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Casper71
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RE: QB

Posted: 10/28/2015 11:11:43 AM

Bcat2, I fail to understand why you go after every post, all the time, as some kind of negative thing. You seem to have one big chip on your shoulder. I simply asked a question about QB recruiting and stated the approach I would take. And, again, I don't care who anybody else recruited. I simply think one of four things have to happen at OHIO:

1. Recruit and then develop into a very good QB someone who might be a diamond in the rough (when was the last time that happened?).

2. Recruit 3-star QBs and work hard to sign at least one of them and then get them on the field (when has that happened?).

3. Recruit a JC guy that can come in and play immediately (that has happened).

4. Getting a nice 3-star QB transfer would also be nice (but the jury is out and looking doubtful on that one).

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RE: QB

Posted: 10/28/2015 1:47:19 PM

Never mind the part of my prior post related to Steibling. Apparently Steibling verballed to EMU back in June. The offer to Hegarty may still be open, though, and I can't see that he has given a verbal to anyone.

I still think that we won't hear anything about a QB until signing day. It's possible that after Thanksgiving we'll see another wave of offers go out to quarterbacks, but I doubt it.

Last Edited: 10/28/2015 1:51:31 PM by L.C.

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Casper71
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RE: QB

Posted: 10/28/2015 2:59:45 PM

This guy still in the mix...offers look interesting:

Josh Jackson
(Updated 4/16) Saline, MI QB 6-2/195 Ohio*, Air Force*, BG, Buffalo*, EMU*, Miami (OH)*, Northwestern*, Syracuse*, Utah*, WVU*

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RE: QB

Posted: 10/28/2015 4:53:17 PM

Casper71 wrote:

Casper71. Had you presented the above I would have not even replied. You presented "must get one really good guy (3-stars with 3-5 big time offers) every year!." I just tried to show that the best teams in the MAC are not meeting that standard. Yet it is a "must" for Ohio. You need to take a stint as the recruiting coordinator. I do like how high you aim.

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L.C.
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RE: QB

Posted: 10/28/2015 10:19:09 PM

Casper71 wrote:

This guy still in the mix...offers look interesting:

Josh Jackson
(Updated 4/16) Saline, MI QB 6-2/195 Ohio*, Air Force*, BG, Buffalo*, EMU*, Miami (OH)*, Northwestern*, Syracuse*, Utah*, WVU*

Yes, he's a good one. His Hudl is good, too, but unfortunately he verballed to Virginia Tech, so he's out of the picture (unless something changes).

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RE: QB

Posted: 10/28/2015 10:25:16 PM

Bcat2 wrote:

...I do like how high you aim.

That's always the challenge is knowing how high to aim. I like that Ohio offers great players, some of whom end up with 4-5 stars. If Ohio never offers them, they'll never get them, but if they keep offering, eventually they will land the next Cleve Bryant or Todd Snyder. Or, maybe no one will notice that particular player, and they will end up with the next Lavon Brazille or Travis Carrie.

The question is the bottom end. How low do you go? If you don't go low enough, you get no verbals, and come December you have to scramble to fill the class because players that might have accepted if you had offered them early are now no longer available, or no longer interested. If you go too low you fill the class too quickly, and when a great player comes along later you have a hard time finding room for him.

Personally I think they should shoot a little higher each year. Just keep moving the bar up a little at a time, and keep trying to fill the classes with better and better players.

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RE: QB

Posted: 10/30/2015 3:39:54 PM

I think we could compete for a MACC with the type of class we brought in last year, sustained over a few years.

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RE: QB

Posted: 11/1/2015 7:55:58 AM

From Yahoo's winners and losers for the weeK:

Chase Litton, Marshall: The Thundering Herd moved to 5-0 in Conference USA thanks to a scintillating performance by Litton in the team's 34-10 win over Charlotte. He threw for 486 yards and two touchdowns while completing 33-48 passes. The passing yards were a career high for for the freshman; he hadn't thrown over 270 yards in a game this season. Thanks to a loss to Ohio in the second week of the season, Marshall (8-1) isn't in contention for a New Year's Six bowl berth. But a second-straight one-loss season looks entirely possible, especially if Litton keeps this up.

Is this kid a true or redshirt freshman? Either way, there is talent to be found that can make a huge impact--only think what may have been had he started one week earlier..

Last Edited: 11/1/2015 7:56:30 AM by MonroeClassmate

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RE: QB

Posted: 11/1/2015 8:09:44 AM

OSU Barrett Suspended.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-do...

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RE: QB

Posted: 11/4/2015 10:28:33 AM

Bcat2, you are right, I misspoke and I apologize. OHIO should TRY to get one of those 3-star guys with lots of offers. If we could even get one every 5 years we would be light years ahead of most of the teams in the MAC!

Last Edited: 11/4/2015 10:30:44 AM by Casper71

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RE: QB

Posted: 11/4/2015 11:22:08 AM

MonroeClassmate wrote:

Is this kid a true or redshirt freshman? Either way, there is talent to be found that can make a huge impact--only think what may have been had he started one week earlier..

Actually, neither you nor I know that answer to that question. His first start was against a weak FCS team. And, for the record, The Herd only has won one game against an FBS team with a winning record -- Southern Mississippi. Their next chance will probably come in the final game of the season against WKU, the team that ruined their chances last year for an Access Bowl invite. For the record, I'll be in Huntington on November 14 for the game against FIU. Go Marshall!

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RE: QB

Posted: 11/13/2015 10:19:00 PM

I didn't think we had any more slots in this class, but with RB Rash's decommitment, maybe there's room for a QB. If so, this is my pick:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-A...

