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I believe these are the first O$U games not on an over-the-air or traditional cable network. The times they are a-changing. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/4/2023 6:37:42 PM  Pataskala wrote: Just to show that no one is immune from being relegated to streaming services, the next two O$U games (MD and Purdue) will be shown exclusively on Peacock. I believe these are the first O$U games not on an over-the-air or traditional cable network. The times they are a-changing. I thought there was one O$U game last year that was only on Peacock. I could be wrong about that. Does anyone else remember that? I think the game last year was a non-conference game. This is two conference games. I agree times they are a-changing! The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,156 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/4/2023 10:57:02 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Pataskala wrote: Just to show that no one is immune from being relegated to streaming services, the next two O$U games (MD and Purdue) will be shown exclusively on Peacock. I believe these are the first O$U games not on an over-the-air or traditional cable network. The times they are a-changing. I thought there was one O$U game last year that was only on Peacock. I could be wrong about that. Does anyone else remember that? I think the game last year was a non-conference game. This is two conference games. I agree times they are a-changing! This is the first year of B10's contract with NBC/Peacock, so probably not. Saturday's game was originally scheduled for Fox but was changed at the last minute. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 210 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 8:09:48 AM  Pataskala wrote: Just to show that no one is immune from being relegated to streaming services, the next two O$U games (MD and Purdue) will be shown exclusively on Peacock. I believe these are the first O$U games not on an over-the-air or traditional cable network. The times they are a-changing. You say this like it's a bad thing. "Relegated." Streaming now has a far better reach than traditional cable/satellite which is going the way of the 8 track player. At this stage of the game, the worst place to be is on something like CBS Sports Network, FS2, or ESPNU. Those are just archaic channels that are only services that dinosaurs who can't figure out a Roku. Boomers complaining about streaming sound like folks who thought Detroit was out to kill the horse and buggy industry. Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,166 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 8:21:17 AM  Tymaster wrote: Pataskala wrote: Just to show that no one is immune from being relegated to streaming services, the next two O$U games (MD and Purdue) will be shown exclusively on Peacock. I believe these are the first O$U games not on an over-the-air or traditional cable network. The times they are a-changing. You say this like it's a bad thing. "Relegated." Streaming now has a far better reach than traditional cable/satellite which is going the way of the 8 track player. At this stage of the game, the worst place to be is on something like CBS Sports Network, FS2, or ESPNU. Those are just archaic channels that are only services that dinosaurs who can't figure out a Roku. Boomers complaining about streaming sound like folks who thought Detroit was out to kill the horse and buggy industry. Streaming, as the alternative to cable/satellite, might have a far better reach. But does Peacock? YouTubeTV is my live television provider. It has CBSSN, ESPNU, and FS2. Is it not also streaming? Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 210 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 9:11:19 AM  YouTube tv has about 6 million subscribers. Peacock has about 24 million. But that's not really the point. Subscribing to streaming services like YouTube TV or Hulu Live that mimic cable is never going to be huge. People don't want cable channels. That's just not the future. There won't be a TNT or TBS, but the sports they had will be on the MAX app. There won't be ESPN 2 or ESPNU, they'll be the ESPN app. That is where Peacock is. Over-the-air channels will exist. The FCC won't let them die, and that's fine, i get them. They're free. Why not? The idea of paying for cable is over. Loses thousands of people per day. Grandpas and FOX News watchers are the only ones left. Dumb jocks still subscribe because there are 7 zillion sports channels but once ESPN goes standalone like Bally+, cable will die. Putting sports on an app like Peacock or Parammount + exclusively is "the new cable." Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,166 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 10:02:49 AM  Tymaster wrote: YouTube tv has about 6 million subscribers. Peacock has about 24 million. But that's not really the point. Subscribing to streaming services like YouTube TV or Hulu Live that mimic cable is never going to be huge. People don't want cable channels. That's just not the future. There won't be a TNT or TBS, but the sports they had will be on the MAX app. There won't be ESPN 2 or ESPNU, they'll be the ESPN app. That is where Peacock is. Over-the-air channels will exist. The FCC won't let them die, and that's fine, i get them. They're free. Why not? The idea of paying for cable is over. Loses thousands of people per day. Grandpas and FOX News watchers are the only ones left. Dumb jocks still subscribe because there are 7 zillion sports channels but once ESPN goes standalone like Bally+, cable will die. Putting sports on an app like Peacock or Parammount + exclusively is "the new cable." How many of those Peacock subscribers ALSO have a live television provider, whether cable, satellite, or streaming? ESPN+ has about 25 million subscribers. You wouldn't make the argument that OSU games moving from a channel easily found on a live TV platform to exclusively ESPN+ isn't relegation. Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 5,058 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 10:06:56 AM  Tymaster wrote: The idea of paying for cable is over. Loses thousands of people per day. Grandpas and FOX News watchers are the only ones left. This really hit home. I'm not a grandpa (yet) and I definitely do not watch FOX News. However, I still haven't cut the cord yet - although I've been thinking about doing so for years. Perhaps Tymaster will be the one who motivates me to finally taking that leap. Back to Top Victory General User Member Since: 3/10/2012 Post Count: 1,903 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 10:10:52 AM  shabamon wrote: Tymaster wrote: Pataskala wrote: Just to show that no one is immune from being relegated to streaming services, the next two O$U games (MD and Purdue) will be shown exclusively on Peacock. I believe these are the first O$U games not on an over-the-air or traditional cable network. The times they are a-changing. You say this like it's a bad thing. "Relegated." Streaming now has a far better reach than traditional cable/satellite which is going the way of the 8 track player. At this stage of the game, the worst place to be is on something like CBS Sports Network, FS2, or ESPNU. Those are just archaic channels that are only services that dinosaurs who can't figure out a Roku. Boomers complaining about streaming sound like folks who thought Detroit was out to kill the horse and buggy industry. Streaming, as the alternative to cable/satellite, might have a far better reach. But does Peacock? YouTubeTV is my live television provider. It has CBSSN, ESPNU, and FS2. Is it not also streaming? You can stream those too. Streaming became popular to avoid bundling but if you are an OSU fan you are probably going to pay for Peacock this month to watch one thing and then also get a million things you'd never watch. This would be great if every content provider made their content available at a free market cost. But every Streaming service is going to pay through the nose for content for one exclusive rights monopoly and then bundle that with a bunch of crap and we'll end up even worse than before. Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,166 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 10:37:07 AM  Victory wrote: shabamon wrote: Tymaster wrote: Pataskala wrote: Just to show that no one is immune from being relegated to streaming services, the next two O$U games (MD and Purdue) will be shown exclusively on Peacock. I believe these are the first O$U games not on an over-the-air or traditional cable network. The times they are a-changing. You say this like it's a bad thing. "Relegated." Streaming now has a far better reach than traditional cable/satellite which is going the way of the 8 track player. At this stage of the game, the worst place to be is on something like CBS Sports Network, FS2, or ESPNU. Those are just archaic channels that are only services that dinosaurs who can't figure out a Roku. Boomers complaining about streaming sound like folks who thought Detroit was out to kill the horse and buggy industry. Streaming, as the alternative to cable/satellite, might have a far better reach. But does Peacock? YouTubeTV is my live television provider. It has CBSSN, ESPNU, and FS2. Is it not also streaming? You can stream those too. Streaming became popular to avoid bundling but if you are an OSU fan you are probably going to pay for Peacock this month to watch one thing and then also get a million things you'd never watch. This would be great if every content provider made their content available at a free market cost. But every Streaming service is going to pay through the nose for content for one exclusive rights monopoly and then bundle that with a bunch of crap and we'll end up even worse than before. I currently have two streaming services that can bring me live ESPNU: YouTubeTV and the ESPN app. And I get it on the ESPN app by virtue of having YouTubeTV. Where else might you be talking about? I'll admit, the primary reason I have YouTubeTV is for all the sports channels. I don't watch television news and any fiction programming I'm fine with it being on-demand. I do occasionally channel surf for movies, like if "Terminator" is on TNT and I have a few minutes, I'll put that on but probably wouldn't necessarily go watch the full movie on demand. Is that old people behavior? You said it, we'll be worse off. I don't want to pay separately for Netflix and Disney+ and Peacock and Paramount+ and ESPN+ and Dildo+ and MAX and you get the idea, just so I can be covered for all the stuff I actually want. