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First I'd heard that Wadley may redshirt, Tony is currently "slowed" by an ankle injury, Dartis is "noticeably bigger," Taylor's "body change...is as dramatic as any on the roster" but is dealing with a hand/thumb injury, Harley's back issue is still present, Kaminski credits Crabtree with playing a big part in turning around several things in his life, Carter will push Kaminski and Taylor for minutes. Arkley's depth chart: Simmons, Campbell, Kaminski, Dartis, Block, Laster, Taylor, Carter, Culver, Harley, Dozier Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,310 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/2/2016 10:13:34 AM  speaking of the mess... what happened to subscription via survey? no content available without a subscription now apparently. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/2/2016 10:29:04 AM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: speaking of the mess... what happened to subscription via survey? no content available without a subscription now apparently. Which is fine, but the cost of online subscription seems like a lot. Back to Top UpSan Bobcat General User Member Since: 8/30/2005 Location: Upper Sandusky, OH Post Count: 3,793 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/2/2016 10:36:11 AM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: speaking of the mess... what happened to subscription via survey? no content available without a subscription now apparently. An ad on the side of the website says starting Nov. 1, a subscription is required. Apparently, there wasn't enough money to be made via the survey questions. $8.95 for 28 days, or $6.95 if you allow auto renewal. That's about $35 for the season. Back to Top Recovering Journalist General User Member Since: 8/17/2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Post Count: 1,839 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/2/2016 3:15:38 PM  OU_Country wrote: Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: speaking of the mess... what happened to subscription via survey? no content available without a subscription now apparently. Which is fine, but the cost of online subscription seems like a lot. The only way to meaningful way to show that you value the content is with money. Newspapers are on an absolute shoestring budget already and we all take content for granted. Arkley is a professional who does a great job. He needs to eat too. We're lucky to have him covering teams we care about, but he can't do it for free. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/2/2016 3:31:33 PM  Recovering Journalist wrote: OU_Country wrote: Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: speaking of the mess... what happened to subscription via survey? no content available without a subscription now apparently. Which is fine, but the cost of online subscription seems like a lot. The only way to meaningful way to show that you value the content is with money. Newspapers are on an absolute shoestring budget already and we all take content for granted. Arkley is a professional who does a great job. He needs to eat too. We're lucky to have him covering teams we care about, but he can't do it for free. You're right, I agree. I wasn't suggesting it should be free. I initially saw the cost for print and online in combination and thought it was expensive. I went back and looked. Seven bucks for a month isn't bad at all. I'm not wild about the auto renew, and would find a 6-month subscription in one shot to be more appealing. Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,148 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/2/2016 9:55:44 PM  I would only subscribe to the Messenger to read Arkley's pieces, so... decisions. I like the idea of redshirting Wadly. He could be far more valuable next year than this year. I've always felt he really should have redshirted his freshman year. Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,401 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/2/2016 10:56:51 PM  Market smart Offer discount for Sports news only access. 50% the price - for 20% (or less) of the product. Most valuable outside Athens product - and their best writer gets Paid RS Bobcat Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/3/2016 9:53:37 AM  shabamon wrote: I would only subscribe to the Messenger to read Arkley's pieces, so... decisions. I like the idea of redshirting Wadly. He could be far more valuable next year than this year. I've always felt he really should have redshirted his freshman year. Not that I want him to go, but this creates an additional option (I think): Wadley red-shirts, and transfers if he wants, and opens a scholarship. It's possible given that he considered it this year, right? Back to Top OUBobcat13 General User Member Since: 12/7/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 285 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/3/2016 12:17:28 PM  OU_Country wrote: shabamon wrote: I would only subscribe to the Messenger to read Arkley's pieces, so... decisions. I like the idea of redshirting Wadly. He could be far more valuable next year than this year. I've always felt he really should have redshirted his freshman year. Not that I want him to go, but this creates an additional option (I think): Wadley red-shirts, and transfers if he wants, and opens a scholarship. It's possible given that he considered it this year, right? If Wadley were to redshirt, wouldn't that create problems with scholarships for next year. We would be losing only 2 seniors, but have 3 commits. No? Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/3/2016 1:50:10 PM  Recovering Journalist wrote: The only way to meaningful way to show that you value the content is with money. Newspapers are on an absolute shoestring budget already and we all take content for granted. Arkley is a professional who does a great job. He needs to eat too. We're lucky to have him covering teams we care about, but he can't do it for free. I 100% agree about Arkley but the price is just too high. They are asking us to pay essentially the same amount as one of the larger newspapers who have considerably more content. But I'm sure someone smarter than me has set that price. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,930 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/3/2016 4:15:32 PM  OUBobcat13 wrote: OU_Country wrote: shabamon wrote: I would only subscribe to the Messenger to read Arkley's pieces, so... decisions. I like the idea of redshirting Wadly. He could be far more valuable next year than this year. I've always felt he really should have redshirted his freshman year. Not that I want him to go, but this creates an additional option (I think): Wadley red-shirts, and transfers if he wants, and opens a scholarship. It's possible given that he considered it this year, right? If Wadley were to redshirt, wouldn't that create problems with scholarships for next year. We would be losing only 2 seniors, but have 3 commits. No? That's correct. Mompremier, Campbell and Kaminski out and Gareri, Butler and BVP in. I don't know how they think this is going to work. Interesting that Khari is still having back issues. I feel bad for him. Back to Top FearLeon General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 4,146 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/3/2016 7:46:44 PM  GoCats105 wrote: OUBobcat13 wrote: OU_Country wrote: shabamon wrote: I would only subscribe to the Messenger to read Arkley's pieces, so... decisions. I like the idea of redshirting Wadly. He could be far more valuable next year than this year. I've always felt he really should have redshirted his freshman year. Not that I want him to go, but this creates an additional option (I think): Wadley red-shirts, and transfers if he wants, and opens a scholarship. It's possible given that he considered it this year, right? If Wadley were to redshirt, wouldn't that create problems with scholarships for next year. We would be losing only 2 seniors, but have 3 commits. No? That's correct. Mompremier, Campbell and Kaminski out and Gareri, Butler and BVP in. I don't know how they think this is going to work. Interesting that Khari is still having back issues. I feel bad for him. Am I the only one who feels like Khari has been a Bobcat for 11 years? #BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT Back to Top Recovering Journalist General User Member Since: 8/17/2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Post Count: 1,839 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/4/2016 8:32:19 AM  OUVan wrote: Recovering Journalist wrote: The only way to meaningful way to show that you value the content is with money. Newspapers are on an absolute shoestring budget already and we all take content for granted. Arkley is a professional who does a great job. He needs to eat too. We're lucky to have him covering teams we care about, but he can't do it for free. I 100% agree about Arkley but the price is just too high. They are asking us to pay essentially the same amount as one of the larger newspapers who have considerably more content. But I'm sure someone smarter than me has set that price. It's totally understandable that someone who doesn't live in SE Ohio wouldn't want to drop upwards of $100/year for news from Athens County. This is the kind of conundrum that few publications have solved -- people are consuming more news than ever and paying less for it than ever. Something has to give, and so far what's giving is the jobs and salaries of the professionals researching, writing and editing the news. Craigslist killed classifieds, which once fueled most revenue at papers. Print ads, flyers and coupons, another key source of funds, are rapidly fading into history. We want news, we want it professionally done, but it's human nature to pay as little as possible for it. Here are two stories that show just how dire things are: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120916/14454920395/ne... http://www.journalism.org/2016/06/15/newspapers-fact-sheet / Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/4/2016 11:42:58 AM  OUVan wrote: Recovering Journalist wrote: The only