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LuckySparrow
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   Posted: 12/4/2016 2:03:59 PM 
I've expressed a few times over the last few weeks that I'm a Greg Windham guy. Who knows how badly the injury affected his ability to play in the last few games, but I definitely thought he was THE GUY for 2016.

The second he was put into the game on Friday, I felt our offense open up. I thought we had a much better chance to win. The confidence in the passing game was there again. I'm happy Maxwell got some solid experience this year, which will no doubt help him for the years ahead.

But I really have to question the coaching staff's judgement to keep Windham on the bench towards the end of the season. Yes, he struggled with accuracy and short throws and the injury was a factor, but I think we should have stuck with him.

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/4/2016 2:28:56 PM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
No MACC 12 years.


But, go ahead, keep missing the big point.




One more person whose catnip has no home...
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/4/2016 9:01:22 PM 
You're so much more attractive when you're losing it and falling to f-bombs.

Which is not to say that you are at all attractive at that point.

Nice black hole; don't have any and suck it away from others.



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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:17:43 AM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
You're so much more attractive when you're losing it and falling to f-bombs.

Which is not to say that you are at all attractive at that point.

Nice black hole; don't have any and suck it away from others.



ironic from the guy who turns every thread into a black hole
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:26:36 AM 
LuckySparrow wrote:
I've expressed a few times over the last few weeks that I'm a Greg Windham guy. Who knows how badly the injury affected his ability to play in the last few games, but I definitely thought he was THE GUY for 2016.

The second he was put into the game on Friday, I felt our offense open up. I thought we had a much better chance to win. The confidence in the passing game was there again. I'm happy Maxwell got some solid experience this year, which will no doubt help him for the years ahead.

But I really have to question the coaching staff's judgement to keep Windham on the bench towards the end of the season. Yes, he struggled with accuracy and short throws and the injury was a factor, but I think we should have stuck with him.


I think Windham's ankle (presumably a high ankle sprain?) kept him on the bench. He said before the MACC that his ankle was still only at 80%. Here's to hoping he (and the rest of the team) are at 100% health for the bowl game.
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   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:38:44 AM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
No MACC 12 years.


But, go ahead, keep missing the big point.




The silver lining in Ohio falling short of the MAC title is that you don't get to enjoy a title. I blame Joey Burrow.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:44:54 AM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
No MACC 12 years.


But, go ahead, keep missing the big point.




The silver lining in Ohio falling short of the MAC title is that you don't get to enjoy a title. I blame Joey Burrow.



Oh, just wait until the "JT Barrett returns for his senior season/Joe Burrow to transfer" speculation gets ramped up. It will be glorious.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/5/2016 10:05:42 AM 
Joe Burrow looks like a pretty good QB, hopefully Barrett leaves and he gets two years, if not he will get a lot more time next year. Barrett is not ready for the NFL but if OSU wins that may propel him to leave. Barrett needs to bulk up and get more consistent in the passing game. We need a QB that plays like Burrow that wants to come here and play right away ala Roethlisberger.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/5/2016 10:21:07 AM 
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
LuckySparrow wrote:
I've expressed a few times over the last few weeks that I'm a Greg Windham guy. Who knows how badly the injury affected his ability to play in the last few games, but I definitely thought he was THE GUY for 2016.

The second he was put into the game on Friday, I felt our offense open up. I thought we had a much better chance to win. The confidence in the passing game was there again. I'm happy Maxwell got some solid experience this year, which will no doubt help him for the years ahead.

But I really have to question the coaching staff's judgement to keep Windham on the bench towards the end of the season. Yes, he struggled with accuracy and short throws and the injury was a factor, but I think we should have stuck with him.


I think Windham's ankle (presumably a high ankle sprain?) kept him on the bench. He said before the MACC that his ankle was still only at 80%. Here's to hoping he (and the rest of the team) are at 100% health for the bowl game.



That must have been the case. He only ran three times against WMU and I don't think any of those were designed runs.

Get those RBs fully healthy for Troy and lets run all over them!

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/5/2016 10:56:31 AM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
No MACC 12 years.


But, go ahead, keep missing the big point.




The silver lining in Ohio falling short of the MAC title is that you don't get to enjoy a title. I blame Joey Burrow.


I blame Monroe Slavin. He put just too much pressure on our team with his constant posts. How could anyone not wilt under such a sustained blitz? ;-)

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/5/2016 12:00:42 PM 
Doc Bobcat wrote:
So proud of OUr guys. With improved QB play next year {fingers crossed)... we will be hard to beat.


