BobcatAttack.com - For Fans of Ohio University Sports

Welcome Guest!
Create an Account

site search

where to watch

about us

advertise with us

help

BobcatAttack.com Message Board

Ohio Football

Topic: RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Topic: RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Author

Message

OUcats82
General User

Member Since: 1/9/2005
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Post Count: 1,829

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/18/2014 11:48:38 AM

RSBobcat wrote:

Pataskala wrote:

RSBobcat wrote:

BigRed89 wrote:

I wish I was coming..

And your thoughts about the game?.................

Bah-dum-pah

And there will be inflatables.........

I hope we really inflate our positive offensive numbers in this game and deflate our negative defensive stats to date.

Ohio-The State University

C Money
General User

Member Since: 8/28/2010
Post Count: 3,420

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/18/2014 8:43:15 PM

Any word on Landon Smith? I haven't seen him on any injured list, but it was mentioned he was in street clothes the 2nd half last week.

Pataskala
General User

Member Since: 7/8/2010
Location: At least six feet away from anybody else
Post Count: 9,154

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/19/2014 8:13:39 PM

Not sure how much this means, but Idaho hasn't won a road game since 2011 when they won at San Jose St and hasn't won east of the Mississippi since 2010 at WMU. Given the malaise of our offense the last two games, this could be tougher than we expected three weeks ago. The key point tomorrow will be for our offense to take advantage of their porous defense.

We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

perimeterpost
General User

Member Since: 7/6/2010
Post Count: 3,165

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/19/2014 9:05:34 PM

interesting stat through 3 games-

Scoring by Quarter (Q1-Q2-Q3-Q4-Total)

OHIO 07-07-10-10-34
Opp. 38-13-17-10-78

We are losing games in the first quarter, a strong start will be critical vs Idaho.

MY STATE. MY TEAM.

L.C.
General User

Member Since: 8/31/2005
Location: United States
Post Count: 10,073

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/20/2014 9:14:55 AM

I wonder if we won't see someone else returning kickoffs, say Robbie Walker, instead of Devin Bass, to keep Bass fresher for defense.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

LuckySparrow
General User

Member Since: 10/15/2012
Location: Illinois
Post Count: 1,722

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/20/2014 3:07:26 PM

L.C. wrote:

I wonder if we won't see someone else returning kickoffs, say Robbie Walker, instead of Devin Bass, to keep Bass fresher for defense.

I always like this type of idea, I always cringe when starters return punts.

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

L.C.
General User

Member Since: 8/31/2005
Location: United States
Post Count: 10,073

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/20/2014 6:07:02 PM

paul petrino wrote:

It's another road trip to the end of the world.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

LuckySparrow
General User

Member Since: 10/15/2012
Location: Illinois
Post Count: 1,722

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/20/2014 6:17:05 PM

No Landon Smith tonight (wrist), per Arkley.

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

L.C.
General User

Member Since: 8/31/2005
Location: United States
Post Count: 10,073

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/20/2014 6:22:50 PM

Looking at the Idaho stats, their QB has run the ball 24 times on the year for -21 yards. Thus, I presume most weren't called runs. Based on that, it appears that Idaho calls about 70% passes, 30% runs. They average 7.8 yards/pass, which is good, but on 2.4 yards/rush, which is terrible. Even if you remove the QB runs, they only average 4.1 yards a rush. The situation is worse for them when you figure they are missing some starting offensive linemen.

With their passing-based attack, it should be an interesting matchup for the Ohio press coverage. As always, Ohio will come out attempting to stop the run, and they should be very effective. I doubt if Idaho manages 100 yards rushing in this game. If it becomes clear that Idaho can't run the ball, Ohio's dlinemen will start getting after the QB.

