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Bcat2
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  Message Not Read  RE: Pre-Season Magazines
   Posted: 6/21/2016 6:30:07 PM 
Defense Wins Championships

Phil Steele recognizes six Bobcats on his All MAC Defenses, 1st-4th Teams.

Sorry no link. Info from magazine. Not sure about reprinting more here. However, Steele giving good respect to Ohio's D.


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   Posted: 6/22/2016 10:11:17 AM 
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
Ohio might be the pick of MAC coaches. ESPN ran this article: http://espn.go.com/college-football/insider/story/_/id/16...

I'm not an Insider, so I can't read the full thing, but the teaser for it is: "How do MAC coaches think 2016 will go? Opposing coaches dish on why Ohio will be good (again), Kareem Hunt should hit 1,000 yards (again) and Western Michigan will throw it a lot (again)."


I saw this a while ago, and as most MAC stories on ESPN are, it was a bit disappointing. There's really very little to it. There's two comments from an opposing coach on each team (except Buffalo, which is excluded for some reason). It's nothing any Ohio fan didn't know already.

It states on Ohio:

Five players logged at least one rushing
TD last year, including three returning Bobcats. Coach, can you talk about how Ohio's offense gets everyone involved?

"They don't overpower you in one particular area, but they spread you out. Their QB runs, their running back runs ... they run a little option, they mix it up." -- MAC head coach

Ohio has never picked off fewer than 12 passes under Frank Solich, and it was one of 16 FBS teams that returned three interceptions for TDs in 2015. Coach, can you talk about the defense's ball-hawk nature?

"You better not lose the turnover battle [against the Bobcats]. They make one less mistake than your team makes." -- MAC head coach



I'm not sure, In summary of the other teams:
BG-Knapke is key because the MAC is QB-oriented. Defense was better than the numbers showed last year.
Miami- Defenses pressure QB Bahl because he can't run. D-lineman J.T. Jones has to be double-teamed a lot.
Kent State- Their offense had no big-play ability. Find one-on-one match-ups before DE Waugh can get to your QB.
Akron-Bring varying pressure to stop the run. Best D-line in the league last year but the rest of the defense doesn't return much.
WMU-Pick your poison based on down and distance to defend WMU. High risk, high reward on defense.
CMU-Put them in longer passing situations to eliminate big play-action plays. Run and use screens against strong secondary.
NIU-Mix it up on defense to stop NIU's offense. Pick your spots against CB Lurry, who had 9 INTs.
Toledo-Can't fill box against Hunt because too many playmakers at WR. Defense will adjust to significant loss of personnel.
Ball State-Kept it simple for QB Neal last year and he succeeded. Defense was awful but filled gaps and returns 9 starters.
EMU-Be physical with WR Daugherty. Defense returns 2 key DL who missed basically all of last year, so avoid going their direction.


Thanks. Reinforces my decision not to be an "Insider." Like most of the sports services these days, ESPN saves the in-depth stuff for the "P"5 schools and gives lip service to the G5ers.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Pre-Season Magazines
   Posted: 6/22/2016 10:18:19 AM 
Bcat2 wrote:
Defense Wins Championships

Phil Steele recognizes six Bobcats on his All MAC Defenses, 1st-4th Teams.

Sorry no link. Info from magazine. Not sure about reprinting more here. However, Steele giving good respect to Ohio's D.




Not sure 3rd or 4th team All-MAC means one is a notably good player. Miami has 8 guys mentioned--the same number on each team level (though not the same number on offense/defense).

Of course, to you and the other SFB this is better than actually winning a MAC title, better than actual achieved reality.



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  Message Not Read  RE: Pre-Season Magazines
   Posted: 6/22/2016 10:52:45 AM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
Defense Wins Championships

Phil Steele recognizes six Bobcats on his All MAC Defenses, 1st-4th Teams.

Sorry no link. Info from magazine. Not sure about reprinting more here. However, Steele giving good respect to Ohio's D.




Not sure 3rd or 4th team All-MAC means one is a notably good player. Miami has 8 guys mentioned--the same number on each team level (though not the same number on offense/defense).

Of course, to you and the other SFB this is better than actually winning a MAC title, better than actual achieved reality.