Agreed on the pride side of it. They played a damn good game, and just simply fell a little short to a little bit better team. Helluva effort!


The QB play, and offensive approach/play making continue to be Achilles heel of this program. Midway through the year, I was full on the Maxwell wagon because I thought he showed himself to be a better, more competent passer with more upside than Windham. My concern for the future is whether or not he'll progress into more than we saw this year. Regardless of how good the rest of the team is, the difference between Ohio teams and other MAC Championship caliber teams over the last 5-6 years has been the QB position, and our team making fewer big plays on offense than those teams. In big games like this one, getting the ball to our best playmakers needs to happen more. With that in mind, how does Papi not return kicks, and how does he only get two receptions?
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   Posted: 12/5/2016 12:40:25 PM 
The loss was frustrating, but I was so proud of the Bobcat team. They got behind early, but never backed down. They played smart, and got back into position to win the game. Playing against probably the best MAC team since Miami in 2003, they were in position to win it in the last minute.

This team knows how good they can be next year. Are they going to take some people's advice, and give up since they can never win? Or, are they going to go back regroup, take it out on Troy, and bust their butts all off-season trying to be that much better next year? I'm betting on the latter.

It's been a season of ups and downs, but this has been a very good Bobcat team. It will always be among my favorites. The naysayers who never played the game, and who have no idea how much work these players put in, and who make incredibly stupid and clueless comments like "it's only football" and that anyone should be able to learn it in a year or so, with proper coaching will always complain, but their complaints are meaningless since they have no foundation of knowledge.

Go Bobcats. Some team goals like beating Miami, getting to a bowl, and winning the East have been accomplished. Others like winning the MAC Championship were not. You have one more goal to accomplish this season, a bowl win. Put this behind you and go achieve that last goal.

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   Posted: 12/5/2016 2:23:27 PM 
L.C. wrote:
The loss was frustrating, but I was so proud of the Bobcat team. They got behind early, but never backed down. They played smart, and got back into position to win the game. Playing against probably the best MAC team since Miami in 2003, they were in position to win it in the last minute.

This team knows how good they can be next year. Are they going to take some people's advice, and give up since they can never win? Or, are they going to go back regroup, take it out on Troy, and bust their butts all off-season trying to be that much better next year? I'm betting on the latter.

It's been a season of ups and downs, but this has been a very good Bobcat team. It will always be among my favorites. The naysayers who never played the game, and who have no idea how much work these players put in, and who make incredibly stupid and clueless comments like "it's only football" and that anyone should be able to learn it in a year or so, with proper coaching will always complain, but their complaints are meaningless since they have no foundation of knowledge.

Go Bobcats. Some team goals like beating Miami, getting to a bowl, and winning the East have been accomplished. Others like winning the MAC Championship were not. You have one more goal to accomplish this season, a bowl win. Put this behind you and go achieve that last goal.


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   Posted: 12/5/2016 2:35:57 PM 
L.C. wrote:
The loss was frustrating, but I was so proud of the Bobcat team. They got behind early, but never backed down. They played smart, and got back into position to win the game. Playing against probably the best MAC team since Miami in 2003, they were in position to win it in the last minute.

This team knows how good they can be next year. Are they going to take some people's advice, and give up since they can never win? Or, are they going to go back regroup, take it out on Troy, and bust their butts all off-season trying to be that much better next year? I'm betting on the latter.

It's been a season of ups and downs, but this has been a very good Bobcat team. It will always be among my favorites. The naysayers who never played the game, and who have no idea how much work these players put in, and who make incredibly stupid and clueless comments like "it's only football" and that anyone should be able to learn it in a year or so, with proper coaching will always complain, but their complaints are meaningless since they have no foundation of knowledge.

Go Bobcats. Some team goals like beating Miami, getting to a bowl, and winning the East have been accomplished. Others like winning the MAC Championship were not. You have one more goal to accomplish this season, a bowl win. Put this behind you and go achieve that last goal.



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   Posted: 12/5/2016 3:26:04 PM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
cc-cat wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
What is the answer?


Belichick has always preached that the number one priority is to not give the ball back to the opponent if you get possession near the end of the half. Second objective is to score. Of course it helps on both counts to have Brady.





Look, we played quite a good game.

But a coaching staff that puts fear of a turnover before the importance of trying to score is...mediocre.