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 10:39:00 AM  Stop with this ageism. I'm a grandpa and I cut the cord about a month ago. I've got Hulu now. I also watch FNC, as well as read the NYT and WSJ. Some of you guys are really into stereotypes. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Kevin Finnegan General User Member Since: 2/4/2005 Location: Rockton, IL Post Count: 1,093 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 10:51:22 AM  I believe Peacock is free. You can pay extra for additional content or less ads, but the OSU games likely won't cause anyone to have to subscribe (at a cost, just an email log-in) to watch. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,769 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 10:54:28 AM  bobcatsquared wrote: Tymaster wrote: The idea of paying for cable is over. Loses thousands of people per day. Grandpas and FOX News watchers are the only ones left. This really hit home. I'm not a grandpa (yet) and I definitely do not watch FOX News. However, I still haven't cut the cord yet - although I've been thinking about doing so for years. Perhaps Tymaster will be the one who motivates me to finally taking that leap. I'll call you later on your landline. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,723 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 10:57:23 AM  I still have DirecTV, just turned 42. Streamers are like apple phone users, once they find out you aren't one of them they belittle you and are amazed you exist. I don't like streaming, internet is often unreliable the agony of the buffering sign is infuriating. We've got a bazillion other devices connected to the internet...phones, doorbells, computers, garage doors, on and on...I don't see the need for society to rush to streaming and take away more bandwidth when we have the infrastructure of dishes and cable. I am a huge sports on DVR guy, I love starting the game about 30-60 minutes in and fast forwarding thru commercials. It doesn't seem like streamers end up saving any money when you add up the 6 different services they subscribe to coble something together that looks like a cable package. I don't like figuring out which thing is on what service. The streaming services yank things back and forth being available or not. I don't like the concept of "binging" and the libraries are too big for their own good. I'm on my computer and phone plenty with all its apps and logins and switching around, etc...I just want to flip my TV on with my remote. If that makes me a Fox News watching Grandpa so be it. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 11:27:37 AM  Andrew, maybe it's just the strange way my mind works, but I actually find it much easier to find the program I want, or the game I want to watch, on Hulu with the Roku box than I ever did on Spectrum Cable. I'll admit that I have a hard time memorizing numbers, so I often could not remember which channel was associated with which four digit number. Spectrum did have a "favorites" feature, but it never worked reliably. With Hulu you just put your favorites in "My Stuff." But if you don't do that, it's still easy to find with a simple search. Also, you can record any show you want. I can record a show while sitting downstairs, and later watch it on my bedroom TV, by just going to "My Stuff." In short, this old fart is much happier with Hulu than I ever was with Spectrum Cable, and I'm paying about $100 total less each month! The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 210 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 11:47:39 AM  shabamon wrote: Tymaster wrote: YouTube tv has about 6 million subscribers. Peacock has about 24 million. But that's not really the point. Subscribing to streaming services like YouTube TV or Hulu Live that mimic cable is never going to be huge. People don't want cable channels. That's just not the future. There won't be a TNT or TBS, but the sports they had will be on the MAX app. There won't be ESPN 2 or ESPNU, they'll be the ESPN app. That is where Peacock is. Over-the-air channels will exist. The FCC won't let them die, and that's fine, i get them. They're free. Why not? The idea of paying for cable is over. Loses thousands of people per day. Grandpas and FOX News watchers are the only ones left. Dumb jocks still subscribe because there are 7 zillion sports channels but once ESPN goes standalone like Bally+, cable will die. Putting sports on an app like Peacock or Parammount + exclusively is "the new cable." How many of those Peacock subscribers ALSO have a live television provider, whether cable, satellite, or streaming? ESPN+ has about 25 million subscribers. You wouldn't make the argument that OSU games moving from a channel easily found on a live TV platform to exclusively ESPN+ isn't relegation. Fair enough, but that's because of the way ESPN and ESPN+ are tiered.ESPN is still getting $20+ of EVERYONE's monthly cable bill so they still want to put their premier stuff on that platform. You'll notice more and more of their content is going exclusively over-the-air on ABC or exclusively streaming on ESPN+. Trust me, there