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Topic: RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Topic: RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

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JSF
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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/5/2014 8:20:58 PM

goherd25 wrote:

You will see it listed in media reports etc, as #29 if you are 29th in points. Fairly common actually. So it is entirely accurate to say your team is ranked #29 when it has the 29th most points in the AP poll.

Those "media reports" are wrong. As far as the poll is concerned, if you're not in the top 25, you're not ranked. Period. The "other receiving votes" category is essentially a list of runners-up.

I'll go with Situation saying Marshall was more valued than Ohio, but Marshall simply was not ranked. It's incorrect.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 12:51:10 AM

JSF wrote:

goherd25 wrote:

I just explained it to you. Its not a list of runners up. Its a list of points accrued in descending order, until no more are there. The teams are ranked in that order. The Top 25 is a highlighted group, yes, but its only logical to keep that going and any team that ever finished or is in that group, #26 through #X that gets 1 point, does in fact tae pride in that and is included in many media reports, tweets etc.

While we are not ranked in the top 25, it is absolutely true that we are ranked, via the points we received in said poll, and based on the actual way the points ranking system works, most points to least.

And yes,the same is true when Ohio appears in them as well.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 1:52:15 AM

goherd25 wrote:

While we are not ranked in the top 25, it is absolutely true that we are ranked, via the points we received in said poll, and based on the actual way the points ranking system works, most points to least.

And yes,the same is true when Ohio appears in them as well.

No, you were not ranked. You did not get a number next your name by the AP. You can say you're listed as whatever number, but that doesn't make it so. If you were ranked, you would have a ranking number next to you. But you weren't, so you didn't.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings

Texas is tops in the "Others Receiving Votes" category, but when you look at their recap on Saturday, you will not see a "#26" in the story because they are not considered ranked. They are listed for the sake of completeness but should not be considered ranked.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 2:58:27 AM

Your lack of reading comprehension, or understanding of a simple explanation is astounding. Its clear you will not admit that you are wrong so any further discussion is pointless. We weren't in the top 25 but we were ranked #29 per the AP poll ranking standards using the points from the ballots, the same as the top 25 is ranked. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to. (NT)

Posted: 9/6/2014 7:22:08 AM

Last Edited: 9/6/2014 7:31:46 AM by Sony7

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 11:16:37 AM

goherd25 wrote:

We have a learning disability here?

Let's start with the facts: You've lost to O H I O three straight. And, you weren't ranked.

Let's say that 31 teams received votes. By your logic...whatever...everyone else was tied for 32. Yes, we were ranked 32nd at the end of last year! Everyone gets a trophy!

Most people don't know this and I only reveal it now to seal the deal, but JSF provides anonymous, pro bono help in structuring and defining the polls. He knows and he's correct. Why do you keep fighting reality?!

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 12:46:49 PM

Does the equation the AP poll uses to rank teams stop working at the arbitrarily chosen number 25? No.

You guys knocking goherd are a joke.

Marshall was more valued than OHIO at the end of last season. How do I define that objectively? More AP voters put Marshall in their top 25 than OHIO. It's irrelevant whether or not the AP formally addresses the 26th team (and so on). A person with average intellect can open up a spread sheet and organize the votes themselves. You trolls must thrive on weak intellectual opponents.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 12:59:06 PM

Did you miss the part where I specifically agreed with you or were you just too excited to argue?

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 1:17:02 PM

[QUOTE=JSF]
No, you were not ranked. You did not get a number next your name by the AP. You can say you're listed as whatever number, but that doesn't make it so. If you were ranked, you would have a ranking number next to you. But you weren't, so you didn't.
[QUOTE]

That came after my value post, that's not agreement. And when Monroe chimed in I felt compelled to address your stupidity.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 2:07:28 PM

The Situation wrote:

That came after my value post, that's not agreement. And when Monroe chimed in I felt compelled to address your stupidity.

So the answer is, "Yes, I missed it."

Me wrote:

I'll go with Situation saying Marshall was more valued than Ohio

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 2:16:39 PM

JSF wrote:

The Situation wrote:

That came after my value post, that's not agreement. And when Monroe chimed in I felt compelled to address your stupidity.