In a game in which we, being a huge underdog, we had nothing to lose, on our last two drives of the first half (3rd and long from our 10 and we run instead of pass...36 seconds to go and we run out the half instead of trying to score), the coaching staff underperformed, showing us why no MACC in 12 years.

But, sure, it's gonna happen in year 13.




I was puzzled by the same thing. We're going to the Dollar General Bowl no matter the outcome, you're 18-point underdogs, and you haven't won a title in 48 years. Show some desire to try and WIN and not to try and not lose.
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   Posted: 12/5/2016 5:22:22 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
No MACC 12 years.


But, go ahead, keep missing the big point.




The silver lining in Ohio falling short of the MAC title is that you don't get to enjoy a title. I blame Joey Burrow.


I blame Monroe Slavin. He put just too much pressure on our team with his constant posts. How could anyone not wilt under such a sustained blitz? ;-)



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   Posted: 12/5/2016 5:25:12 PM 
Maryland Bobcat wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
cc-cat wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
What is the answer?


Belichick has always preached that the number one priority is to not give the ball back to the opponent if you get possession near the end of the half. Second objective is to score. Of course it helps on both counts to have Brady.





Look, we played quite a good game.

But a coaching staff that puts fear of a turnover before the importance of trying to score is...mediocre.

In a game in which we, being a huge underdog, we had nothing to lose, on our last two drives of the first half (3rd and long from our 10 and we run instead of pass...36 seconds to go and we run out the half instead of trying to score), the coaching staff underperformed, showing us why no MACC in 12 years.

But, sure, it's gonna happen in year 13.




I was puzzled by the same thing. We're going to the Dollar General Bowl no matter the outcome, you're 18-point underdogs, and you haven't won a title in 48 years. Show some desire to try and WIN and not to try and not lose.


You can harp on this all you want, but the more you say it doesn't make it smart. When you can't run AT ALL, you sure don't take chances deep in your own territory with :36 to go with your rusty qb who hasn't played in a month. Yes, it was great that he hit a deep ball a few drives earlier, but it wasn't smart to take chances there. I didn't even like us running the ball on that one play. I thought we should have just taken a knee. We did the smart thing. Get to the locker room and adjust. IF you want to harp on something that might have cost us the game late in the first half, it was the tripping penalty. Instead of picking up a critical 1st down that at the very least gets us to the end of the half down only 16-7, we end up in a huge hole, have to punt and WMU gets a score before half thanks to a short field. I'm not positive but those 7 points were fairly important in a 6-point game. If you want to be mad about something in the 2016 season, be mad about Texas State and EMU beating us at home. Neither of those should have happened.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/5/2016 5:38:43 PM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
Maryland Bobcat wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
cc-cat wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
What is the answer?


Belichick has always preached that the number one priority is to not give the ball back to the opponent if you get possession near the end of the half. Second objective is to score. Of course it helps on both counts to have Brady.





Look, we played quite a good game.

But a coaching staff that puts fear of a turnover before the importance of trying to score is...mediocre.

In a game in which we, being a huge underdog, we had nothing to lose, on our last two drives of the first half (3rd and long from our 10 and we run instead of pass...36 seconds to go and we run out the half instead of trying to score), the coaching staff underperformed, showing us why no MACC in 12 years.

But, sure, it's gonna happen in year 13.




I was puzzled by the same thing. We're going to the Dollar General Bowl no matter the outcome, you're 18-point underdogs, and you haven't won a title in 48 years. Show some desire to try and WIN and not to try and not lose.


You can harp on this all you want, but the more you say it doesn't make it smart. When you can't run AT ALL, you sure don't take chances deep in your own territory with :36 to go with your rusty qb who hasn't played in a month. Yes, it was great that he hit a deep ball a few drives earlier, but it wasn't smart to take chances there. I didn't even like us running the ball on that one play. I thought we should have just taken a knee. We did the smart thing. Get to the locker room and adjust. IF you want to harp on something that might have cost us the game late in the first half, it was the tripping penalty. Instead of picking up a critical 1st down that at the very least gets us to the end of the half down only 16-7, we end up in a huge hole, have to punt and WMU gets a score before half thanks to a short field. I'm not positive but those 7 points were fairly important in a 6-point game. If you want to be mad about something in the 2016 season, be mad about Texas State and EMU beating us at home. Neither of those should have happened.



OCF--You are correct. I am totally responsible for us coming up a bit short of the W vs. WMU.

L.C.-- I've considered your question. I think it's close, but the team should probably not listen to those who protest the coaching, who question if we're able to get it done.

