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Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 1:32:45 PM  As critical as I am, it would seem crazy not to accept a bowl bid--at least purely from a building the program and gaining experience point of view. Financially benefit (gain/loss) might be a different story. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top UpSan Bobcat General User Member Since: 8/30/2005 Location: Upper Sandusky, OH Post Count: 3,792 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 1:41:16 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Two regular posters on this site reported last week, before the Miami game, that they had "inside sources" in the Athletic Department who told them that we were not going to accept an invitation if offered. If that's the case, it would seem to me that's why ESPN does not have us projected for any bowls because they know the inside story, as they own many of these bowls, and the other sites are assuming we'd accept if offered. I personally hope these "insider sources" don't know what they are talking about and that we are offered and accept. However, I'm fearful they are correct. I don't think the ESPN guys have any of that info. Even if Ohio was leaning that way, which I don't think would be the case, I don't think they'd pass that info on to ESPN. I think the ESPN guys are just lazy in making their predictions and just fill in teams without looking at what the secondary agreements are. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 1:55:52 PM  Total # eligible vs. Total # slots is not the right way to look at it. You have to first understand how many slots each conference has. That isn't clear because in some cases the Big Ten shares a spot with the ACC so you don't know exactly who is going. Notre Dame is part of the ACC bowl package so for all intents they are a 12th bowl eligible school. For counting the slots I used the info from the College Football Poll which shows a few either or situations. Then you subtract out the schools that are projecting into a New Year's game to get a true sense at how many openings there are system wide. The first number I list is how many slots the conference has and the second number is how many are eligible. Then I list the participants in the New Year's bowls after that with the asterisk teams getting at-large spots. I'm not including Old Dominion, Appalachian State or Georgia Southern in transitional years as eligible. This list will have to be update when the next CFP Poll comes out but its pretty close now as to where the openings will be. http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_games_bowl_schedu... 11 ACC (12)- Florida State 10 SEC (12)- Alabama, *Miss St, *Georgia 10 B-Ten (10)- Ohio St, *Michigan St 8 CUSA (6)- 7 PAC-12 (8)- Oregon, *UCLA, *Arizona 7 B-XII (6)- TCU, *Baylor 5 MWC (7)- *Boise St 5 MAC (6)- 5 AAC (5)- 3 SBC (4)- 3 Indy (2)- Favored for 6-6 AAC (Temple) Extra Schools ACC (1) MWC (1) MAC (1) SBC (1) Openings B-XII (2) CUSA (2) PAC-12 (1) B-Ten (1) Bowl Pairings Cactus (Pittsburgh vs. Fresno St) New Mexico (Ohio vs. Nevada) Heart of Dallas (Texas St vs. Temple) My logic on the bowl pairings. The Cactus is a low pick for both the B-XII and PAC-12 so they both vacate that game. Its an attractive Jan 2nd time slot so I see Pitt aiming for it. The Armed Forces bowl is American vs. CUSA or Army. Its an American slot so I see them sending Houston there, Army is not eligible but CUSA which has to openings has to pick and choose what its going to fill. I expect CUSA will choose to fill the Armed Forces with Rice and leave the Heart of Dallas open with no B-XII or B-Ten team on the opposite side. That means the Heart of Dallas then goes to two at-large teams and I'm penciling in Texas St and Temple here. Ohio I see taking the other CUSA opening in the New Mexico Bowl as the MAC is contracted as a backup. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top NashvilleKat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Nashville, TN Post Count: 90 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 1:56:48 PM  First of all, I hope we go to a bowl. It's good PR to say we've been to 6 bowls in a row. Secondly, while we aren't a good team, we seemed to play better at the end of the season. We don't have that many seniors, and more practices and another game can only help. Also, we do have a secondary agreement with the ESPN owned bowls, and maybe that will get us to Fort Worth. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,067 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 1:58:10 PM  Monroe Slavin wrote: As critical as I am, it would seem crazy not to accept a bowl bid--at least purely from a building the program and gaining experience point of view. Financially benefit (gain/loss) might be a different story. It seems to me that typically Ohio has lost $100k or so on each bowl. I'm not sure how to value the advertising that a school gets from a bowl, but I'd guess >$1m, so it seems to me that the benefit would outweigh the cost. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 1:59:41 PM  UpSan Bobcat wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: Two regular posters on this site reported last week, before the Miami game, that they had "inside sources" in the Athletic Department who told them that we were not going to accept an invitation if offered. If that's the case, it would seem to me that's why ESPN does not have us projected for any bowls because they know the inside story, as they own many of these bowls, and the other sites are assuming we'd accept if offered. I personally hope these "insider sources" don't know what they are talking about and that we are offered and accept. However, I'm fearful they are correct. I don't think the ESPN guys have any of that info. Even if Ohio was leaning that way, which I don't think would be the case, I don't think they'd pass that info on to ESPN. I think the ESPN guys are just lazy in making their predictions and just fill in teams without looking at what the secondary agreements are. Do you remember during the Buffalo telecast how it was said that Ohio thought it needed to hit 7 wins to earn a bowl? They were thinking I bet one of the 5 MAC tie-ins. There is no doubt that Ohio will accept a bowl finishing 6-6 after a strong month of November. Had Vick been healthy this team could have won 8 games. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 2:10:36 PM  NashvilleKat wrote: First of all, I hope we go to a bowl. It's good PR to say we've been to 6 bowls in a row. Secondly, while we aren't a good team, we seemed to play better at the end of the season. We don't have that many seniors, and more practices and another game can only help. Also, we do have a secondary agreement with the ESPN owned bowls, and maybe that will get us to Fort Worth. The main backup agreements are for San Diego and Detroit. They are both projecting to be filled. The secondaries are for New Mexico, St. Pete and Birmingham. Armed Forces bowl in Ft. Worth is AAC vs. CUSA #3. The AAC isn't short of any bowl eligible teams so they'll have to field a team there. Houston I see playing in that game for the AAC and Rice from CUSA. Heart of Dallas open on both sides so its make a match there. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top C Money General User Member Since: 8/28/2010 Post Count: 3,420 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 3:15:32 PM  We can probably eliminate UAB from the list of teams possibly going to a bowl: https://twitter.com/ThayerEvansSI/status/539148723050131456 Back to Top Turdhats General User Member Since: 12/19/2006 Location: Circleville, OH Post Count: 48 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 6:16:50 PM  Turn down. How many home games did we buy for the CIT? Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,152 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 7:21:05 PM  At the moment there are four too many eligible teams (80 vs 76 bowl slots), not counting Ga Southern and Appy St. CUSA, MAC and Sun Belt all have more eligible teams than slots. My guess is that the first four out will likely be South Bama, UAB, ODU and Ohio, maybe in that order. Could be others gone next week depending how Temps and Okla St do. Ohio might have a chance if Fresno loses to Boise in the MWCCG; they would be 6-7 and might need a waiver to get into a bowl. The MWC has six bids and six eligible teams (assuming the committee puts Boise in a New Year's bowl). A Fresno loss next week could open another spot. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Bobcat1995 General User Member Since: 12/4/2010 Location: Orlando, FL Post Count: 37 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 8:00:48 PM  Pataskala wrote: My guess is that the first four out will likely be South Bama, UAB, ODU and Ohio, maybe in that order. Could be others gone next week depending how Temps and Okla St do. If Temple and Oklahoma State lose next weekend, do you think that puts us in a bowl game? Would we be more attractive than MTSU? Back to Top Victory General User Member Since: 3/10/2012 Post Count: 1,881 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 8:50:52 PM  I think the NCAA has declared 6-7 as a result of losing a championship game as eligible without needing a waiver. I am of the opinion that the Pittsburgh upset of Miami sealed Ohio's fate. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 8:51:50 PM  Pataskala wrote: At the moment there are four too many eligible teams (80 vs 76 bowl slots), not counting Ga Southern and Appy St. CUSA, MAC and Sun Belt all have more eligible teams than slots. My guess is that the first four out will likely be South Bama, UAB, ODU and Ohio, maybe in that order. Could be others gone next week depending how Temps and Okla St do. Ohio might have a chance if Fresno loses to Boise in the MWCCG; they would be 6-7 and might need a waiver to get into a bowl. The MWC has six bids and six eligible teams (assuming the committee puts Boise in a New Year's bowl). A Fresno loss next week could open another spot. My count has 78 bowl eligible removing ODU, Ga Southern and App St. Fresno playing Boise in the championship game means they won't be eligible either. We shouldn't have a problem as a backup conference to the ESPN hosted games. It will be more of a problem for Texas State and Temple if they get eligible to be placed. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,152 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 8:54:37 PM  Bobcat1995 wrote: Pataskala wrote: My guess is that the first four out will likely be South Bama, UAB, ODU and Ohio, maybe in that order. Could be others gone next week depending how Temps and Okla St do. If Temple and Oklahoma State lose next weekend, do you think that puts us in a bowl game? Would we be more attractive than MTSU? Probably not. If they go down, their conferences' open spots would likely be filled by Big Tenfinity and ACC teams. That would leave five teams for the Armed Forces Bowl spot vacated by Army -- SBama, UAB, ODU, MTSU and Ohio. None of the five would likely sell a lot of tickets, but MTSU scores a lot of points and gives up a lot of points so they might be more entertaining. Plus I doubt they'd reject all three CUSA teams, especially since CUSA has a better rep this year than the MAC. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,152 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 9:41:01 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: Pataskala wrote: At the moment there are four too many eligible teams (80 vs 76 bowl slots), not counting Ga Southern and Appy St. CUSA, MAC and Sun Belt all have more eligible teams than slots. My guess is that the first four out will likely be South Bama, UAB, ODU and Ohio, maybe in that order. Could be others gone next week depending how Temps and Okla St do. Ohio might have a chance if Fresno loses to Boise in the MWCCG; they would be 6-7 and might need a waiver to get into a bowl. The MWC has six bids and six eligible teams (assuming the committee puts Boise in a New Year's bowl). A Fresno loss next week could open another spot. My count has 78 bowl eligible removing ODU, Ga Southern and App St. Fresno playing Boise in the championship game means they won't be eligible