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Coaches may fight it but...why not protect your whole season? Back to Top Maddog13 General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 597 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/14/2020 5:42:15 AM  The very financial solvency of higher education, itself, seems to be in serious question, let alone whether we will see a college football season this year or even five years down the road for that matter. I wonder if faced with something more obvious -- like a Nuclear Winter -- would we all still be wondering whether there will be college football in the fall? Is this a case of hope springs eternal, denial, ignorance, or being completely delusional? I am not personally immune to this by the way, I still find myself following sports, even though there is really not much to report. I hate to be cynical, but I think it is already "game over" in terms of organized sports on any level. I can understand why professional sports would take the leap -- after all, it is purely about money -- but Universities and Colleges? Why? This whole rally around the team concept that you see at Mega Sports programs such as Ohio State, Alabama, and Clemson seems Cult like. In this case, Death Cult like. Unless I was a really serious NFL prospect, I don't understand why any young athlete would potentially trade their future health for a potential moment of glory at a Mid-Major program. Look, I am all about long live organized sports, but at what cost? Back to Top mf279801 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Newark, DE Post Count: 2,452 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/14/2020 9:27:08 AM  Maddog13 wrote: .... even though there is really not much to report.... I don’t know what you’re talking about. The Europeans have been playing kickball for weeks now (I want to say the Germans resumed in May, but it might have been June), there have been a couple weekend of golf, and last week/weekend there was an excellent test match between England and the West Indies. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,050 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/14/2020 7:50:29 PM  Maddog13 wrote: The very financial solvency of higher education, itself, seems to be in serious question, let alone whether we will see a college football season this year or even five years down the road for that matter. I wonder if faced with something more obvious -- like a Nuclear Winter -- would we all still be wondering whether there will be college football in the fall? Is this a case of hope springs eternal, denial, ignorance, or being completely delusional? I am not personally immune to this by the way, I still find myself following sports, even though there is really not much to report. I hate to be cynical, but I think it is already "game over" in terms of organized sports on any level. I can understand why professional sports would take the leap -- after all, it is purely about money -- but Universities and Colleges? Why? This whole rally around the team concept that you see at Mega Sports programs such as Ohio State, Alabama, and Clemson seems Cult like. In this case, Death Cult like. Unless I was a really serious NFL prospect, I don't understand why any young athlete would potentially trade their future health for a potential moment of glory at a Mid-Major program. Look, I am all about long live organized sports, but at what cost? While your prognosis is dire, you could be correct. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,024 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/15/2020 10:26:21 AM  Another conference calls off the fall: https://www.collegemarching.com/content/psac-suspends-fal... "The PSAC joins the CIAA (Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association), SIAC (Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Conference) and CIAC (California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference) as Division II conferences that have suspended fall athletics." Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,486 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/15/2020 10:59:55 AM  Alan Swank wrote: Another conference calls off the fall: https://www.collegemarching.com/content/psac-suspends-fal... "The PSAC joins the CIAA (Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association), SIAC (Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Conference) and CIAC (California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference) as Division II conferences that have suspended fall athletics." Smaller schools simply cannot afford the suggested safety requirements. MAC schools can’t either, but as,one as the BIG10 is holding on. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,289 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/15/2020 2:22:31 PM  Rose Bowl is now cancelled. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,508 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/15/2020 2:29:53 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Rose Bowl is now cancelled. They said on the radio that the Rose Parade is off. But as of now,the game is still on. I just googled the Orange County Register. It says the same thing. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,289 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/15/2020 4:09:01 PM  rpbobcat wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Rose Bowl is now cancelled. They said on the radio that the Rose Parade is off. But as of now,the game is still on. I just googled the Orange County Register. It says the same thing. Yep, you're right. Sorry -- misread. Back to Top . General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 2,949 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/16/2020 9:23:43 AM  Kabuki continues for another week or two. Then the death rate is going to get to a point that no sane human will be worried about football. And we’ve still got another wave to prepare for. Yay. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,152 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/16/2020 11:21:11 AM  For bowl eligibility, teams must win at least half their games no matter how many they play and for this season only can count two wins vs 1AA schools: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29469598... . The 1AA change will primarily help the independent schools. They'll lose more than their schedules if all conferences go to conference-only. Of course, if 1AA conferences keep dropping the season, it may be a meaningless rule change because there might not be any 1AA schools available to play. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,822 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/16/2020 11:05:43 PM  article has interesting graph - doubts games this fall https://www.si.com/college/2020/07/16/trump-fumble-corona... Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,152 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/20/2020 10:37:43 PM  Texas looking to have 50% capacity for its home games but Rutgers is looking to limit attendance to 500 people per game (that may be half the number who show up anyway). California high school football season won't start until December or January. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,508 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/21/2020 6:43:21 AM  Pataskala wrote: Rutgers is looking to limit attendance to 500 people per game (that may be half the number who show up anyway). 10 days ago Gov.Murphy said in an interview he was optimistic about fans at games. Then he decided sporting events were no different then any other outdoor gathering. That put a limit of 500 people. According to the local papers,they figure only family members of players and coaches will be at Rutgers games. Most likely no band. Based on the 500 number the Giants and Jets will have no fans. They were talking about this on WFAN this morning. In the case of the Jets and Giants the stadium holds over 70,000. So why not have something like 15000 fans ? Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,754 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/22/2020 1:59:20 PM  Toledo Coach Jason Candle just announced he has tested positive. Back to Top ShoreCat General User Member Since: 3/10/2011 Location: Avon Lake, OH Post Count: 207 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/27/2020 2:18:01 PM  After seeing what happened with Michigan State, after seeing what is happening with major league baseball, I'm now to the point where playing college football would be irresponsible. Yes, millions would be lost. Yes some players would have pro careers threatened. But unlike the NBA and NHL, you can't keep student-athletes in a bubble. And since you can't the risks are too high. These are student athletes. They can continue their education remotely if that's how their school operates. Postpone/delay the season. Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,184 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/27/2020 3:21:48 PM  BayCat wrote: After seeing what happened with Michigan State, after seeing what is happening with major league baseball, I'm now to the point where playing college football would be irresponsible. Yes, millions would be lost. Yes some players would have pro careers threatened. But unlike the NBA and NHL, you can't keep student-athletes in a bubble. And since you can't the risks are too high. These are student athletes. They can continue their education remotely if that's how their school operates. Postpone/delay the season. Spring football. Back to Top TheBobcatBandit General User Member Since: 8/25/2013 Post Count: 611 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/27/2020 7:40:51 PM  Doc Bobcat wrote: BayCat wrote: After seeing what happened with Michigan State, after seeing what is happening with major league baseball, I'm now to the point where playing college football would be irresponsible. Yes, millions would be lost. Yes some players would have pro careers threatened. But unlike the NBA and NHL, you can't keep student-athletes in a bubble. And since you can't the risks are too high. These are student athletes. They can continue their education remotely if that's how their school operates. Postpone/delay the season. Spring football. I’m for football starting back up in the fall, however it would be fascinating as an experiment to see how CFB would do in the spring if everything is back to normal by then. It may lead to a decrease in attendance and tv views if people just feel it’s wrong to have cfb in the spring and feel football should strictly be a fall sport, however if that’s not the case these measures might go up without the competition from the nfl for people’s weekend plans. CFB would be competing more with other sports but for fractions of the schedule they already do that anyways. Am for the fall but again would be fascinated to see how it would go. Last Edited: 7/28/2020 1:48:23 PM by TheBobcatBandit Back to Top OhioBoy General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 16 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/27/2020 8:26:16 PM  Miami announced today all virtual classes and no on campus living will be open to students their fall semester so... Last Edited: 7/27/2020 8:27:15 PM by OhioBoy Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,754 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/27/2020 8:36:18 PM  Not accurate. Back to Top Kevin Finnegan General User Member Since: 2/4/2005 Location: Rockton, IL Post Count: 1,086 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/28/2020 10:30:35 AM  I really think that baseball's reaction to positive tests will be telling to how sports go forward. If we can show that asymptomatic people can return quickly, I think that there is a chance at playing. Here's what is telling. There have been hundreds of positive cases between college sports and professional sports. Yet so far, I don't believe there has been a single hospitalization reported, let alone any severe symptoms. I wonder if this provides any level of change in thinking when restarting sports. If athletes prove to be incredibly low/no risk, maybe sports have a better chance of being successful. I know this is not the normal flu, and do not mean to insinuate that it is, but if measures are in place for asymptomatic cases (masks, especially), this may be a way to show the country that we can still operate as a country when there is a positive case. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,289 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/28/2020 11:14:06 AM  Kevin Finnegan wrote: I really think that baseball's reaction to positive tests will be telling to how sports go forward. If we can show that asymptomatic people can return quickly, I think that there is a chance at playing. Here's what is telling. There have been hundreds of positive cases between college sports and professional sports. Yet so far, I don't believe there has been a single hospitalization reported, let alone any severe symptoms. I wonder if this provides any level of change in thinking when restarting sports. If athletes prove to be incredibly low/no risk, maybe sports have a better chance of being successful. I know this is not the normal flu, and do not mean to insinuate that it is, but if measures are in place for asymptomatic cases (masks, especially), this may be a way to show the country that we can still operate as a country when there is a positive case. Sports are definitely an interesting test case. However, the variable at play that can't necessarily be duplicated are: 1) testing infrastructure 2) the 'bubble' What the NBA is doing, for instance, isn't really replicable. And even what MLB is doing can't be done without better testing infrastructure. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,024 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/28/2020 5:16:55 PM  Kevin Finnegan wrote: I really think that baseball's reaction to positive tests will be telling to how sports go forward. If we can show that asymptomatic people can return quickly, I think that there is a chance at playing. Here's what is telling. There have been hundreds of positive cases between college sports and professional sports. Yet so far, I don't believe there has been a single hospitalization reported, let alone any severe symptoms. I wonder if this provides any level of change in thinking when restarting sports. If athletes prove to be incredibly low/no risk, maybe sports have a better chance of being successful. I know this is not the normal flu, and do not mean to insinuate that it is, but if measures are in place for asymptomatic cases (masks, especially), this may be a way to show the country that we can still operate as a country when there is a positive case. The variable that you've left out of the equation is who those athletes might give it to. Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,401 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/28/2020 8:28:50 PM  tO$U announced 20% seating today.... RS Bobcat Back to Top Maddog13 General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 597 Status: Offline     RE: There will be football this Fall    Posted: 7/29/2020 12:43:54 AM  The End of College sports is near: https://www.si.com/college/2020/07/27/college-football-bu... The following quote, which talks about the need for a protective bubble -- at the very least -- to combat COVID-19, comes from the above article as follows: "All classes could go online. In this situation, the only people allowed on campus would be athletes, coaches and other essential team staff members." WOW! And I thought that going to college was about getting an education? The real problem, in my opinion, is that even contemplating a football season is purely about money, and it has nothing to do with the health, safety, or the good of the University, let alone the welfare of each community connected to each University. I guess that, in reality, there is very little difference between winning at all costs and greed. At the end of the day, who exactly benefits from all of this? Is it the coaches, the schools, the television networks, and the players? I love sports, but we, in this country, really need to start rethinking our priorities here. I mean, really. 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