So the answer is, "Yes, I missed it."

Me wrote:

I'll go with Situation saying Marshall was more valued than Ohio

No I didn't miss it. I will intellectually dismantle you.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 2:32:35 PM

The Situation wrote:

JSF wrote:

The Situation wrote:

That came after my value post, that's not agreement. And when Monroe chimed in I felt compelled to address your stupidity.

So the answer is, "Yes, I missed it."

Me wrote:

I'll go with Situation saying Marshall was more valued than Ohio

No I didn't miss it. I will intellectually dismantle you.

I might as well go to bed. That's the funniest thing I'll read today.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 2:55:16 PM

JSF wrote:

The Situation wrote:

JSF wrote:

The Situation wrote:

That came after my value post, that's not agreement. And when Monroe chimed in I felt compelled to address your stupidity.

So the answer is, "Yes, I missed it."

Me wrote:

I'll go with Situation saying Marshall was more valued than Ohio

No I didn't miss it. I will intellectually dismantle you.

I might as well go to bed. That's the funniest thing I'll read today.

Put your money where your mouth is boy.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 3:10:39 PM

The Situation wrote:

JSF wrote:

The Situation wrote:

JSF wrote:

The Situation wrote:

That came after my value post, that's not agreement. And when Monroe chimed in I felt compelled to address your stupidity.

So the answer is, "Yes, I missed it."

Me wrote:

I'll go with Situation saying Marshall was more valued than Ohio

No I didn't miss it. I will intellectually dismantle you.

I might as well go to bed. That's the funniest thing I'll read today.

Put your money where your mouth is boy.

(laughing) Put it where? I agree: Marshall was valued higher than Ohio at the end of the season. I also agree whether you have the number next your name isn't really relevant. But as far as the AP poll is concerned, Marshall wasn't ranked. To use the technical term, they were "listed." There were voters who ranked them, just not the poll. That's the only place goherd was incorrect and I tried to correct him.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 3:26:45 PM

JSF wrote:

The Situation wrote:

JSF wrote:

The Situation wrote:

JSF wrote:

The Situation wrote:

That came after my value post, that's not agreement. And when Monroe chimed in I felt compelled to address your stupidity.

So the answer is, "Yes, I missed it."

Me wrote:

I'll go with Situation saying Marshall was more valued than Ohio

No I didn't miss it. I will intellectually dismantle you.

I might as well go to bed. That's the funniest thing I'll read today.

Put your money where your mouth is boy.

Well boy let's bet American dollars that if we ask an independent source to rank the top 120 college football teams last year they rank Marshall ahead of OHIO.

Or were you just telling me the sky's blue?

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 3:42:13 PM

American dollars? Not British pounds?

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 6:36:43 PM

JSF wrote:

American dollars? Not British pounds?

I would settle for an "I am wrong" bet.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 6:54:27 PM

Is it me, or has this thread wandered into the inane?

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 6:54:58 PM

I don't know, Mark, isn't it just getting to be fun?!

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 6:59:29 PM

I guess. But I hate seeing Ohio alums go at each other, especially over a rather minor issue.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 7:20:36 PM

Mark Lembright '85 wrote:

I guess. But I hate seeing Ohio alums go at each other, especially over a rather minor issue.

If you'll notice, I'm not even going at him. I'm just letting him do his thing. I'm telling him I agree with him and he's cutting a WWE promo on me.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 7:21:39 PM

...nobody, after losing at home to Eastern KY. Earlier this week I said they're playing at FCS level. Make that DII.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 7:23:04 PM

And just like that Miami loses to FCS Eastern Kentucky.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 8:49:37 PM

stupd cow up 7-0 in the second quarter on a very good Rhode Island team.

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RE: Miami is now the MAC East favorite according to.......

Posted: 9/6/2014 8:53:52 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

stupd cow up 7-0 in the second quarter on a very good Rhode Island team.

10-0 now. Rhode Island would win the MAC, though, so yeah, Terd is totally running the table and winding up in a New Years bowl game.

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