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He's got things improving again after a rough two years. Watch out MACC here we come! Contrary to what some on here say, I think our talent will prove over the next three years to be the best in the MAC. I'm not talking about the about the number of rating-service stars coming in, but the talent shown on the playing field and the talent recruited by the NFL after their college careers are over. I suspect, for instance, that Basham, Poling, Blair and Cope may be NFL draft material in the future -- just to name a few. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Casper71 General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Post Count: 2,895 Status: Offline     RE: Change    Posted: 11/27/2014 12:39:33 AM  OCF, I am with you on this one...BUT: We need to have a quality QB. Just like the NFL it all starts and ends there. For us, when TT and Vick have been healthy we have been fine. I must say, I don't like this offense because over the last few years too often our QB is not healthy. I don't remember this with Everson, Bowser, Theo or Boo. One other item of note...maybe i missed it previously or maybe we didn't do it but #82 was the lead blocker a lot vs Miami. And, it looked like we took a book from the Belichek playbook by giving him great angles to block people. So, you don't have to have a 2 back set if you do that kind of thing! All in all, I'd rather be running a Pro Style offense to keep the QB healthy. Maybe that is what Duckworth will bring us...if he can play! We'll see. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Change    Posted: 11/27/2014 10:32:17 AM  I agree, Casper, that I'm not crazy about our QB situation. I think Vick and Sprague can improve and be OK QBs, but I'd really like to see a bigger QB with more passing ability. We've had NFL-caliber QBs in the MAC -- Pennington, Big Ben, Leftwich, Frye, Batch, etc. Why not OHIO? Note that this is the third time we've agreed on something in the last 48 hours. Is the Apocalypse approaching? ;-) The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,068 Status: Offline     RE: Change    Posted: 11/27/2014 10:58:22 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: ...I'd really like to see a bigger QB with more passing ability. ... The QB's, and the class they will be next year Vick 6-1 195 RSr Sprague 6-1 200 RJr Windham 6-1 214 RJr Maxwell 6-3 215 Fr Duckworth 6-3 215 RFr Both Duckworth and Maxwell are NFL sized QBs. Windham appears to be a better passer than Vick or Sprague, but missed a lot of time due to off the field issues, and is behind them as a result. The way I see it, both Vick and Sprague will be significantly better next year than they were this year, with another year of experience. If one of the others can improve enough to take the job from them, so much the better. Either way the QB play will be improved next year. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Change    Posted: 11/27/2014 11:47:13 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: I agree, Casper, that I'm not crazy about our QB situation. I think Vick and Sprague can improve and be OK QBs, but I'd really like to see a bigger QB with more passing ability. We've had NFL-caliber QBs in the MAC -- Pennington, Big Ben, Leftwich, Frye, Batch, etc. Why not OHIO? Note that this is the third time we've agreed on something in the last 48 hours. Is the Apocalypse approaching? ;-) Well, so far Solich's staff has provided a succession of QBs who, according to the record book, have provided Ohio the best play on record. Scott, Jackson and Tettleton 3, 2, 1 in career completion percentage. Same group 2008-2013 have provided seasons 1-6 in the record book for TDs per season. 28, 21, 20, 19, 18 and 18. The 2014 team total is only 11. Eleven is below Ohio's recent standard and that is obvious. I expected we would miss Gdowski, but, not this much. Coach Isphording needs to get busy. Gdowski might become available again shortly. I would take him back in a heartbeat. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,068 Status: Offline     RE: Change    Posted: 11/27/2014 12:42:53 PM  It's not really fair to compare the QB's of today, running the spread, with the QB's running other, prior offenses, such as the triple option. A better comparison would be just to compare overall offensive output. This year was clearly not up to the prior few years. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Change    Posted: 11/27/2014 1:03:20 PM  L.C. wrote: It's not really fair to compare the QB's of today, running the spread, with the QB's running other, prior offenses, such as the triple option. A better comparison would be just to compare overall offensive output. This year was clearly not up to the prior few years. Clearly, hence the comparison of 11 TDs to the recent six year standard of 18 or better. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top Casper71 General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Post Count: 2,895 Status: Offline     RE: Change    Posted: 11/27/2014 4:33:01 PM  OCF this team did better than I thought they would. Played hard and never gave up. I really thought kent and Miami would beat us. Better qb play will pay dividends next year. Hopefully everything else is in place. Back to Top Diamond Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 808 Status: Offline     RE: Change    Posted: 11/28/2014 8:58:00 PM  I have to say the QB position continues to amaze me. It's no shot to our own guys but I see so many teams (good and bad) that find a way to get pretty solid QB talent. It's been talked about many times on this board but how do we continue to not land a game changing QB with a big arm? It looks like there are more than enough out there. Next year I would bank on Frank giving the nod to the upper classman. That seems to be his stance. It's not an unusual approach or belief. It happens in all sports at every level. Vick and Sprague have had tons of game reps to improve and they are getting better. I would hope we get a bowl game just to make sure these young men get even more practice time and reps. Is there some doubt Duckworth cannot stay healthy? He seemed to be more of a traditional strong armed pocket QB that other MAC Teams have over us. Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Change    Posted: 11/28/2014 9:40:04 PM  Diamond Cat wrote: I have to say the QB position continues to amaze me. It's no shot to our own guys but I see so many teams (good and bad) that find a way to get pretty solid QB talent. It's been talked about many times on this board but how do we continue to not land a game changing QB with a big arm? It looks like there are more than enough out there. Next year I would bank on Frank giving the nod to the upper classman. That seems to be his stance. It's not an unusual approach or belief. It happens in all sports at every level. Vick and Sprague have had tons of game reps to improve and they are getting better. I would hope we get a bowl game just to make sure these young men get even more practice time and reps. Is there some doubt Duckworth cannot stay healthy? He seemed to be more of a traditional strong armed pocket QB that other MAC Teams have over us. "It's no shot to our own guys but.... a traditional strong armed pocket QB that other MAC Teams have over us." Diamond Cat. A traditional strong armed pocket QB that Ohio has been missing for the pro-style offense it runs? "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top Showing Replies:   26 - 35  of 35 Posts Jump to Page:   < Previous    1 | 2 View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 176 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 176 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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