way to meaningful way to show that you value the content is with money. Newspapers are on an absolute shoestring budget already and we all take content for granted. Arkley is a professional who does a great job. He needs to eat too. We're lucky to have him covering teams we care about, but he can't do it for free. I 100% agree about Arkley but the price is just too high. They are asking us to pay essentially the same amount as one of the larger newspapers who have considerably more content. But I'm sure someone smarter than me has set that price. I'll probably end up paying for the online subscription. Jason does good work that's worth it to me. Back to Top Bobcat1998 General User Member Since: 11/7/2012 Post Count: 2,238 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/4/2016 1:59:34 PM  OUBobcat13 wrote: OU_Country wrote: shabamon wrote: I would only subscribe to the Messenger to read Arkley's pieces, so... decisions. I like the idea of redshirting Wadly. He could be far more valuable next year than this year. I've always felt he really should have redshirted his freshman year. Not that I want him to go, but this creates an additional option (I think): Wadley red-shirts, and transfers if he wants, and opens a scholarship. It's possible given that he considered it this year, right? If Wadley were to redshirt, wouldn't that create problems with scholarships for next year. We would be losing only 2 seniors, but have 3 commits. No? Plus let's be realistic. Wadley has had his chance and while he has had health issues, he does not fit into Saul's style. He's not a back to the basket guy. He doesn't shoot free throws or 3's. At least with Tone you get outside shooting and post play and you're going to see that with DT this year too. I see him hitting more 3's. Let's just enjoy Wadley's smile for another year and bid him sweet adieu with his free degree from the best college in the land. Back to Top FearLeon General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 4,146 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/4/2016 10:39:09 PM  Bobcat1998 wrote: OUBobcat13 wrote: OU_Country wrote: shabamon wrote: I would only subscribe to the Messenger to read Arkley's pieces, so... decisions. I like the idea of redshirting Wadly. He could be far more valuable next year than this year. I've always felt he really should have redshirted his freshman year. Not that I want him to go, but this creates an additional option (I think): Wadley red-shirts, and transfers if he wants, and opens a scholarship. It's possible given that he considered it this year, right? If Wadley were to redshirt, wouldn't that create problems with scholarships for next year. We would be losing only 2 seniors, but have 3 commits. No? Plus let's be realistic. Wadley has had his chance and while he has had health issues, he does not fit into Saul's style. He's not a back to the basket guy. He doesn't shoot free throws or 3's. At least with Tone you get outside shooting and post play and you're going to see that with DT this year too. I see him hitting more 3's. Let's just enjoy Wadley's smile for another year and bid him sweet adieu with his free degree from the best college in the land. What he said^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ #BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,401 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/4/2016 11:16:08 PM  FearLeon wrote: Bobcat1998 wrote: OUBobcat13 wrote: OU_Country wrote: shabamon wrote: I would only subscribe to the Messenger to read Arkley's pieces, so... decisions. I like the idea of redshirting Wadly. He could be far more valuable next year than this year. I've always felt he really should have redshirted his freshman year. Not that I want him to go, but this creates an additional option (I think): Wadley red-shirts, and transfers if he wants, and opens a scholarship. It's possible given that he considered it this year, right? If Wadley were to redshirt, wouldn't that create problems with scholarships for next year. We would be losing only 2 seniors, but have 3 commits. No? Plus let's be realistic. Wadley has had his chance and while he has had health issues, he does not fit into Saul's style. He's not a back to the basket guy. He doesn't shoot free throws or 3's. At least with Tone you get outside shooting and post play and you're going to see that with DT this year too. I see him hitting more 3's. Let's just enjoy Wadley's smile for another year and bid him sweet adieu with his free degree from the best college in the land. What he said^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ A Here, Here from me also. He's good for some awesome swats here and there through the year also.... RS Bobcat Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,148 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/5/2016 2:20:37 PM  Some interesting tweets from Arkley have come in the last few minutes about the roster situation. They are planning on redshirting Wadly and he will likely do a grad student transfer to another school after this year. Jason also has talked to Jaaron about where he'll be