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Topic: Outplaying recruiting rankings

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GoCats105
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Outplaying recruiting rankings

Posted: 10/3/2014 4:22:58 PM

Deadspin has an interesting chart regarding which teams outplay their recruiting rankings better than others. Not sure I agree with where Ohio is placed on the chart, but its a pretty simple chart based on performance on the field versus recruiting rankings.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/chart-which-ncaa-football-...

Last Edited: 10/3/2014 4:24:03 PM by GoCats105

L.C.
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RE: Outplaying recruiting rankings

Posted: 10/3/2014 5:04:21 PM

GoCats105 wrote:

If his link didn't work, try http://tinyurl.com/pjj5knb

That's an interesting chart. My only problem with it is that the Rivals rating doesn't have a lot of accuracy below the top 50-60 teams because they spend very little effort rating the players below the P5 level. The other thing that's interesting to think about is that most of us feel that the last two years, the teams did not accomplish as much as we had hoped for them. Had they finished better the last couple years, Ohio would be in the same place on the horizontal axis (recruiting), but a bit higher in the vertical axis, which would put them up closer to Nevada on that chart.

Last Edited: 10/3/2014 5:05:58 PM by L.C.

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Alan Swank
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RE: Outplaying recruiting rankings

Posted: 10/3/2014 5:17:33 PM

L.C. wrote:

GoCats105 wrote:

So one could conclude that those in the grey area have better coaches. Right?

L.C.
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RE: Outplaying recruiting rankings

Posted: 10/3/2014 5:55:13 PM

To the extent that the chart is accurate, the coaches in the gray area are better at "coaching", and those in the red area are better at "recruiting", while those along the line are equal in both skills. If the goal is to win games, does it matter whether the coaches win it by recruiting better players, or by coaching up worse players? For example, on the chart Boston College teams have been about as good as Ohio's teams, despite having had much better recruiting. Is one "better" than the other? Or is it just that there are more than one way to get to the same place?

I think it's universally true that those schools in the gray want to see their schools recruiting better, while those in the red want to see their schools get more out of the players they have recruited. Given where Ohio is on the chart, it isn't surprising that the main complaint here is a desire for better recruiting (with the belief that better recruiting would move Ohio diagonally to the left, and that they would stay in the gray area).

Interestingly, had you placed Solich on the same chart when he was at Nebraska, his teams probably averaged about #20, and recruiting probably was about #35, so he was positioned well into the gray while there, too. The coach that followed him was more like #15 recruiting, #40 team rank, so he was well into the red, while their current coach is right on the line, so it can move around a lot, depending on who the coach is.

Last Edited: 10/3/2014 6:07:31 PM by L.C.

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