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Topic: RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Topic: RE: Pre-Season Magazines

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Fake Monroe
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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/28/2016 6:59:04 PM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

I want to reply but I really don't think the thread can move forward until we know Fake Monroe's opinion here. He really adds some spice!

Injuries are never ever an excuse; however, if we fire frank and hire a new coach, I'll let the new guy use that excuse for up to three years. Then if no MACC, can his ass.

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Bcat2
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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/28/2016 7:28:01 PM

Fake Monroe wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

I want to reply but I really don't think the thread can move forward until we know Fake Monroe's opinion here. He really adds some spice!

Ahhhh. Now the stars are ........

"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK

71 BOBCAT
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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/29/2016 9:54:14 AM

Just picked up my copy of Steele's College Preview.
He basically made mention numerous times about our injury bug and that could have been the cause for our not getting to the MACC. I definitely agree with this assessment.We have incurred this issue for at least the last 3 years. I am convinced that if our line backers were not out for those 3 mid season games last year our record would have been better and we could have possibly gotten to the MACC.
Let's hope that the injury bug does not hit us as hard.

GO BOBCATS

SBH
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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/29/2016 10:13:09 AM

Can anyone confirm that Sonny Sano no longer oversess strength and conditioning for the football program? I heard that was the case.

Last Edited: 6/29/2016 10:13:25 AM by SBH

GoCats105
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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/29/2016 10:21:05 AM

71 BOBCAT wrote:

We can blame injuries for a lot of things, but you can't blame injuries entirely on losses like this:

2015
WMU 14-49
Buffalo 17-41
BG 24-62

2014
BG 13-31
WMU 21-42

2013
Buffalo 3-30
BG 0-49
Kent State 13-44

These are BAD losses. No way one or two players makes up for 30+ points. I'm sorry I'm just not willing to put the majority of these losses on one specific thing like injuries. It's a whole bunch of factors. Why are people so afraid to admit that those teams were probably just better than Ohio?

Monroe Slavin
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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/29/2016 10:39:42 AM

Because when you are SFB and revere Solich and staff as wonderful and terrific, then you ignore the reality of the mediocrity.

Bcat2--immediately jump to the defense!!

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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/29/2016 11:05:50 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Because when you are SFB and revere Solich and staff as wonderful and terrific, then you ignore the reality of the mediocrity.

Just as you choose to ignore the below.

Head Coach Frank Solich
Alma Mater Nebraska, 1966
Record at Ohio 80-61, .567 (11th Year)
MAC Record 53-35, .600 (11th Year)
Career Record 138-80, .633 (17th Year)

MAC leading attendance 21,323 up 800 per game.

MAC Coaching Records
TOP 5 BY WINS
1. 110 Herb Deromedi, CMU
2. 108 Bill Hess, Ohio
3. 80 Frank Solich, Ohio
4. 79 Bob Pruett, Marshall
5. 77 Doyt Perry, BGSU

OHIO vs MAC Since 2009 (Credit to 71Bobcat)
W -L Record Bowl Eligibility
NIU 72-25 7
Ohio 57-35 7
Toledo 57-32 6
BG 50-42 5
CMU 45-44 4
WMU 39-48 4
Ball 39-47 2
Kent 35-50 1
Buffalo 30-54 1
Miami 24-62 1
Akron 24-61 1
EMU 15-69 0

2009-2015 for games against MAC teams with winning records: Thanks L.C.

NIU 16-8 .667
Toledo 11-16 .407
CMU 9-16 .360
Ohio 8-15 .348
BG 10-19 .345
WMU 6-19 .240
Ball St 7-23 .233
Kent 6-21 .222
Buffalo 3-23 .115
Miami 2-25 .074
Akron 1-23 .042
Temple 0-5 .000
UMass 0-13 .000
EMU 0-33 .000
Total 79-259 .234

In the last 41 years, Ohio University football has been to just nine bowl games, however seven of those bowl appearances have come during head coach Frank Solich�s 11 years in Athens.

1973-2004 2005-15
Seasons 32 11
Coaches 7 1
Wins Per Year 3.7 7.3
Record 119-228 80-61
Winning Seasons 7 7
Bowl Appearances 0 7
Bowl Wins 0 2

AMONG THE BEST IN THE MAC
Ohio�s 76 wins since 2006 are the second most victories by any school in the Mid-American Conference during that period. Northern Illinois is the only school that has more wins.
1. Northern Illinois - 87
2. Ohio - 76
3. Central Michigan - 70

2014 vs 2015 Wins 8 vs 6, up 33%. Quality wins vs 10-3 bowl winning Marshall, 8-5 bowl winning Akron & 8-5 MAC West Champion & bowl team NIU.