will NOT be a cable/satellite ESPN channel within10 years as you know it. It's just not a sustainable business model. I don't mean to belittle anyone or be ageist. I'm 46 myself, lol. I just find it amusing that this board gets upset when a game or bowl isn't on a linear channel and is "online." Streaming is no longer for fringe broadcasts.Most people under the age of 40 have not had &/or have no desire to subscribe to a cable package or satellite. Some will stream cable/satellite alternatives, but even that is a fraction of what cable/satellite was in the early 2000s. It just doesn't make sense to pay $200 for a package with 80% channels I'll never tune into. The idea of flipping through channels to find something you want to watch is right up there with writing your friend a postcard to anyone born past 1980. Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 210 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 11:51:28 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: Andrew, maybe it's just the strange way my mind works, but I actually find it much easier to find the program I want, or the game I want to watch, on Hulu with the Roku box than I ever did on Spectrum Cable. I'll admit that I have a hard time memorizing numbers, so I often could not remember which channel was associated with which four digit number. Spectrum did have a "favorites" feature, but it never worked reliably. With Hulu you just put your favorites in "My Stuff." But if you don't do that, it's still easy to find with a simple search. Also, you can record any show you want. I can record a show while sitting downstairs, and later watch it on my bedroom TV, by just going to "My Stuff." In short, this old fart is much happier with Hulu than I ever was with Spectrum Cable, and I'm paying about $100 total less each month! Yes. I don't miss cable one bit. We have an antenna that feeds us 26 stations out of Columbus, including the "Big 6" Networks. That's more than enough "channels." We stream what we want, and don't pay over $50 per month for the most part. On occasion - I'll have to sign up for a trial of a service to watch a game or two but generally what is on broadcast tv or radio is fine for me. With two kids and a spouse and a church and a job i don't really have that much time to sit in front of the tv and watch games. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,156 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 12:25:22 PM  Tymaster wrote: Pataskala wrote: Just to show that no one is immune from being relegated to streaming services, the next two O$U games (MD and Purdue) will be shown exclusively on Peacock. I believe these are the first O$U games not on an over-the-air or traditional cable network. The times they are a-changing. You say this like it's a bad thing. "Relegated." Streaming now has a far better reach than traditional cable/satellite which is going the way of the 8 track player. At this stage of the game, the worst place to be is on something like CBS Sports Network, FS2, or ESPNU. Those are just archaic channels that are only services that dinosaurs who can't figure out a Roku. Boomers complaining about streaming sound like folks who thought Detroit was out to kill the horse and buggy industry. I used the term "relegated" because Peacock is not available to everyone in Ohio. There are thousands in rural Ohio who don't have access to the internet or whose internet is too expensive or has speeds that are inadequate for streaming. That's unlike over-the-air TV, which is still available to everyone through an antenna, or even satellite, which is ubiquitous through a dish. I think we often take for granted that everyone has access to affordable high-speed internet. But that's not the case. I dropped DirecTV about a year ago because they kept raising prices and moving channels to more expensive tiers. I now stream through YouTube TV because I can get the channels I want in one place, except for ESPN+, which I also stream. But I'm fortunate to live in an area that has high-speed internet access at a decent price (although it went up $5 a month last month). Last Edited: 10/5/2023 12:26:51 PM by Pataskala We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 210 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 12:38:09 PM  Pataskala wrote: Tymaster wrote: Pataskala wrote: Just to show that no one is immune from being relegated to streaming services, the next two O$U games (MD and Purdue) will be shown exclusively on Peacock. I believe these are the first O$U games not on an over-the-air or traditional cable network. The times they are a-changing. You say this like it's a bad thing. "Relegated." Streaming now has a far better reach than traditional cable/satellite which is going the way of the 8 track player. At this stage of the game, the worst place to be is on something like CBS Sports Network, FS2, or ESPNU. Those are just archaic channels that are only services that dinosaurs who can't figure out a Roku. Boomers complaining about streaming sound like folks who thought Detroit was out to kill the horse and buggy industry. I used the term "relegated" because Peacock is not available to everyone in Ohio. There are thousands in rural Ohio who don't have access to the internet or whose internet