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RE: QB

Posted: 11/17/2015 4:27:24 PM

C Money wrote:

I didn't think we had any more slots in this class, but with RB Rash's decommitment, maybe there's room for a QB. If so, this is my pick:

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-A...

Saw him (Austin Scott) first game of last season in a 58-56 OT barn-burner loss to QB David Sills (now WR at WVU) and Eastern Christian Academy (MD). Looked like a good one, although throwing to Feaster (Tenn commit) helps (I believe GA 100m and 200m champ two years running). Think Austin dropped 370yds and four or five TD pass on ECA thru the air in a game that had just ver 1100yds of combined offense between the two teams. Feaster's HS time for 200m would have finished 5th or 6th in the PAC-12 last year.

ECA head coach said Feaster was the best WR/RB he'd seen in a couple years.

Last Edited: 11/17/2015 4:40:53 PM by jb571

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RE: QB

Posted: 12/21/2015 12:24:36 PM

L.C., just repeating:

RE: QB
Posted: 10/24/2015 7:58:24 PM

L.C. cant you find us a 3-star QB with 5 or more big time offers? After this weekends debacle we MUST get one or a really good JC guy.

Can't you find us a 3-star multi offer QB?

allen
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RE: QB

Posted: 12/21/2015 12:51:55 PM

They don't want to compete against other schools when recruiting, they want a diamond in the rough. That is why outside of Windham, none of our QB's has had offers. Vick had offers for basketball, Sprague none, Maxwell none, Duckworth none after torn acl. Have a great winter break coaches.

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L.C.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 2:39:11 PM

Allen, you should spend more time over here. Every QB they have offered so far has had multiple offers, and most have had multiple P5 offers. Most are rated 3 stars or better. They definitely are trying to compete. The problem is that, thus far, they haven't won any of the recruiting battles with P5 schools for a quarterback. Are they setting their sights too low? That's absurd. Are they setting it too high? Perhaps. They might be better off going after 2 star recruits with 1-5 G5 offers.

The mystery is what they are up to now, given that they didn't land any of the 3-4 star guys that they offered. There haven't been any reports of new offers in months. Have they gotten a verbal from some under the radar guy? Have they landed a JUCO? Did they decide they don't need a QB in this class? Will there be some signing day surprise? I have no clue, but I hope so.

Last Edited: 12/21/2015 2:41:27 PM by L.C.

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RE: QB

Posted: 12/21/2015 3:28:29 PM

LC, i am talking about who we have on the roster. Anybody can make offers. The question is do you believe you can get the guy. Are you really trying? Are there any visits? These to me are shadow offers. We have a very attractive position that we can offer a QB recruit, but this staff is satisfied at what they have. They owe Sprague the start and thats what we will see.

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RE: QB

Posted: 12/21/2015 4:37:44 PM

allen wrote:

Vick had at least one other FBS offer, I think.

Continuing your list, Tettleton had one other FBS offer (NMSU). I can't remember about Kyle Snyder, but I think his only other offers were FCS. I'm thinking Ronnie Bell maybe had some FBS interest as an athlete, but not necessarily any offers as a QB.

Boo Jackson was fairly well regarded out of high school but had to go JUCO. Same for Theo Scott, IIRC.

Who are we forgetting? I guess you could throw Bates into the discussion as well.

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Posted: 12/21/2015 5:15:25 PM

Tettleton and Vick had interest. I broke the Tettleton signing. Vick had North Dakota State. Tettleton had nothing, he had an offer to walk on at OSU.

Last Edited: 12/21/2015 5:16:52 PM by allen

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Posted: 12/21/2015 6:16:38 PM

The offers tell you what they have their sights on. Normally they send out about ten offers for each acceptance they get. The fact that they got no acceptances at QB tells me that they set the sights too high.

I thought TT had no other offers, too, but when Ohio was playing at NM St a few years ago they interviewed him, and he said that the only offer he had besides Ohio was from NM St. The offer was never listed on the recruiting services, but that doesn't mean he didn't get one.

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Posted: 12/21/2015 7:18:25 PM

Tettleton would have probably had offers but he tore his acl his junior year, I will concede one offer. They need to believe and be relentless in the living room.

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes

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Posted: 12/22/2015 10:44:35 AM

L.C. wrote:

...The offer was never listed on the recruiting services, but that doesn't mean he didn't get one...

Of course, since NCAA rules prevent coaches/ADs/etc from talking publicly about prospects prior to having their NLI (national letter of intent), we the general public have no idea who has actually been "officially" offered by schools. All of our info is based on statements by the athlete in question, HS coaches, parents, etc. Thus, we don't get a disinterested listing from a SID laying out who was offered scholarships when, rather the information is self-reported (and not necessarily non-biased)
[YAY, more data quality discussion!]

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Posted: 12/22/2015 1:07:16 PM

L.C. wrote:

The services list what they receive from coaches and family. Often coaches and family stop submitting information as soon as a scholarship is secured. Coaches move on to working hard for the next player and family will have other senior year business. We use service information as if it is absolute, it is far from it.

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RE: QB

Posted: 12/22/2015 1:48:30 PM

ok our previous seven qb's have had three fbs offers. Not even one offer per prospect. We did beat out Hocking for Maxwell. Who needs Urban Meyer? I just can't believe the big schools are not poaching our phenomenal recruiting assistants.

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RE: QB

Posted: 12/22/2015 4:59:37 PM

allen wrote:

Now do the same for NIU's top QBs. Just those on the current roster will be fine. Then let us see how different it is between the gold standard program and Ohio. Waiting.

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