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colobobcat66
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  Message Not Read  Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/6/2023 3:10:21 PM 
Is this the week that the offense looks anything like it did last year? I get that Rourke is still recovering from his injury, but this offense is not really helping to win any games so far. We’re very fortunate that the defense is a top 5-10 defense up to now, but eventually our offense is going to have to do better than 15-20 points to win the MAC in my opinion.

So what I’m seeing is Rourke continues to improve based on his last game mostly

We’re not where we should be in running the ball. This is the deepest offensive unit I think and should be averaging over 4 yards per carry.

We’ve had injuries to receivers- wide receivers and tight ends and have have lost our biggest deep threats
from last year- Bostic by graduation and now Jones by injury. The wide receiver group is called our deepest into by some on here.

We’ve been involved with mostly low scoring games and are conservative in our play calling

Deep throws have been almost nonexistent

So I’m just wondering what the board thinks about our offensive woes or do you not care as long as we keep winning?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/6/2023 4:07:12 PM 
I fully expect this game to be a "get right" game for the offense. Kent gives up 176 yards per game on the ground and 221 yards through the air.

If we don't put up at least 150 yards on the ground, I'll officially be concerned that we are just an average offense this year.

A glaring stat I am seeing is that we've only scored 1 rushing TD this year, what's up with that?

IMO Albin's game plan should be getting back to Ohio football and ground and pound. Keep Rourke healthy and just wear Kent down from the first possession.

Looking forward to watching this in person after enjoying Court St for a couple hours prior to kickoff.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/6/2023 4:44:35 PM 
I'm not sure Albin will fully open up the offense if isn't necessary. The only thing that has beaten this team this year is mistakes by the offense. I'm guessing Albin would prefer to get the offensive line on track and grind down the opponent with possession time. Rourke's numbers last year were often due to necessity--score fast or lose. Fordham wouldn't score 10 points against this defense.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/6/2023 5:25:44 PM 
BryanHall wrote:
I'm not sure Albin will fully open up the offense if isn't necessary. The only thing that has beaten this team this year is mistakes by the offense. I'm guessing Albin would prefer to get the offensive line on track and grind down the opponent with possession time. Rourke's numbers last year were often due to necessity--score fast or lose. Fordham wouldn't score 10 points against this defense.


You beat me to it. I think Albin will play it very conservative with lots of UTM stuff, but that we'll make a lot of big gainers with the run game. Why show Miami what our passing game looks like if we don't have to? I think we'll do just enough passing to keep Kent honest, but that we won't open up the full playbook unless the unexpected happens and this game gets close.

Last Edited: 10/6/2023 5:27:34 PM by OhioCatFan

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/6/2023 5:38:17 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
BryanHall wrote:
I'm not sure Albin will fully open up the offense if isn't necessary. The only thing that has beaten this team this year is mistakes by the offense. I'm guessing Albin would prefer to get the offensive line on track and grind down the opponent with possession time. Rourke's numbers last year were often due to necessity--score fast or lose. Fordham wouldn't score 10 points against this defense.


You beat me to it. I think Albin will play it very conservative with lots of UTM stuff, but that we'll make a lot of big gainers with the run game. Why show Miami what our passing game looks like if we don't have to? I think we'll do just enough passing to keep Kent honest, but that we won't open up the full playbook unless the unexpected happens and this game gets close.


I hope you’re right about the ground game, we sure haven’t seen much so far. So you think Kent is that bad on defense- hard to tell much with that schedule they’ve played. We shall see.

I’ll get to see it first hand tomorrow - looking forward to it.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/6/2023 5:44:07 PM 
colobobcat66 wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
BryanHall wrote:
I'm not sure Albin will fully open up the offense if isn't necessary. The only thing that has beaten this team this year is mistakes by the offense. I'm guessing Albin would prefer to get the offensive line on track and grind down the opponent with possession time. Rourke's numbers last year were often due to necessity--score fast or lose. Fordham wouldn't score 10 points against this defense.


You beat me to it. I think Albin will play it very conservative with lots of UTM stuff, but that we'll make a lot of big gainers with the run game. Why show Miami what our passing game looks like if we don't have to? I think we'll do just enough passing to keep Kent honest, but that we won't open up the full playbook unless the unexpected happens and this game gets close.


I hope you’re right about the ground game, we sure haven’t seen much so far. So you think Kent is that bad on defense- hard to tell much with that schedule they’ve played. We shall see.

I’ll get to see it first hand tomorrow - looking forward to it.


Well, here's the points scored against them so far by FBS teams: UCF, 56; Arkansas, 28; Fresno State, 53; and Redchickens, 23. Redchickens probably saving a few tricks for us. No, I'm not impressed with their defense.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/6/2023 8:21:10 PM 

Ohio's offense numbers for 2023 thus far and the 2022 season:

Rushing:
2023- 140 yards/game
2022 - 143 yards/game

Passing:
2023 - 184 yards/game
2022 - 278 yards/game

Total:

2023 - 324 yards/game
2022 - 421 yards/game

Total Plays/Game:

2023 -- 68
2022 -- 68

Our run game doesn't seem as explosive this season -- fewer chunk plays, but we also don't take many loss of yardage plays. We're not hitting many deep passing plays either.