is too expensive or has speeds that are inadequate for streaming. That's unlike over-the-air TV, which is still available to everyone through an antenna, or even satellite, which is ubiquitous through a dish. I think we often take for granted that everyone has access to affordable high-speed internet. But that's not the case. I dropped DirecTV about a year ago because they kept raising prices and moving channels to more expensive tiers. I now stream through YouTube TV because I can get the channels I want in one place, except for ESPN+, which I also stream. But I'm fortunate to live in an area that has high-speed internet access at a decent price (although it went up $5 a month last month). There are still about 300,000 households in Ohio that can't get high-speed internet. True. This issue is supposed to be getting resolved. At this point, internet is pretty much an essential utility. I'd also like to point out that Peacock's strategy for which games are on their streamer and which games are on NBC is whack and really, the B1G screwed their fans by signing on with so many networks that can force their diehards to have to have a) a video service (cable or satellite) AND b) streaming apps. Really, we're just add a weird inflection point where pay subscription services still exist and have lots of buying power while the nascient streamers are flexing their muscle. If you think football is bad, wait until basketball. Back to Top Kinggeorge4 General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Guysville, OH Post Count: 970 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 12:49:11 PM  So glad to see the annual Stream versus Cable debate that breaks down to name calling. Surprised we made it this far. GO BOBCATS GEORGE Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,949 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 1:43:48 PM  Tymaster wrote: Pataskala wrote: Tymaster wrote: Pataskala wrote: Just to show that no one is immune from being relegated to streaming services, the next two O$U games (MD and Purdue) will be shown exclusively on Peacock. I believe these are the first O$U games not on an over-the-air or traditional cable network. The times they are a-changing. You say this like it's a bad thing. "Relegated." Streaming now has a far better reach than traditional cable/satellite which is going the way of the 8 track player. At this stage of the game, the worst place to be is on something like CBS Sports Network, FS2, or ESPNU. Those are just archaic channels that are only services that dinosaurs who can't figure out a Roku. Boomers complaining about streaming sound like folks who thought Detroit was out to kill the horse and buggy industry. I used the term "relegated" because Peacock is not available to everyone in Ohio. There are thousands in rural Ohio who don't have access to the internet or whose internet is too expensive or has speeds that are inadequate for streaming. That's unlike over-the-air TV, which is still available to everyone through an antenna, or even satellite, which is ubiquitous through a dish. I think we often take for granted that everyone has access to affordable high-speed internet. But that's not the case. I dropped DirecTV about a year ago because they kept raising prices and moving channels to more expensive tiers. I now stream through YouTube TV because I can get the channels I want in one place, except for ESPN+, which I also stream. But I'm fortunate to live in an area that has high-speed internet access at a decent price (although it went up $5 a month last month). There are still about 300,000 households in Ohio that can't get high-speed internet. True. This issue is supposed to be getting resolved. Who is resolving this? It's not like the cable companies are just gonna run random wiring everywhere just in case someone might want to sign up for their internet. I have family that lives in the middle of bumf*ck nowhere in Columbiana County and the only way they'd be able to get high speed internet is through satellite. They're at least 5 miles from the nearest cable subscriber, probably more. Nobody is running wiring out that far unless it's getting paid for, usually by the customer as a special fee. Last Edited: 10/5/2023 1:44:29 PM by GoCats105 Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,523 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 1:52:52 PM  Kevin Finnegan wrote: I believe Peacock is free. You can pay extra for additional content or less ads, but the OSU games likely won't cause anyone to have to subscribe (at a cost, just an email log-in) to watch. I believe Peacock no longer offers a free tier for new customers. Don't know how long they'll keep offering the free tier to exiting customers that have it. