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Topic: RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Topic: RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

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The Optimist
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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 11/27/2017 10:01:34 PM

A large (and growing) % of elite soccer players don't play high school at all. Year-round club or academy soccer. This isn't specific to Ohio as it is largely US Soccer structural decisions driving this (although OHSAA certainly isn't helping matters)

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 11/28/2017 10:29:07 PM

We need JC back in a hurry. Those jump shots are getting flat in the second half from guys having to put in so many minutes. Just hope that he's back sometime in December...we need him in the worst way.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 11/29/2017 12:02:12 AM

According to Saul, if his X-ray tomorrow shows sufficient healing of the fracture, he could play as early as Friday in the Coppin State game. That, of course, would be great news.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 11/29/2017 1:13:31 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

According to Saul, if his X-ray tomorrow shows sufficient healing of the fracture, he could play as early as Friday in the Coppin State game. That, of course, would be great news.

Totally missed this nugget!
When did Saul say that?

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 11/29/2017 2:51:42 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

According to Saul, if his X-ray tomorrow shows sufficient healing of the fracture, he could play as early as Friday in the Coppin State game. That, of course, would be great news.

January 2, 2018 should be his return date. That is the MAC opener with Central Michigan. We aren't getting an at-large bid this year and the group we have plus Mickle back will get us at least a .500 record (losses to Maryland and Western Kentucky are pretty much locks with Marshall a possibility). We are 3-3 now so wins against Prairie View, Northwestern Technical Academy or whatever and Coppin State would make us 6-6 in the non-league (maybe 7-5 with a win over Marshall). I'm good with that to get that stress fracture even less stressed!

Now, BVP and Gareri are the two I'm curious about. Have to imagine one will redshirt right? We won't have minutes available for the 7 we have now, plus Mickle and Carter.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 11/29/2017 3:04:24 PM

jumper80 wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

According to Saul, if his X-ray tomorrow shows sufficient healing of the fracture, he could play as early as Friday in the Coppin State game. That, of course, would be great news.

Totally missed this nugget!
When did Saul say that?

Press conference after Mt.SM, if I recall. YouTube OhioBobcatTV.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 11/29/2017 3:06:46 PM

jumper80 wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

According to Saul, if his X-ray tomorrow shows sufficient healing of the fracture, he could play as early as Friday in the Coppin State game. That, of course, would be great news.

Totally missed this nugget!
When did Saul say that?

Pregame radio interview on WXTQ. Again, the "if" here is what the doctors say after viewing the X-ray. Depends on how well it has healed. But, by the tone of his voice he seemed optimistic.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 11/29/2017 3:07:16 PM

Bobcat1998 wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

According to Saul, if his X-ray tomorrow shows sufficient healing of the fracture, he could play as early as Friday in the Coppin State game. That, of course, would be great news.

Part of me agrees with you on Carter. The other part says if he's healthy, maybe give him an extra week to be on the safe side, but otherwise get him in a game before MAC play to shake off the rust from having not played for so long.

Re: Redshirt, as others have said at points, I would have to imagine Saul & staff would be reluctant to redshirt unless the injury carries into February.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 11/30/2017 9:51:45 AM

I don't see how you take a boot off after 5-6 weeks and are suddenly able to play d1 basketball with no rehab. even if the bone is completely healed.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 11/30/2017 10:47:03 AM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

I don't see how you take a boot off after 5-6 weeks and are suddenly able to play d1 basketball with no rehab. even if the bone is completely healed.

I was thinking the same thing. He'd almost have to get a few practices under his belt, if nothing else for conditioning purposes.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 11/30/2017 9:49:12 PM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

I don't see how you take a boot off after 5-6 weeks and are suddenly able to play d1 basketball with no rehab. even if the bone is completely healed.

At Ball State while Ethel Gregory and Majerus were here we implemented wet vests in the pool and running workouts in the deep end based on Joan Benoit's experience , shooting workouts in 4 foot of water based on David Rivers post accident recovery at Notre Dame and a variety of other methods to get stress fractures back as early as 3 weeks. Amazing time with the Biomechanics Lab, Athletic Training Professiorial Staff and community physicians pushing the envelope to keep athletes healthy. Drawing on each other's individual skills and knowledge we got a lot accomplished and in a lot shorter time than most thought possible. Keeping them working all other parts/systems of the body while protecting the fracture site is the key.

A lot of return to play depends on what you are able to keep kids doing cardiovascularly, the severity of the stress reaction/fracture, the biomechanics involved. Stress fractures heal, not much rehab involved. I never was a fan of letting athletes sit....does not help them mentally and sure leaves them at a physical and conditioning deficit. We always used the general tenet that for every day lost of activity we lost 3 days of base conditioning.