DFC--So, AFTER the tripping and the further deficit from the tripping resulting in, as you say, a huge whole and crucial 7 points in a 6 point loss., we should button down and not take a shot, not try to get the points back.

That makes no sense.

The odds of a turnover are a lot less than the odds of a turnover not happening.

The odds of making a first down on 3rd and 14 and the odds of scoring from deep in our territory with 36 seconds left in the half are long...but non-existent if you don't try.

Simply put, please spend less time all angered up and learn to count in terms of points and clock.








Last Edited: 12/5/2016 5:39:34 PM by Monroe Slavin

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   Posted: 12/5/2016 5:41:22 PM 
Now, if our coaching staff would also realize clock and score management and stop being so deathly afraid of a turnover (also see MACC 20-0 to 20-23), perhaps some posters on this board wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

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   Posted: 12/5/2016 5:43:20 PM 
L.C. wrote:
The loss was frustrating, but I was so proud of the Bobcat team. They got behind early, but never backed down. They played smart, and got back into position to win the game. Playing against probably the best MAC team since Miami in 2003, they were in position to win it in the last minute.

This team knows how good they can be next year. Are they going to take some people's advice, and give up since they can never win? Or, are they going to go back regroup, take it out on Troy, and bust their butts all off-season trying to be that much better next year? I'm betting on the latter.

It's been a season of ups and downs, but this has been a very good Bobcat team. It will always be among my favorites. The naysayers who never played the game, and who have no idea how much work these players put in, and who make incredibly stupid and clueless comments like "it's only football" and that anyone should be able to learn it in a year or so, with proper coaching will always complain, but their complaints are meaningless since they have no foundation of knowledge.

Go Bobcats. Some team goals like beating Miami, getting to a bowl, and winning the East have been accomplished. Others like winning the MAC Championship were not. You have one more goal to accomplish this season, a bowl win. Put this behind you and go achieve that last goal.


Please stop with the "if you didn't play, you don't understand" comments. I totally get that if you played, you obviously have a knowledge maybe greater than those that didn't play on certain things. But to use that as a blanket statement....that "if you didn't play, you don't know what you're talking about" is absurd.

If that was the case, then most announcers in CFB and other sports would have no business doing their job.

Should Verne Lundquist never be allowed to comment on a football/basketball game because he wasn't a DI player? No . I value Verne's opinion.

Same goes for Mike Leach. Is he a stupid coach that doesn't know what he's doing because he never played football? I wouldn't say so.

There are a lot of comments on here that shouldn't be automatically dismissed just because the author "didn't play"

Such a cop out to use that as an excuse because you disagree with their point of view.

Everyone is entitled their opinion no matter what their background is. But to continue to use the "you didn't play, you don't know what you're talking about" is being about as close-minded as you can be.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/5/2016 8:38:00 PM 
Really. This threads wouldn't exist if one had to be an ex-player.

A solid thought is a solid thought on its own...without regard to whether one has perfect knowledge of football or not.




Good to see L.C. basically leaning in to fire against those of us who think that a running back learning to run lower or a team being able to learn how to take a snap from directly under center should take less than three years.

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   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:27:51 PM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Now, if our coaching staff would also realize clock and score management and stop being so deathly afraid of a turnover (also see MACC 20-0 to 20-23), perhaps some posters on this board wouldn't have a leg to stand on.



Conversely, after having only had 2 first downs up to that point, what if Ohio tries a long pass, it's incomplete, thus stopping the clock, giving WMU the ball in Ohio territory with say 25 seconds left? With Corey Davis' long TD catch earlier in the half, WMU had already demonstrated quick strike ability. If this scenario took place and WMU had scored a TD and extended the score even more (and absolutely have momentum on its side) to say 30-7, Monroe, you'd be all over Solich for poor clock management. And don't say that you'd have given Solich kudos for at least trying; that's being intellectually dishonest. Belichick would NOT have gone for it in that situation and that's with having Tom Brady.

I agree-Ohio's had some questionable playcalling this year, no doubt. Not throwing from deep in its territory with 36 seconds left on 3rd down after having demonstrated an inability (up to that point) to move the ball against the #17 team in the country in front of a very hostile crowd and already being down 23-7 is not one of those times.
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   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:34:57 PM 
bshot44 wrote:
Please stop with the "if you didn't play, you don't understand" comments. ...