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,523 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 2:28:53 PM  SBH wrote: I'll call you later on your landline. I teach a class on Land Surveying at F.D.U. One of the things I tell my students is not to get to hung up on the latest and greatest technology. At times we still have to use the North Star to establish "true North". I still have a landline. O.K. boomer, I know. After Hurricane Sandy, the whole area where I live and work didn't have power for over 2 weeks. Virtually none of the cell towers around here have back up generators. So, after less then 24 hours, their back up batteries died, and they were down, till power came back. Same with FIOS. Unless you had an external battery back up in your house, after 8 hours FIOS died. The external Battery could only keep you phone working. No other FIOS services. And it needs to have its 12 "D" batteries replaced every 24 hours. My old copper landline worked fine the whole time. After Sandy ,Verizon forced me to get FIOS. So I got the external battery pack, and keep a bunch of "D" batteries, just in case. After Sandy the only way to get internet of any kind was with "dial up". I do work with local OEM. Every computer I have can be hooked up to an external dial up modem. Still have them available in my home and office. After Sandy, one of the O.E.M. guys I work with made a joke about my "dial up" being so slow. I asked how his high speed connection was working. He said "good point". Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 210 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 2:57:46 PM  GoCats105 wrote: Tymaster wrote: Pataskala wrote: Tymaster wrote: Pataskala wrote: Just to show that no one is immune from being relegated to streaming services, the next two O$U games (MD and Purdue) will be shown exclusively on Peacock. I believe these are the first O$U games not on an over-the-air or traditional cable network. The times they are a-changing. You say this like it's a bad thing. "Relegated." Streaming now has a far better reach than traditional cable/satellite which is going the way of the 8 track player. At this stage of the game, the worst place to be is on something like CBS Sports Network, FS2, or ESPNU. Those are just archaic channels that are only services that dinosaurs who can't figure out a Roku. Boomers complaining about streaming sound like folks who thought Detroit was out to kill the horse and buggy industry. I used the term "relegated" because Peacock is not available to everyone in Ohio. There are thousands in rural Ohio who don't have access to the internet or whose internet is too expensive or has speeds that are inadequate for streaming. That's unlike over-the-air TV, which is still available to everyone through an antenna, or even satellite, which is ubiquitous through a dish. I think we often take for granted that everyone has access to affordable high-speed internet. But that's not the case. I dropped DirecTV about a year ago because they kept raising prices and moving channels to more expensive tiers. I now stream through YouTube TV because I can get the channels I want in one place, except for ESPN+, which I also stream. But I'm fortunate to live in an area that has high-speed internet access at a decent price (although it went up $5 a month last month). There are still about 300,000 households in Ohio that can't get high-speed internet. True. This issue is supposed to be getting resolved. Who is resolving this? It's not like the cable companies are just gonna run random wiring everywhere just in case someone might want to sign up for their internet. I have family that lives in the middle of bumf*ck nowhere in Columbiana County and the only way they'd be able to get high speed internet is through satellite. They're at least 5 miles from the nearest cable subscriber, probably more. Nobody is running wiring out that far unless it's getting paid for, usually by the customer as a special fee. https://innovateohio.gov/priorities/resources/broadband/s... Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 210 Status: Offline     RE: OT: O$U games exclusively on Peacock    Posted: 10/5/2023 2:58:44 PM  rpbobcat wrote: SBH wrote: I'll call you later on your landline. I teach a class on Land Surveying at F.D.U. One of the things I tell my students is not to get to hung up on the latest and greatest technology. At times we still have to use the North Star to establish "true North". I still have a landline. O.K. boomer, I know. After Hurricane Sandy, the whole area where I live and work didn't have power for over 2 weeks. Virtually none of the cell towers around here have back up generators. So, after less then 24 hours, their back up batteries died, and they were down, till power came back. Same with FIOS. Unless you had an external battery back up in your house, after 8 hours FIOS died. The external Battery could only keep you phone working. No other FIOS services. And it needs to have its 12 "D" batteries replaced every 24 hours. My old copper landline worked fine the whole time. After Sandy ,Verizon forced me to get FIOS. So I got the external battery pack, and keep a bunch of "D" batteries, just in case. After Sandy the only way to get internet of any kind was with "dial up". I do work with local OEM. Every computer I have can be hooked up to an external dial up modem. Still have them available in my home and office. After Sandy, one of the O.E.M. guys I work with made a joke about my "dial up" being so slow. I asked how his high speed connection was working. He said "good point". That’s the argument for keeping AM radio in vehicles. While I agree with keeping AM tuners, that doesn’t mean there isn’t much better forms of media in 23. 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