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It enabled our bench to get some very valuable minutes and Groce a chance to do a lot of teaching. As for the game, I'm still glad we did it.   As to whether this was worth traveling to see, apparently a lot of people thought it was worth it.  I don't think we'd want to do it every year because I think it would lose it's intrigue but every 3 years or so would be a good thing.  Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,167 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 11:09:19 AM  Before the game, I predicted there would be 4000 present, so golf clap for everyone who made it to the game. I also don't think it's a bad idea to consider playing AT Marietta for an exhibition game. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 11:17:48 AM  BobcatGman wrote:    . . . .The most important thing here is,  Did Ohio win over any of the Marrietta Fans, would they make the hour drive from Marrietta to come and watch their new favorite D1 Basketball team. I know alot of Pioneer fans we're really impressed with the Bobcats, so time will tell if they buy in to the program. But last night was a good promo to gain new fans, Glad the game happen.  I agree, Gman, that this is an important factor.  I can remember back in the Golden Era of the late 1960s we regularly attracted fans from Marietta for Ohio games.  I have a distinct recollection of talking to a group of Marietta folks who said they tried to make it to Athens for every weekend game and some weekday games.  My impression recently is that we have far fewer of these fans from other areas of SEO who attend our games regularly.  If last night helps a little in increasing interest in our games from the regional citizenry I think it was well worth it.  Now, I'm waiting for a B1G team in the Convo in the near future.  It's a matter of balance.    Edit: For what it's worth, I agree that Marietta had a few more fans in the Convo than we did -- especially if you count the cheerleaders, JV cheerleaders and reserve JV cheerleaders who were constantly walking up and down the aisle beside me to replace the current group on the court.  I was expecting at any moment for an official to blow his whistle for an illegal cheerleader substitution penalty!   Seriously, I did think there were more Marietta fans, but they didn't have much to cheer about so the Ohio fans were louder most of the time.  So if you judged by your "ears" you might conclude that there were more Ohio fans, but if you used your eyeballs it was clear that Marietta won the butts in the seat battle.  There were also some fans there with ties to both schools who wore Marietta colors as kind of an underdog statement.   Last Edited: 12/15/2011 11:25:00 AM by OhioCatFan The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 12:06:01 PM  shabamon wrote: Before the game, I predicted there would be 4000 present, so golf clap for everyone who made it to the game. I also don't think it's a bad idea to consider playing AT Marietta for an exhibition game. This is going to create a lot of hand wringing in the "We are better than that crowd" but I agree.  I can't think of a legitimate reason we shouldn't.  I imagine the crowd would be rabid and that would be good practice for down the road in MAC play.  Our exhibition games don't exactly create a big buzz in Athens, particularly is they are the second one of the year.  Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,959 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 12:32:10 PM  OUVan wrote: shabamon wrote: Before the game, I predicted there would be 4000 present, so golf clap for everyone who made it to the game. I also don't think it's a bad idea to consider playing AT Marietta for an exhibition game. This is going to create a lot of hand wringing in the "We are better than that crowd" but I agree.  I can't think of a legitimate reason we shouldn't.  I imagine the crowd would be rabid and that would be good practice for down the road in MAC play.  Our exhibition games don't exactly create a big buzz in Athens, particularly is they are the second one of the year.  This basketball game for Marietta was the equivalent of OHIO playing football up at the shoe. It was their superbowl. If we played them every year at home I don't know if they would travel as well. I would be comfortable rotating this game between Marietta, Shawnee State and Rio Grande. A local team better draw on the home schedule than a 250+ RPI MEAC or Southland Conference program. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,321 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 1:53:54 PM  Bobcat Love wrote: I'm in Florida, but feel pretty strongly that I would NOT have made the drive down last night had I been in town. I love Ohio Basketball as much (if not more) than anyone, but 1.5 hours each way (I heard it was drizzling) to watch OU scrimmage a D-III team on a Wed night just doesn't make much sense to me. I'm not sure how it could make sense to anyone, but then again, the expectations around here are generally pretty low. The framework of our NCAA competition are the 342 schools in 32 Division 1 basketball conferences. Scheduling/RPI rules aside, I'll come to games where we operate within the framework of our competition. If we can't find a compelling matchup with 341 other schools outside of Marietta, Ohio to choose from - that's an US problem. I found Morgan / ASU / Lamar compelling and I showed up. Marietta - Pass. Edit: Probably going to agree with G-man here. If he says we were outnumbered, I'll go with it. Again, why would anyone from Columbus / Cincy / Cleveland / Dayton go well out of their way to watch a far inferior team from Marietta, Ohio? It's past ridiculous. If Groce and the staff want to bring Marietta fans into the fold, um, keep going with this one. If they want to keep donors and potential donors from the metropolitan areas AWAY from the Convo for a night, um, keep going with this one. I chose not to come down for this one for the reasons you suggested.  I don't think it's a bad game to play, I just felt that given the games I plan to be at in the next couple weeks, it didn't make the list.  Can we make fans out of folks from Marietta?  I don't know. I'd like to think so, but are they fans of Marshall instead?  WVU?  tOSU? Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 2:32:10 PM  OU_Country wrote: I chose not to come down for this one for the reasons you suggested.  I don't think it's a bad game to play, I just felt that given the games I plan to be at in the next couple weeks, it didn't make the list.  Can we make fans out of folks from Marietta?  I don't know. I'd like to think so, but are they fans of Marshall instead?  WVU?  tOSU? I doubt they are fans of either WV team.  Probably a lot of A&M fans. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,725 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 3:33:04 PM  Your analysis suggests Marietta brought over 5.000 fans...Their highest attended game AT HOME this season was 1,040.  I realize the excitement of playing a D1 school may have brought more fans out despite it being on the road...but I don't think over 4,000 more.  I was there, along with the several others that have said in this thread they thought Ohio had more, but not by much, and many with the same Convo experience as you.  I'm not trying to discount that there was a lot of Marietta fans there, and hats off to them for coming out.  I just think taking our attendance minus our average and assuming the result are Marietta fans is a little too simplistic, but I'm a geeky accountant so maybe I'm just not comfortable with such analysis. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,959 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 4:41:59 PM  Andrew Ruck wrote: Your analysis suggests Marietta brought over 5.000 fans...Their highest attended game AT HOME this season was 1,040.  I realize the excitement of playing a D1 school may have brought more fans out despite it being on the road...but I don't think over 4,000 more.  I was there, along with the several others that have said in this thread they thought Ohio had more, but not by much, and many with the same Convo experience as you.  I'm not trying to discount that there was a lot of Marietta fans there, and hats off to them for coming out.  I just think taking our attendance minus our average and assuming the result are Marietta fans is a little too simplistic, but I'm a geeky accountant so maybe I'm just not comfortable with such analysis. Then what you are saying lends credence to the idea that the general SEO basketball fan will turn out to see local universities at the Convo. If these games are important to the local community then I think we've got to keep playing them. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,959 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 4:47:18 PM  Bobcat Love wrote: I found Morgan / ASU / Lamar compelling and I showed up. Marietta - Pass. Then why are you so negative about hosting FCS schools in football if you are more than comfortable about the idea in basketball? Or Louisiana Lafayette in football? It doesn't really make any sense because while a Southern Conference or Sun Belt school has some status in football it has none in men's hoops. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,053 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 6:25:42 PM  Since I always like to speak for the Love, I think he found Morgan St. "compelling" because of Todd Bozeman and Lamar "compelling" due to Pat Knight.  Not sure about Arkansas St.  Back to Top HeHateMiami General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Mason, OH Post Count: 472 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 7:46:57 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: Then what you are saying lends credence to the idea that the general SEO basketball fan will turn out to see local universities at the Convo. Or people have been watching the box scores (so to speak) and the recent winning ways of the team on the road brought more bandwagon fans out to see them in their first home game in a couple of weeks. Back to Top Bobcat Love General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 954 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 9:12:46 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: Bobcat Love wrote: I found Morgan / ASU / Lamar compelling and I showed up. Marietta - Pass. Then why are you so negative about hosting FCS schools in football if you are more than comfortable about the idea in basketball? Or Louisiana Lafayette in football? It doesn't really make any sense because while a Southern Conference or Sun Belt school has some status in football it has none in men's hoops. Huh? They get an auto bid to the same tournament as the ACC, Big 12, Big East, SEC, and MAC. They're all considered Division I in basketball. In football they're in a lower division. That's not compelling. Ark State b/c of John Brady, btw. Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,402 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 9:39:07 PM  1. Nobody from Columbus came........BALONEY! I drove down Rt 33 as usual - plenty of OHIO decals seen along the way. Plus, I brought 3 along instead of the usual 2. 2. I am in the Platinum section - more seats full Than Any Game This year! However, quite a few of those black courtside seats across the way were empty - they better have asses in them vs MAC opponets, even for games that are less than "marquis/rival" opponent - need a strong 6th man right on 'em - not a row of empty folding chairs holding the Ozone back. 3. The population of basketball fans actually living in all of Washington County - minus OHIO fans - think about it, no mathematicaly possible way they had 5,000 there! 4. OHIO play at Marietta? NO, NEVER! I'll say it again - NO, NEVER! RS Bobcat Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,360 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 9:54:10 PM  Anyone want to point out Ark. State is NOT FCS? The Ohio/Marietta split was fairly close to 50/50; Groce said it seemed like a road game when they came out of the locker room. Either way, thanks for coming and thanks for your money. Come again. And did anyone feel a little bit like a power school fan? Seeing their fans, thinking they had no chance... I can see why they get so smug. "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top anorris General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Location: Bristol, CT Post Count: 2,262 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 9:57:49 PM  JSF wrote: Anyone want to point out Ark. State is NOT FCS? Details... Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,360 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 10:03:41 PM  They're in the Sun Belt. They're playing NIU in Mobile. "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,402 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/15/2011 10:08:08 PM  JSF wrote: Anyone want to point out Ark. State is NOT FCS? The Ohio/Marietta split was fairly close to 50/50; Groce said it seemed like a road game when they came out of the locker room. Either way, thanks for coming and thanks for your money. Come again. And did anyone feel a little bit like a power school fan? Seeing their fans, thinking they had no chance... I can see why they get so smug. Definately felt "smug" - but have to admit I appreciated their spunk and spirit. RS Bobcat Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/16/2011 6:49:17 AM  RSBobcat wrote: 4. OHIO play at Marietta? NO, NEVER! I'll say it again - NO, NEVER! Why? Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/16/2011 2:36:10 PM  OUVan wrote: RSBobcat wrote: 4. OHIO play at Marietta? NO, NEVER! I'll say it again - NO, NEVER! Why? Yes, why not.  Can you imagine the goodwill this would generate?  Actually, Marietta is Ohio's oldest rival.  We played our first football game against them in 1894.  No, I wasn't there, but I actually knew someone who was! :-) The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,706 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/17/2011 10:46:22 AM  Been to Marietta. Whilst I love history and gyms of all shapes and sizes there is no way parking, concessions, seating and locker room placement work for an OU invasion. That is just unacceptable even when filled with John Rhodes fans of OU origin wanting to see his ONU team let alone a Groce team that has some swagger. Last Edited: 12/17/2011 10:47:04 AM by bornacatfan never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,402 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/17/2011 1:32:16 PM  Borna - on point. RS Bobcat Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,555 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/17/2011 2:33:30 PM  I've got no problem playing Marietta...  At home.  If we are travelling to Marietta, I expect $1,000,000.  Think they're in? I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,360 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/18/2011 12:24:33 AM  Louisville went to Northern Kentucky... going to Marietta wouldn't be completely without peer. Borna makes a good point, though. I'd be for it. It'd be fun. "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,402 Status: Offline     RE: Marietta Attendance    Posted: 12/18/2011 12:29:28 AM  JSF wrote: Louisville went to Northern Kentucky... going to Marietta wouldn't be completely without peer. Borna makes a good point, though. I'd be for it. It'd be fun. 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