There were lots of doubters but we were getting them back on the court pretty efficiently at the U with great long term results. Not sure what OHIO has in place to facilitate return to play.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/1/2017 9:41:53 AM

bornacatfan wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

I don't see how you take a boot off after 5-6 weeks and are suddenly able to play d1 basketball with no rehab. even if the bone is completely healed.

Extra props for the correct usage and spelling of "tenets", TF.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/1/2017 9:44:36 AM

Players play. Bring him back as the doctors & trainers see fit. Nurse him along a bit the first few games, but don't make him sit around and wait for MAC play.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/1/2017 1:38:35 PM

At the 2:45 mark, Doug says (paraphrasing) "Getting Jason back next week..."

https://twitter.com/RussEisenstein/status/936626698195537920

Reading too much into it or did Doug let it slip that Jason Carter is coming back next week?

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/2/2017 5:53:05 AM

If there are no setbacks in the next week, Arkley tweets that he expects Jason to play against MD Thursday (Big Ten Network, 7 p.m.).

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/2/2017 9:49:58 AM

100%Cat wrote:

They mentioned during the ESPN broadcast last night that Carter has been working out and running with the team. Also mentioned that Saul said he was a possibility for Maryland.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/2/2017 10:02:17 AM

A-townBound wrote:

100%Cat wrote:

They mentioned during the ESPN broadcast last night that Carter has been working out and running with the team. Also mentioned that Saul said he was a possibility for Maryland.

Frayer also mentioned at the Coppin press conference that all the injured were practicing, although with limits, and there were no more boots, crutches etc.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/2/2017 11:55:27 AM

colobobcat66 wrote:

A-townBound wrote:

100%Cat wrote:

They mentioned during the ESPN broadcast last night that Carter has been working out and running with the team. Also mentioned that Saul said he was a possibility for Maryland.

Frayer also mentioned at the Coppin press conference that all the injured were practicing, although with limits, and there were no more boots, crutches etc.

No need to rush back....rather them be 100% and ready to go Mid-January than Mid-December. Just continue to weather the storm until we have them back and Saul has an 8-9 man rotation going by February 1st.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/2/2017 3:34:25 PM

I would say overuse accounts for a lot of these injuries. Too many kids play only one sport now and stress the same bones ligaments and muscles all the time. Multi sport athletes develop more rounded body structures.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/3/2017 10:36:46 AM

Casper71 wrote:

THat is a growing body of evidence. OTOH we have much better strength/flexibility and attention to those sport specific preparation so you would think there is a bit of a wash. THe least injured athletes I encounter over the last 30 years are indeed, triathletes. It is an interesting conundrum. Greg Oden and Sam Bowie are compelling studies but there are many factors there that may play larger roles in their injury profile. The recent move toward multiple disciplines with Cross Fit and similar approaches are probably more in line with life long fitness

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/21/2017 7:03:01 AM

I read on the game summary that Jason Carter is "reinjured".

Does that mean the previous injury came back,or did he injure something else ?

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/21/2017 7:30:07 AM

rpbobcat wrote:

I read on the game summary that Jason Carter is "reinjured".

Does that mean the previous injury came back,or did he injure something else ?

Heard last night that this goes all the way back to junior year in high school with possible misdiagnosis and treatment. If I was a betting man I'd say redshirt this year. Sitting out a year and getting it right is much preferable to hobbling a whole career and throughout life.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/21/2017 8:10:45 AM

Alan Swank wrote:

rpbobcat wrote:

I read on the game summary that Jason Carter is "reinjured".

Does that mean the previous injury came back,or did he injure something else ?

Seems odd that they didn't pick up on it until now.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/21/2017 8:17:50 AM

rpbobcat wrote:

Alan Swank wrote:

rpbobcat wrote:

I read on the game summary that Jason Carter is "reinjured".

Does that mean the previous injury came back,or did he injure something else ?

Seems odd that they didn't pick up on it until now.

Not at all. Stuff gets misdiagnosed all the time. I once fell against a low railroad tie wall and went to the hospital and was told I had some serious bruising. The pain didn't go away. Went back to the same hospital two days later with different doctors and was told I had broken ribs and a punctured lung. As for Carter, I'll defer to our resident Indiana foot doctor/specialist on this one.

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RE: Jason Carter’s status for Saturday

Posted: 12/21/2017 8:46:20 AM

Of course, it still could be a guess on some doctor's part. Hoping Jason fully heals and has a nice career with Ohio. If that means sitting out the rest of this season, by all means do it.

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