Statistics 2014 vs 2015.
Scoring. 2014 Ohio/OPP 246/298, 2015 Ohio/OPP 358/329.
Points Per Game. 2014 Ohio/OPP 20.5/24.8, 2015 Ohio/OPP 27.5/25.3
First Downs. 2014 Ohio/OPP 233/246, 2015 Ohio/OPP 285/248
Rushing Yards. 2014 Ohio/OPP 1969/1595, 2015 Ohio/OPP 2352/2147
Passing Yards. 2014 Ohio/OPP 2474/3137, 2015 Ohio/OPP 3026/2723
Total Offense. 2014 Ohio/OPP 4443/4732, 2015 Ohio/OPP 5378/4910
Fumbles-Lost. 2014 Ohio Fumbles/Lost 24/14, 2015 Ohio Fumbles/Lost 9/4
Time of Possession. 2014 Ohio/OPP 29:48/30:12, 2015 Ohio/OPP 32:15/27:44
First Half Scoring. 2014 Ohio/OPP 115/169. 2015 Ohio/OPP 214/139
Average Attendance. Ohio 2014/2015 20515/21323

2014 Ohio better than opponent: Rushing Yards

2015 Ohio better than opponent: Scoring, Points Per Game, First Downs, Rushing Yards, Passing Yards,Total Offense, Time of Possession, First Half Scoring.

In the past four seasons, the Bobcats have had 31 Academic All-MAC selections. He has also had two seasons where an Ohio player has been named a semifinalist for the Draddy Trophy, one of the most prestigious academic honors in college football. Academic success is nothing new for Solich�s teams. While head coach at Nebraska, almost 90 percent of his student-athletes earned their degree. Seven times Huskers earned first-team CoSIDA Academic All-America honors and on four other occasions, second-team honors were bestowed.

Last Edited: 6/29/2016 11:08:26 AM by Bcat2

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L.C.
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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/29/2016 12:51:18 PM

GoCats105 wrote:

...
We can blame injuries for a lot of things, but you can't blame injuries entirely on losses like this: ...

I've always differentiated between the late season games of 2012, and the down seasons in 2013-14. In 2012, what should have been a very, very good season was crushed by 19 season ending injuries. The team tried to hold on, and keep winning, but with most of the starters gone, or playing hurt, they just didn't have the firepower left. As for 2013-14, the main cause was the poor recruiting classes of 2010, and to a lesser extent, 2011. Injuries played a factor, too, as did the switch to a new defense.

The thing with recruiting is that there is about a three year lag between the problem, and when the fans see it, so the problem in 2010-2011 wasn't really visible to fans until 2013-2014. Similarly, when recruiting improved, there is also a lag of the same amount. Thus the strong recruiting classes of 2013-2016 will mean better teams from 2016-2019. Ohio is now beginning to ride the crest of those strong recruiting classes. The next three years should be a lot of fun.

Last Edited: 6/29/2016 2:44:06 PM by L.C.

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Monroe Slavin
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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/29/2016 4:11:28 PM

Bcat2 wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Because when you are SFB and revere Solich and staff as wonderful and terrific, then you ignore the reality of the mediocrity.

Some of those stats (# of wins at school) are merely a function of longevity.

How about this:

1) # of people and % of living OHIO alumni who were alive and remember the last time that OHIO won a MACC and

2) % of those years since we last won a MACC coached by Solich?

Fake me agrees with me.

Fake Monroe
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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/30/2016 12:31:50 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

. . . Fake me agrees with me.

+1

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The Optimist
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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/30/2016 8:08:55 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Bcat2 wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Because when you are SFB and revere Solich and staff as wonderful and terrific, then you ignore the reality of the mediocrity.

I was born in 1989

Pre-Solich Ohio Football in my lifetime (16 seasons)
2 winning seasons
13 losing seasons
1 .500 season
0 MAC East Championships
0 MAC Championships
0 bowl appearances
0 bowl wins

Solich-era Ohio Football in my lifetime (11 seasons)
7 winning seasons
2 losing seasons
2 .500 seasons
3 MAC Championships
0 MAC Championships
7 bowl appearances
2 bowl wins

How many weeks did we spend in the Top 25 before Solich?

I've seen crazier things happen.

71 BOBCAT
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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/30/2016 9:12:11 AM

Once again L.C. is very straight and to the point. During his time on this football page his insights are articulated very well and he is right on with this issue.

GO BOBCATS

Last Edited: 6/30/2016 9:12:44 AM by 71 BOBCAT

Monroe Slavin
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RE: Pre-Season Magazines

Posted: 6/30/2016 6:21:43 PM

The Optimist wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Bcat2 wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Because when you are SFB and revere Solich and staff as wonderful and terrific, then you ignore the reality of the mediocrity.

Improvement from THE WORST FOOTBALL EVER is not much of a standard. First, Grobe got us a fair amount back on track. Grobe. Then, Solich has been here 11 years. Okay, maybe give him 2-3 or so to right the ship. Then, where's the MACC over the long years since then. Why, instead, do we have recent years of stunning losses? Why?

Do not have minimal standards of quality.

That can cause fake me to go spastic with hashtagging.

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