either. We shouldn't have a problem as a backup conference to the ESPN hosted games. It will be more of a problem for Texas State and Temple if they get eligible to be placed. ESPN agrees with you but they don't count Fresno. (http://espn.go.com/college-football/standings) According to NBC, the MWC has amended its rules to guarantee a spot for a 6-6 division champ that becomes 6-7 by losing its conference championship game. (http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/30/no-va.../) Plus, in the past the NCAA has allowed teams that become 6-7 because they lost a conference championship game to get bowl bids, especially if the conference needs it to fill bowl commitments. With Boise likely to get a selection committee slot, that will probably be the case. So Fresno should be in win or lose next week. I also counted ODU not realizing they're still in transition, but they were among the first I tossed anyway. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top bobcat28 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: United States Post Count: 795 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 9:58:59 PM  Its pretty simple at this point. Assuming Temple wins, one of these 6-6 teams goes to a bowl, the others are left out. south alabama ohio temple mtsu uab Temple wins, they are most likely in. They lose and it probably comes down to us and mtsu for the last spot. If Oklahoma St wins everyone on that list is out. Last Edited: 11/30/2014 10:00:01 PM by bobcat28 Back to Top MonroeClassmate General User Member Since: 8/31/2010 Post Count: 2,005 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 10:00:08 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: There is no doubt that Ohio will accept a bowl finishing 6-6 after a strong month of November. Had Vick been healthy this team could have won 8 games. Which other two smack downs would OHIO have won? Marshall, Kentucky, BGSU, Central, Western, or Northern? Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 10:31:38 PM  MonroeClassmate wrote: Uncle Wes wrote: There is no doubt that Ohio will accept a bowl finishing 6-6 after a strong month of November. Had Vick been healthy this team could have won 8 games. Which other two smack downs would OHIO have won? Marshall, Kentucky, BGSU, Central, Western, or Northern? I'll say they could have won BGSU and Central. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,152 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 10:32:52 PM  bobcat28 wrote: Its pretty simple at this point. Assuming Temple wins, one of these 6-6 teams goes to a bowl, the others are left out. south alabama ohio temple mtsu uab Temple wins, they are most likely in. They lose and it probably comes down to us and mtsu for the last spot. If Oklahoma St wins everyone on that list is out. If Temps wins, they're definitely in. The AAC has six bowl spots and only five bowl eligible teams at the moment. They would be the sixth. Funny thing about their opponent, Tulane. The Green Wave is 3-8. They've won every third game this season -- they lost their first two, won the third; then lost two, won one; lost two, won one, and lost their last two. They seem to be due for a win. Two of their wins have been over bowl-eligible Houston and a very good 1AA team, Southeast Louisiana (9-3), who come to Peden next year. Last Edited: 11/30/2014 10:34:15 PM by Pataskala We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 10:41:10 PM  bobcat28 wrote: Its pretty simple at this point. Assuming Temple wins, one of these 6-6 teams goes to a bowl, the others are left out. south alabama ohio temple mtsu uab Temple wins, they are most likely in. They lose and it probably comes down to us and mtsu for the last spot. If Oklahoma St wins everyone on that list is out. CUSA has 8 bowl slots this year and only 6 are eligible. What that means is all those CUSA schools are in, UAB too if they have a team next week. The slots for the Sun Belt should go to Louisiana-Lafayette, Arkansas State and Texas State all with winning records so that would have South Alabama looking. I was thinking an Ohio vs. Temple bowl in Dallas as to former rivals but thought Texas State would be in there as an at-large team. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 11/30/2014 10:52:01 PM  Pataskala wrote: bobcat28 wrote: Its pretty simple at this point. Assuming Temple wins, one of these 6-6 teams goes to a bowl, the others are left out. south alabama ohio temple mtsu uab Temple wins, they are most likely in. They lose and it probably comes down to us and mtsu for the last spot. If Oklahoma St wins everyone on that list is out. If Temps wins, they're definitely in. The AAC has six bowl spots and only five bowl eligible teams at the moment. They would be the sixth. The AAC only has 5 slots this year. I know its hard to get accurate information on conference slots because of all the split bowls. The next playoff rankings will change the open slots again. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Casper71 General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Post Count: 2,895 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 12/1/2014 10:01:24 AM  Per CBS Sports/Jerry Palm this morning: Armed Forces Bowl Jan. 2 Fort Worth, Tex. American vs. Army Houston vs. Ohio+ Back to Top davepi2 General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: columbus, OH Post Count: 581 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 12/1/2014 10:21:59 AM  Hmmm, maybe I'll have to take a run down to cincy this weekend to see what Houston looks like. Back to Top Steve General User Member Since: 12/1/2005 Post Count: 705 Status: Offline     RE: The Chase for Bowl Eligibility    Posted: 12/1/2014 2:34:56 PM  One of the best defenses in the country, I do believe. Back to Top Showing Replies:   201 - 225  of 271 Posts Jump to Page:   < Previous    1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11    Next > View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 98 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 98 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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