I keep anticipating and waiting for a game where we rack up lots of yards. Hope that starts tomorrow.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/7/2023 6:57:09 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
colobobcat66 wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
BryanHall wrote:
I'm not sure Albin will fully open up the offense if isn't necessary. The only thing that has beaten this team this year is mistakes by the offense. I'm guessing Albin would prefer to get the offensive line on track and grind down the opponent with possession time. Rourke's numbers last year were often due to necessity--score fast or lose. Fordham wouldn't score 10 points against this defense.


You beat me to it. I think Albin will play it very conservative with lots of UTM stuff, but that we'll make a lot of big gainers with the run game. Why show Miami what our passing game looks like if we don't have to? I think we'll do just enough passing to keep Kent honest, but that we won't open up the full playbook unless the unexpected happens and this game gets close.


I hope you’re right about the ground game, we sure haven’t seen much so far. So you think Kent is that bad on defense- hard to tell much with that schedule they’ve played. We shall see.

I’ll get to see it first hand tomorrow - looking forward to it.


Well, here's the points scored against them so far by FBS teams: UCF, 56; Arkansas, 28; Fresno State, 53; and Redchickens, 23. Redchickens probably saving a few tricks for us. No, I'm not impressed with their defense.


Their schedule is ranked in the low 40’s, ours is around 100, I’m just saying you know they’re not good but they’ve been playing a lot better teams than we have, so you have a bad offense against a bad defense so it’s anybody’s guess what could happen.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/7/2023 12:19:08 PM 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OencLhL4UPc

Ohio needs to win, not rack up big yards. They should keep trying to improve, and fine tune things. I'm not concerned in the least about the offense, for all of the reasons others' have given.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/7/2023 4:59:26 PM 
Good 1st half for Rourke, if you take away two wide open receivers dropping perfect passes and one or two wrong routes by young receivers it’s a GREAT half. Hopefully they’re fully in sync by the end of this one, seems to be trending that way.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/14/2023 9:52:12 PM 
I told you so
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/15/2023 7:48:17 AM 
"Good 1st half for Rourke, if you take away two wide open receivers dropping perfect passes and one or two wrong routes by young receivers it’s a GREAT half. Hopefully they’re fully in sync by the end of this one, seems to be trending that way."


What's the opinion then why no 2nd half offense?

Team quit? QB has a flair-up of Attention Deficit? NIU adjusted and OU didn't?

What was that penalty on the offense near the goal line? On the radio sounded like an illegal substitution--would that be on a certain player or a staff member making another change? Could have cost 4 points.

Last Edited: 10/15/2023 7:50:18 AM by MonroeClassmate
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio’s anemic offense
   Posted: 10/16/2023 9:30:45 AM 
colobobcat66 wrote:
Is this the week that the offense looks anything like it did last year? I get that Rourke is still recovering from his injury, but this offense is not really helping to win any games so far. We’re very fortunate that the defense is a top 5-10 defense up to now, but eventually our offense is going to have to do better than 15-20 points to win the MAC in my opinion.

So what I’m seeing is Rourke continues to improve based on his last game mostly

We’re not where we should be in running the ball. This is the deepest offensive unit I think and should be averaging over 4 yards per carry.

We’ve had injuries to receivers- wide receivers and tight ends and have have lost our biggest deep threats
from last year- Bostic by graduation and now Jones by injury. The wide receiver group is called our deepest into by some on here.

We’ve been involved with mostly low scoring games and are conservative in our play calling

Deep throws have been almost nonexistent

So I’m just wondering what the board thinks about our offensive woes or do you not care as long as we keep winning?






We're getting stuffed at the line because our QB - who last year could put 6 on your head at any moment - is not of ANY threat to throw it. WHY?! When they call runs, what percentage is a delayed handoff up the middle? 75%? And I'm being serious here. It has to be more than 50% hb dives. The whole offense is push the pile. It's not score points. It's baffling to watch.

I think you said it - the offense is conservative and boring and for what? For the most part, OU has played with a lead all season. Instead of putting points up they're playing scared, like they cannot wait to get off the field.

They're not even attempting to go for the big play. Everything is a 4 yard out to the TE. A 7 yard slant to Wigs or Cross. Have we had a single trick play this season? I mean, I'm not advocating for a WR to throw a bomb to the QB (We've done it before though) - but end arounds? A little PA? Mix in ANYTHING that opens up some run lanes? Some deep crossing routes? Something, anything to get the defense thinking.

Kurtis has more INT through 5 games than all of 2022. He's too talented to not have the entire playbook opened. He hurt his knee, not his arm. Spread it out.

MonroeClassmate wrote:


What's the opinion then why no 2nd half offense?



Gutless, conservative football.

Last Edited: 10/16/2023 9:32:19 AM by M.D.W.S.T
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