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  Message Not Read  RE: Pre-Season Magazines
   Posted: 6/22/2016 10:52:58 AM 
Fake Monroe wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
Defense Wins Championships

Phil Steele recognizes six Bobcats on his All MAC Defenses, 1st-4th Teams.

Sorry no link. Info from magazine. Not sure about reprinting more here. However, Steele giving good respect to Ohio's D.




Not sure 3rd or 4th team All-MAC means one is a notably good player. Miami has 8 guys mentioned--the same number on each team level (though not the same number on offense/defense).

Of course, to you and the other SFB this is better than actually winning a MAC title, better than actual achieved reality.




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  Message Not Read  RE: Pre-Season Magazines
   Posted: 6/22/2016 10:53:21 AM 
Fake Monroe wrote:
Fake Monroe wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
Defense Wins Championships

Phil Steele recognizes six Bobcats on his All MAC Defenses, 1st-4th Teams.

Sorry no link. Info from magazine. Not sure about reprinting more here. However, Steele giving good respect to Ohio's D.




Not sure 3rd or 4th team All-MAC means one is a notably good player. Miami has 8 guys mentioned--the same number on each team level (though not the same number on offense/defense).

Of course, to you and the other SFB this is better than actually winning a MAC title, better than actual achieved reality.




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  Message Not Read  RE: Pre-Season Magazines
   Posted: 6/22/2016 11:49:33 AM 
Fake Monroe wrote:
Fake Monroe wrote:
Fake Monroe wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
Defense Wins Championships

Phil Steele recognizes six Bobcats on his All MAC Defenses, 1st-4th Teams.

Sorry no link. Info from magazine. Not sure about reprinting more here. However, Steele giving good respect to Ohio's D.




Not sure 3rd or 4th team All-MAC means one is a notably good player. Miami has 8 guys mentioned--the same number on each team level (though not the same number on offense/defense).

Of course, to you and the other SFB this is better than actually winning a MAC title, better than actual achieved reality.




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Last Edited: 6/22/2016 11:51:01 AM by Bcat2


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   Posted: 6/23/2016 11:43:55 AM 
FWIW, the Orlando Sentinel is doing its countdown: http://interactive.orlandosentinel.com/college-football-c... /

Interestingly, only one MAC team in the bottom 10 (Fiami). Usually there are three or four. The MAC still has five in 100+.

Ohio will be in the top half of the ranking, ahead of teams such as NCSt, Navy, Duke, BYU and TxTech.


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  Message Not Read  three SEC teams, four PAC 12 teams, RE: Pre-Season Magazines
   Posted: 6/23/2016 1:01:03 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
FWIW, the Orlando Sentinel is doing its countdown: http://interactive.orlandosentinel.com/college-football-c... /

Interestingly, only one MAC team in the bottom 10 (Fiami). Usually there are three or four. The MAC still has five in 100+.

Ohio will be in the top half of the ranking, ahead of teams such as NCSt, Navy, Duke, BYU and TxTech.


So far I see three SEC teams, three Independent teams, four Big 12 teams, four PAC 12 teams, five Big Ten teams, six MAC teams, eight Mountain West teams, nine Sun Belt teams, nine C-USA teams, and thirteen ACC teams. You might draw conclusions about conferences or not.


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   Posted: 6/23/2016 1:10:31 PM 
Last season on June 25th Hustle Belt began a countdown of the top 70 players in the MAC. http://www.hustlebelt.com/mac-football/2015/6/22/8775249/... Not sure if they will be up to it again. Waiting patiently.


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  Message Not Read  RE: three SEC teams, four PAC 12 teams, RE: Pre-Season Magazines
   Posted: 6/23/2016 2:03:45 PM 
The Orlando Sentinel must be putting a lot of stock into schedule, because there's no way Ohio is better than BYU. But BYU is playing a ridiculous schedule this year, so yeah Ohio might end up with a better record after all is said and done.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-16/2016-byu-cougars-footb...
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  Message Not Read  RE: Pre-Season Magazines
   Posted: 6/24/2016 1:05:58 AM 
Fake Monroe wrote:
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
"They don't overpower you in one particular area, but they spread you out. Their QB runs, their running back runs ... they run a little option, they mix it up." -- MAC head coach


Who cares what these lameass coaches in this lameass league say. NO MACC since the old geezers on BA were in school. Not Acceptable.