I think I heard that Idaho has given up something like 10 sacks this year, and given that sacking is a strength for Ohio, I'd guess Ohio will get at least 5 tonight. To avoid them, Idaho will have to throw the ball faster, which is where the press coverage comes in. When Ohio's DBs are up in press coverage, the uncontested short passes will be harder to come by, and the defense could get some picks.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

Eagle66
General User

Member Since: 3/13/2005
Post Count: 1,329

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/20/2014 6:27:43 PM

LuckySparrow wrote:

No Landon Smith tonight (wrist), per Arkley.

Also no carpenter per Arkley

Monroe Slavin
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Oxnard, CA
Post Count: 9,121

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/20/2014 7:17:23 PM

Thanks goodness we started 178 libs to run up the middle. Fumble.

Then OUellette in for a 50 yard run.

My big gripe, again: PLAY THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

Where's the band?!
WHERE"S THE BAND?!

DesignspiritUSA.com
The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags
The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping!

Monroe Slavin
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Oxnard, CA
Post Count: 9,121

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/20/2014 10:45:49 PM

We know that Idaho is going to pass.

Yet for most of the game we get no pass rush and their receivers are wide open. How can this be?

As I stated before, I hate the blitz up the middle. Coordinated O-lines + running back(s) can pick this up (unless have dominant d-tackles..we don't).

Edge blitzes which simply bring too many people for the allocated number of blockers rule. But, of course we'll never see this as it would require doing something that we've not stuck with forever.

Speaking of not having the right guys in the right position (I wonder if Ouellete gets it much today if the first run hadn't been a fumble), why do we line Basham up at left end? Has he ever made any big plays from the left side / Haven't all of his big plays come from right end?

I get that I VASTLY over-estimated our talent. Poling's three picks make him about the only guy who's played markedly well for us in all four games (at least on D and skill positions on offense). But how can we not play the right guys in the right positions????

Pataskala
General User

Member Since: 7/8/2010
Location: At least six feet away from anybody else
Post Count: 9,154

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/20/2014 11:13:43 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Thanks goodness we started 178 libs to run up the middle. Fumble.

Then OUellette in for a 50 yard run.

My big gripe, again: PLAY THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

+1

Daz is very good in space, but when there's a crowd he can't handle the guys stripping the ball. Even Edmond scares me; he carried the ball pretty loosely in his 4th Q run. Oullette is definitely the best at protecting the ball.

Last Edited: 9/20/2014 11:14:44 PM by Pataskala

We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

Monroe Slavin
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Oxnard, CA
Post Count: 9,121

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/20/2014 11:23:16 PM

Maybe I'm seeing things that aren't there...but it seems that certain of our guys sense contact coming and put two hands on the ball or move it to a position that the guys coming cannot strike on the ball. And other of our guys don't.

All must do it right. Or don't play 'em.

RSBobcat
General User

Member Since: 8/22/2010
Location: Columbus, OH
Post Count: 4,401

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/21/2014 12:15:16 AM

Penalties - we have an issue - WAY too many last couple games. Unsportsmanlike on an extra point kick - C'mon!

RS Bobcat

Ted Thompson
Administrator

Member Since: 11/11/2004
Location: MAC Play
Post Count: 7,402

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/22/2014 10:03:48 PM

Follow Ohio Football recruiting on the BobcatAttack.com football recruiting database.

L.C.
General User

Member Since: 8/31/2005
Location: United States
Post Count: 10,073

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/22/2014 11:28:31 PM

Thanks, Ted. I love watching the replays, so I can play them in stop-action and see the details better:

On those long passes, the young OLine was doing a great job. They are coming along nicely. Sprague under-threw a lot of them, sort of floated them in, and the receivers made great catches. By contrast, the Idaho QB had a lot more zing on the ball.

On Polings big interception return to the 4, Jovon Johnson immediately recognized the INT and had a huge block on the receiver to spring him. I'm not sure why Poling turned in, initially, where in ran into Basham, instead of going outside.

