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Topic: RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Topic: RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

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ou79
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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 8:38:59 AM

Joe, Greg Cook did play in Peden, but the game you are thinking of occurred on November 16, 1968 in Nippert Stadium. Ohio won the game, but what a shoot-out. Final score was 60-48.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 9:11:25 AM

I agree that for one day, it had to be Goddard.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 10:32:35 AM

Joe McKinley wrote:

Did UC's Greg Cook play in Peden? I know the Bobcats and Bearcats had a shootout and I think Cleve Bryant and he put up big numbers. I don't know if that was in Athens, though.

The shootout game was in Nippert.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 10:45:59 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

Chuck Ealey, different era, but the man had serious game, and it's a travesty that he can never be in the College Football Hall of Fame.

Why can't he ever be in CFHF? I don't know of any off-the-field issues that would keep him out. Don't they sometimes go back and vote in players that were overlooked earlier? In his case, I would think that a reconsideration would be most appropriate because it is somewhat clear that his race was a factor in his not getting in "back in the day." He was, along with our own Cleve, a trailblazer, as not many blacks were playing QB at that time, and there was still some level of prejudice against African American QBs.

[Side note: Just a reminder that back in 1903-4, OHIO had what may have been the very first African American QB at a predominantly white university in one Arthur Carr, who later distinguished himself as medical professor at Howard University. This really needs to be recognized in some significant way. I have proposed a banner in Peden that would match in style the ones already there.]

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 10:46:52 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

Chuck Ealey, different era, but the man had serious game, and it's a travesty that he can never be in the College Football Hall of Fame.

Why? Gambling issue?

Didn't Toledo win some 35 straight with Ealey at QB?

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 10:58:45 AM

Gary Hogeboom, Central Michigan, played QB for Cowboys, Colts and Cards in the 80s.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 11:28:34 AM

I think Chuck Ealey's problem is that he played pro ball in the CFL not NFL. He was a class act and I met him when I was visiting friends in Portsmouth many moons ago. He was the quarterback for tiny Portsmouth Notre Dame High School before his stunning career at Toledo.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 11:51:42 AM

To be a member of the College Football Hall of Fame you have to have been on a "Major" 1st Team All-American honor. Chuck never received such an honor, so the only 3 year undefeated QB in College Football history is not even eligible for the ballot. Chuck was a Football News AA team, but they were not an accredited list.

So Chuck is forever barred from the ballot. There have been many efforts, and petitions, it's never went anywhere. Maybe some day? After all Drew Bree's is also ineligible.

And Chuck is a great guy, we played for the same High School Coach, you couldn't help but be of strong character coming from Coach Miller.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 11:53:39 AM

BSJ73 wrote:

ND was not that tiny back then, and neither was Portsmouth.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 12:38:36 PM

Seneca Wallace

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 2:06:27 PM

Pete Chouteau wrote:

Seneca Wallace

This is the one I was thinking of in my fairly recent memory.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 3:27:28 PM

SouthernCat wrote:

I don't think Randy Moss ever played in Peden. My vote goes for my first game when I saw Jason Taylor of Akron look pretty good. We won the game easy, but he was a factor.

Jason Taylor - good call. Missed it on Moss. I could have sworn he was in Peden once. Leftwich was though, and I'll stick by his name on the list. Outstanding QB, better competitor.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 3:44:31 PM

This is a fun diversion.

I'm glad someone else said Jonathan Goddard. He was a beast that day.

I assume it is Ben Rothlesburger. QB rules the world and he has to be the best one in terms of overall career. No?

(It is not Tyler Palko. That made me laugh. Sorry Uncle Wes.)

The best non-Bobcat coach is Urban Meyer when he was at BG, no?

Last Edited: 1/15/2016 3:45:25 PM by Ohio69

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 4:25:03 PM

Good thread:

Brandon Marshall was a freshman DB at UCF when we beat them 28-0 at Peden.

ECU QB David Garrard had a nice game in a 17-14 win.

Marion Barber III (and Laurence Maroney) ran all over us for Minnesota. TE Matt Spaeth was also on that team.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 4:34:12 PM

Ohio69 wrote:

This is a fun diversion.

The best non-Bobcat coach is Urban Meyer when he was at BG, no?

Woody or Bo?

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 5:26:40 PM

Two type of answers: Best player - e.g., Big Ben, Moss - that went on to show how good they are. Best performance: which play had the most dominating performance at Pedan?