UpSan Bobcat wrote:
Ohio has never picked off fewer than 12 passes under Frank Solich, and it was one of 16 FBS teams that returned three interceptions for TDs in 2015. Coach, can you talk about the defense's ball-hawk nature?

"You better not lose the turnover battle [against the Bobcats]. They make one less mistake than your team makes." -- MAC head coach


More of the same. With our conservative, Republican defense teams can pass at will against us, so use the math. Eighty zillion pass attempts a game -- most completed -- we're going pick off a few just by blind luck. No imagination in defensive schemes. Yes, L.C., says it's a new scheme, but it's just as sorry as the last one. This staff has no imagination. They are too damn conservative. They are probably all voting for Trump. Fire them all. NO MACC in almost half a century! Not asking too much. Stop worshipping at the altar of Solich. He's been a failure at every stop in his career. Blown out in National Championship Game at Nebraska. Blown out with regularity at OHIO. Get your OHIO on. Storm Peden with your pitchforks. Time to rise up and demand a MACC Now.

Our battlecry: "What we want? A MACC. When do we want it, NOW!"




I designate The Situation, who I've designated to write my autobiography, to write my response.

(Fake Me deserves a Fake Response.)






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   Posted: 6/26/2016 1:06:52 AM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Fake Monroe wrote:
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
"They don't overpower you in one particular area, but they spread you out. Their QB runs, their running back runs ... they run a little option, they mix it up." -- MAC head coach


Who cares what these lameass coaches in this lameass league say. NO MACC since the old geezers on BA were in school. Not Acceptable.

UpSan Bobcat wrote:
Ohio has never picked off fewer than 12 passes under Frank Solich, and it was one of 16 FBS teams that returned three interceptions for TDs in 2015. Coach, can you talk about the defense's ball-hawk nature?

"You better not lose the turnover battle [against the Bobcats]. They make one less mistake than your team makes." -- MAC head coach


More of the same. With our conservative, Republican defense teams can pass at will against us, so use the math. Eighty zillion pass attempts a game -- most completed -- we're going pick off a few just by blind luck. No imagination in defensive schemes. Yes, L.C., says it's a new scheme, but it's just as sorry as the last one. This staff has no imagination. They are too damn conservative. They are probably all voting for Trump. Fire them all. NO MACC in almost half a century! Not asking too much. Stop worshipping at the altar of Solich. He's been a failure at every stop in his career. Blown out in National Championship Game at Nebraska. Blown out with regularity at OHIO. Get your OHIO on. Storm Peden with your pitchforks. Time to rise up and demand a MACC Now.

Our battlecry: "What we want? A MACC. When do we want it, NOW!"




I designate The Situation, who I've designated to write my autobiography, to write my response.

(Fake Me deserves a Fake Response.)


The best man for that job would be Fake Jeff masquerading as Fake Situation. Or, maybe, just Fake L.C., if such a thing were even possible. In truth, and I'm the only objective one around here, what I said above is completely true. All of you Solich-loving slobs wouldn't recognize the truth if it hit you in the face. Did, I mention NO MACC since Bill Hess was coach?

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  Message Not Read  RE: Pre-Season Magazines
   Posted: 6/26/2016 3:08:08 AM 
boring


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  Message Not Read  RE: Pre-Season Magazines
   Posted: 6/27/2016 7:03:20 AM 
Pete Fiutak at CollegeFootballNews.com wrote the Ohio preview last week. It's pretty spot on with where I have been thinking. He's predicting an WMU-BG MAC title game with WMU taking it home.

http://collegefootballnews.com/2016/ohio-bobcats-football...

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   Posted: 6/27/2016 9:35:30 AM 
While I agree that overall this was a good article I do need to point out that there was no mention of all our injuries. In particular last season that caused our 3 mid-season losses was a major factor in not getting to the MACC and a 10 win season.
Other than this fact the article was right on.