On OUellette's nice run off left tackle, it was Lowery at LT and McQueen at LG. The DE went deep, and Lowery sealed him there, while McQueen did a great job of locking up the DT, and Sebastian Smith had a beautiful block on the OLB, and AJ beat the CB on his own.

On Sprague's TD, it was a classic, um, QB Trap. Pruehs pulled left for the trap block, while McQueen, Lucas, and Powell drove their guys to the right. Seriously, considering that the QB in the Pistol is lined up about where the FB is in an I-formation, I guess it makes sense to run the FB trap with the QB.

My final observation is that the guy that tackled Poling after his last interception, and who took a stiff arm, then slung Poling out of bounds was the Idaho QB. He was a big, strong, athletic guy.

Last Edited: 9/22/2014 11:51:31 PM by L.C.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

Deciduous Forest Cat
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Ohio
Post Count: 4,311

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/23/2014 10:35:31 AM

One play I noticed was a pitch to Oulette and Sprague immediately getting downfield to deliver a lead block and spring him for extra yards. Love the grit, but in hindsight, do we want this after our starting qb goes down? Nice, but scary.

.
General User

Member Since: 2/3/2005
Post Count: 2,949

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/23/2014 11:02:39 AM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

I cringed when I saw that.

OhioCatFan
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Athens, OH
Post Count: 14,016

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/23/2014 11:09:11 AM

Delete Pending wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

I cringed when I saw that.

How long have you guys been watching Solich Ball? :-) I've heard opposing coaches comment on how Solich's teams always have good blocking from RBs, WRs and QBs. Solich coaches team ball and he'd probably bench a QB who didn't block in that situation, or at least give him a stern talkin to.

The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA

"It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right."

Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org

L.C.
General User

Member Since: 8/31/2005
Location: United States
Post Count: 10,073

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/23/2014 11:12:12 AM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

I guess the question is, how often do people get hurt throwing blocks? I still think most injuries come when players get hit unexpectedly, or when they get hit at the wrong time such as when cutting, or when they simply roll over an ankle, not in normal contact.

Personally I loved the block. It kind of sends a message "hey, when the time comes, I'll block for you, so you better be blocking for me all the time".

Last Edited: 9/23/2014 11:13:12 AM by L.C.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

Ted Thompson
Administrator

Member Since: 11/11/2004
Location: MAC Play
Post Count: 7,402

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/23/2014 8:17:31 PM

Follow Ohio Football recruiting on the BobcatAttack.com football recruiting database.

.
General User

Member Since: 2/3/2005
Post Count: 2,949

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/24/2014 5:34:45 PM

So do Peyton Manning's teammates block less well for him because he doesn't take on linebackers off the edge?

Using a QB as a lead blocker is doing a dumb thing for little reward for a hypothetical morale boost no one can prove. The upside is four extra yards. The downside is your season is over because you have your third string QB playing.

Last Edited: 9/24/2014 5:41:13 PM by .

OhioCatFan
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Athens, OH
Post Count: 14,016

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/24/2014 9:02:03 PM

I also think it's wimpy for QBs to slide. At first you only saw it in the pros. Now, you see it in high school. I like my QBs rough and ready, not a prima donna ballerina.

L.C.
General User

Member Since: 8/31/2005
Location: United States
Post Count: 10,073

Status: Offline

RE: Official Game 4 Thread: Idaho

Posted: 9/24/2014 9:15:53 PM

Delete Pending wrote:

Actually, since QB blocks are rare, and usually done on things like reverses, they may be the difference between a 3 yard loss and a 40 yard gain. Your hypothetical 5 yard gain is possible as well, but the outcome of the block can be widely variable.

I might be more concerned about the possibility of an injury if I had ever seen a QB hurt while blocking.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

Showing Replies:	26 - 50 of 56 Posts
Jump to Page:	< Previous 1 \| 2 \| 3 Next >

View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics

There are 239 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com

238 Guests
1 Registered User:
	Bobcat110

There are no other users looking at this page.