Please read what I wrote again. I did not that that if you didn't play, you can't understand, and I wouldn't say that, because I do agree that there are people who never played who do understand the game. What I did say that is that there are people on this board who never played the game, and who made "incredibly stupid and clueless comments". It is the comments that I condemn.

I do think that if one never played, that places a burden on you to try to learn what you don't know. When one has a closed mind, that is unlikely. I have always believed that ignorance and arrogance are a particularly abhorrent combination.

Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
... Not throwing from deep in its territory with 36 seconds left on 3rd down after having demonstrated an inability (up to that point) to move the ball against the #17 team in the country in front of a very hostile crowd and already being down 23-7 is not one of those times.

Your comment is correct, as is DFC's above. The fact is that the team was in a position to win the game in the final minute against one of the best MAC teams in a long time. They didn't get into that position by taking stupid chances.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:47:03 PM 
Monroe, my man, most of us who haven't played the game and have trouble identifying zone blocking on the line from man-to-man blocking, tend to defer to reasonable explanations from those who actually know the Xs and Os of football. It doesn't mean we don't have opinions, and it doesn't mean we shouldn't express them. It does mean that we would be wise to understand what we don't know and realize that our perceptions might not the accurate. I find it interesting that virtually all of those with coaching experience, including some who have played football at Ohio, seem to support Solich and see progress in the program. It doesn't mean that they are necessarily right, but I'd tend to put my money on their assessments more than the assessments of those of us who write more from emotion and anecdotal recall of selected and less than learned observations.

Last Edited: 12/5/2016 9:49:35 PM by OhioCatFan

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Western Michigan
   Posted: 12/5/2016 10:05:25 PM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
Maryland Bobcat wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
cc-cat wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
What is the answer?


Belichick has always preached that the number one priority is to not give the ball back to the opponent if you get possession near the end of the half. Second objective is to score. Of course it helps on both counts to have Brady.





Look, we played quite a good game.

But a coaching staff that puts fear of a turnover before the importance of trying to score is...mediocre.

In a game in which we, being a huge underdog, we had nothing to lose, on our last two drives of the first half (3rd and long from our 10 and we run instead of pass...36 seconds to go and we run out the half instead of trying to score), the coaching staff underperformed, showing us why no MACC in 12 years.

But, sure, it's gonna happen in year 13.




I was puzzled by the same thing. We're going to the Dollar General Bowl no matter the outcome, you're 18-point underdogs, and you haven't won a title in 48 years. Show some desire to try and WIN and not to try and not lose.


You can harp on this all you want, but the more you say it doesn't make it smart. When you can't run AT ALL, you sure don't take chances deep in your own territory with :36 to go with your rusty qb who hasn't played in a month. Yes, it was great that he hit a deep ball a few drives earlier, but it wasn't smart to take chances there. I didn't even like us running the ball on that one play. I thought we should have just taken a knee. We did the smart thing. Get to the locker room and adjust. IF you want to harp on something that might have cost us the game late in the first half, it was the tripping penalty. Instead of picking up a critical 1st down that at the very least gets us to the end of the half down only 16-7, we end up in a huge hole, have to punt and WMU gets a score before half thanks to a short field. I'm not positive but those 7 points were fairly important in a 6-point game. If you want to be mad about something in the 2016 season, be mad about Texas State and EMU beating us at home. Neither of those should have happened.



OCF--You are correct. I am totally responsible for us coming up a bit short of the W vs. WMU.

L.C.-- I've considered your question. I think it's close, but the team should probably not listen to those who protest the coaching, who question if we're able to get it done.

DFC--So, AFTER the tripping and the further deficit from the tripping resulting in, as you say, a huge whole and crucial 7 points in a 6 point loss., we should button down and not take a shot, not try to get the points back.

That makes no sense.

The odds of a turnover are a lot less than the odds of a turnover not happening.

The odds of making a first down on 3rd and 14 and the odds of scoring from deep in our territory with 36 seconds left in the half are long...but non-existent if you don't try.

Simply put, please spend less time all angered up and learn to count in terms of points and clock.



repeat all you want. Doesn't make it true. You're wrong here. Has nothing to do with the chances of a turnover vs a non-turnover. It's a high-risk, low reward situation to throw the ball there. It's not like there were 2.5 or 3 minutes. There were 36 seconds. Our defense needed to regroup and not be put in another bad situation. They took the half to adjust and crushed it. THAT is what gave us a chance in this game. So, blah blah blah, say the same thing again and again... ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRR... You can try to push more of your product to buy out Frank's contract. Kibble in bag! Get it done!
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