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   Posted: 6/27/2016 9:48:19 AM 
71 BOBCAT wrote:
While I agree that overall this was a good article I do need to point out that there was no mention of all our injuries. In particular last season that caused our 3 mid-season losses was a major factor in not getting to the MACC and a 10 win season.
Other than this fact the article was right on.





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I'll agree with you about the injuries, but the three consecutive blowout losses to BG is what jumped out to me. Can't blame all of that on injuries can we? It's been a myriad of factors that led to those.

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   Posted: 6/27/2016 10:32:37 AM 
The Sentinel has us #61 overall and second in the MAC East (ahead of Buffalo, Akron, Kent and Fiami). http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/college-gri...

Behind BG, WMU, CMU, NIU and Toledo, though.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Pre-Season Magazines
   Posted: 6/27/2016 10:49:01 AM 
Pataskala wrote:
The Sentinel has us #61 overall and second in the MAC East (ahead of Buffalo, Akron, Kent and Fiami). http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/college-gri...

Behind BG, WMU, CMU, NIU and Toledo, though.


That seems to be pretty close to the consensus. BG won't be as good, but perhaps might still be better than anyone else in the East. A few have picked Ohio. Regardless, the West looks much stronger.
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   Posted: 6/27/2016 11:20:43 AM 
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
The Sentinel has us #61 overall and second in the MAC East (ahead of Buffalo, Akron, Kent and Fiami). http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/college-gri...

Behind BG, WMU, CMU, NIU and Toledo, though.


That seems to be pretty close to the consensus. BG won't be as good, but perhaps might still be better than anyone else in the East. A few have picked Ohio. Regardless, the West looks much stronger.


I think Steele has EMU fighting for bowl contention, if that says anything.

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   Posted: 6/27/2016 11:51:15 AM 
BG is #1 in OL Returning Career Starts with 140. Ohio is #63 with 61. Ohio needs the new starters to really step up.


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   Posted: 6/27/2016 12:02:36 PM 
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BG is #1 in OL Returning Career Starts with 140. Ohio is #63 with 61. Ohio needs the new starters to really step up.


The whole offense needs a boost really. I'll trust that Burrow can get it done on defense even with a new secondary. The D-Line and LB is experienced and talented enough to let those guys catch up. But the season hinges on the o-line and QB play.

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   Posted: 6/27/2016 12:27:15 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
BG is #1 in OL Returning Career Starts with 140. Ohio is #63 with 61. Ohio needs the new starters to really step up.


The whole offense needs a boost really. I'll trust that Burrow can get it done on defense even with a new secondary. The D-Line and LB is experienced and talented enough to let those guys catch up. But the season hinges on the o-line and QB play.

I totally agree. The defense is going to be stout up front, and the secondary will catch up. On offense, though, the question is, can the new guys pick up where last year's line left off, and even go one better? Wood and Watson return, and the new starter at Center, Pruehs is already proven. How will Lowery and Pleasants do at the critcal Left Tackle spot? How will Cooper and Anderson fare at left guard?

My thinking is that Johnson has been doing a far better job than Lightner at developing depth, and we're going to see that pay off in that there will be far less dropoff this year. The line showed a tremendous improvement from early season to the end of the season last year. I expect them to start strong, and just get better.

If I'm right about the line, the running backs will have a field day, and the offense will be very good. If I'm wrong, it will be a disappointing season. We should get a pretty good idea of which it will be by the Tennessee game.


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   Posted: 6/28/2016 4:15:43 AM 
71 BOBCAT wrote:
While I agree that overall this was a good article I do need to point out that there was no mention of all our injuries. In particular last season that caused our 3 mid-season losses was a major factor in not getting to the MACC and a 10 win season.
Other than this fact the article was right on.





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Injuries as an excuse--I hope that's not acceptable to you. Injuries always happen, all teams have them. Developing depth is some counter to this. At any rate, for a staff that's been here 11 years, that card don't carry no weight no more.

Three successive blowouts to BG --that's attributable to injuries? I highly doubt it.

Whoopee. On a sched that annually carries 3-6 true patsies, we're consistently able to finish above .500. Whoopee.


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I want to reply but I really don't think the thread can move forward until we know Fake Monroe's opinion here. He really adds some spice!
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