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 6:13:02 PM

Ohio69 wrote:

..

(It is not Tyler Palko. That made me laugh. Sorry Uncle Wes.)
..

It is Palko if the question is amended by adding to the end of it "... and help Ohio to victory"

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/15/2016 6:17:40 PM

OCF,

I thought I'd share this with you, as I know you will find it interesting.

http://www.toledoblade.com/UT/2010/07/11/Undefeated-UT-qu...

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/16/2016 8:52:54 AM

MedinaCat wrote:

Ohio69 wrote:

This is a fun diversion.

The best non-Bobcat coach is Urban Meyer when he was at BG, no?

Woody or Bo?

I always forget they coached at Miami. Hard to beat Hayes 5 national championships and 13 Big 10 titles. Don't think Bo ever ended a season ranked #1.

So I gotta change it to Woody....if he actually was a head coached in Peden.

Last Edited: 1/16/2016 8:55:24 AM by Ohio69

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/16/2016 10:34:43 AM

Ohio69 wrote:

MedinaCat wrote:

Ohio69 wrote:

This is a fun diversion.

The best non-Bobcat coach is Urban Meyer when he was at BG, no?

Woody or Bo?

Woody coached in Peden

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/16/2016 10:54:25 AM

L.C. wrote:

Ohio69 wrote:

..

(It is not Tyler Palko. That made me laugh. Sorry Uncle Wes.)
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It is Palko if the question is amended by adding to the end of it "... and help Ohio to victory"

I'm interpreting the exercise as who was the highest profile college player to play in Peden not the best NFL standout. Great MAC players don't count because they aren't nationally elite players. When Pitt had Larry Fitzgerald they were all over ESPN and Palko was talked about in the media like a Notre Dame quarterback. That is why the Pitt game was so big on many levels with national implications. It was a small snapshot in time where Pitt was on the rise then WVU had the mantle with Slaton & White which is why they were able to get into the Big XII.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/16/2016 11:59:01 AM

Uncle Wes wrote:

L.C. wrote:

Ohio69 wrote:

..

(It is not Tyler Palko. That made me laugh. Sorry Uncle Wes.)
..

It is Palko if the question is amended by adding to the end of it "... and help Ohio to victory"

Fitzgerald did not play in Peden either.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/16/2016 2:11:57 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

OCF,

I thought I'd share this with you, as I know you will find it interesting.

http://www.toledoblade.com/UT/2010/07/11/Undefeated-UT-qu...

Thanks, that's a great article. Here are just a few quotes from it, for those who don't click the link and read the whole article, that will give you a sense of the level of injustice involved in this case:

"Jack Taylor is an associate professor emeritus of ethnic studies at Bowling Green State University, and a former college athlete from the same period.

"He said that because black quarterbacks were very rare at the time, race might have played a role in Ealey being left off some All-American teams.

"'Given the climate at that time, it is certainly something to be considered,' Mr. Taylor said. 'You have to wonder if some voters just did not name Chuck Ealey because they were not ready to accept the fact that a black could play the position, and play it extremely well.'

"Because most of the electorate on those All-American panels from nearly a half century ago are deceased, that uncomfortable question will persist.

"There are a number of black quarterbacks in the College Football Hall of Fame - Major Harris, Andre Ware, Charlie Ward - but had Ealey been eligible for consideration and voted in, he would have been the Hall of Fame's first black quarterback. That distinction belongs to Doug Williams, who played at Grambling, a historically black college, from 1974-77 and was voted into the hall in 2001."

And then this, which I think really is a clincher of an argument:

"'If you put in place a rule that says that every guy who goes undefeated as a starting quarterback for three straight seasons will be considered for the hall, I don't think you'd open the floodgates,' Mr. Taylor said. 'I think there would be one guy - Chuck Ealey.'"

I surely hope that this injustice get rectified while Chuck is still on this side of the sod.

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/16/2016 2:23:42 PM

Remember watching Chuck play and always enjoyed Coach Miller's stories

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RE: Who was the best non-Bobcat player to play at Peden?

Posted: 1/16/2016 2:53:56 PM

Toledo was literally undefeated for 3 straight seasons, including 3 Tangerine Bowl victories in Orlando. The attendance at Toledo home games was sold out during that time period. They put together 35 straight victories and were featured nationally.

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