next year and Jaaron says he'll be at Ohio. Take it for what it's worth in November. Back to Top Bobcat1998 General User Member Since: 11/7/2012 Post Count: 2,238 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/6/2016 12:13:53 PM  shabamon wrote: Some interesting tweets from Arkley have come in the last few minutes about the roster situation. They are planning on redshirting Wadly and he will likely do a grad student transfer to another school after this year. Jason also has talked to Jaaron about where he'll be next year and Jaaron says he'll be at Ohio. Take it for what it's worth in November. And lets give Saul a lot of credit for welcoming him back and giving him this chance to graduate for free and play a year at a MEAC or Metro Athletic or WAC or some other lower D1 conference. Many guys like Coach Cal or Jim Boeheim would have said Sayonara and taken the extra scholly. This worked for everyone. And I am sure Wads positivity will go a long way this year. Back to Top bigtillyoopsupsideurhead General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 1,925 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/6/2016 1:07:56 PM  Bobcat1998 wrote: shabamon wrote: Some interesting tweets from Arkley have come in the last few minutes about the roster situation. They are planning on redshirting Wadly and he will likely do a grad student transfer to another school after this year. Jason also has talked to Jaaron about where he'll be next year and Jaaron says he'll be at Ohio. Take it for what it's worth in November. And lets give Saul a lot of credit for welcoming him back and giving him this chance to graduate for free and play a year at a MEAC or Metro Athletic or WAC or some other lower D1 conference. Many guys like Coach Cal or Jim Boeheim would have said Sayonara and taken the extra scholly. This worked for everyone. And I am sure Wads positivity will go a long way this year. Very happy that Saul let Wadly stay, but this leaves us with 11 scholarship players before the season has even started. If we get banged up as the season goes on we could be in trouble. I wonder if any of our four walk-ons will see significant minutes at times? Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 2,993 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/6/2016 4:06:28 PM  I'm not worried about 11 players. Most teams do not go that deep anyway. Right now my only worry is PG. The one we have is awesome. But, there's just one. Not good. Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,706 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/6/2016 4:20:51 PM  From what I have seen of Dartis handles so far he is the back up. Much improved skills showing he REALLY worked hard on this since last season to become a reliable back up never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top perimeterpost General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 3,165 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/6/2016 5:42:04 PM  bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote: Bobcat1998 wrote: shabamon wrote: Some interesting tweets from Arkley have come in the last few minutes about the roster situation. They are planning on redshirting Wadly and he will likely do a grad student transfer to another school after this year. Jason also has talked to Jaaron about where he'll be next year and Jaaron says he'll be at Ohio. Take it for what it's worth in November. And lets give Saul a lot of credit for welcoming him back and giving him this chance to graduate for free and play a year at a MEAC or Metro Athletic or WAC or some other lower D1 conference. Many guys like Coach Cal or Jim Boeheim would have said Sayonara and taken the extra scholly. This worked for everyone. And I am sure Wads positivity will go a long way this year. Very happy that Saul let Wadly stay, but this leaves us with 11 scholarship players before the season has even started. If we get banged up as the season goes on we could be in trouble. I wonder if any of our four walk-ons will see significant minutes at times? I wouldn't give Saul too much credit for keeping Wadley. From what I've read it looks like it was the players who made a hard push to talk Wadley into staying, Saul was just smart enough to see that it wasn't worth disrupting the team's chemistry by pushing him out. Plus, I'm guessing there was no 5th yr transfer on the table to give his scholarship to this year. Easy choice. MY STATE. MY TEAM. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,555 Status: Offline     RE: Messenger Roster Article    Posted: 11/7/2016 12:28:38 PM  Arkley's quality and the Messenger's lack of understanding in their customer demographics with a related pricing structure to maximize revenue seem to be two distinct issues. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 25  of 26 Posts Jump to Page:   1 | 2    Next > View Other 'Ohio Basketball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 134 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 134 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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