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Andrew Ruck
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  Message Not Read  RE: Coach Frank Solich & the OU Athletic Department
   Posted: 1/5/2021 1:49:32 PM 
This thread makes me think of cherished memories of Monroe Slavin.

X years, 0 MACC.

Winning Macc...None.

Frank. Mediocrity.

Ohio. Be better.

No Macc.

Seriously.

Andrew Ruck
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   Posted: 1/5/2021 1:53:11 PM 
BUTM!!!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Coach Frank Solich & the OU Athletic Department
   Posted: 1/5/2021 3:23:21 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
This thread makes me think of cherished memories of Monroe Slavin.

X years, 0 MACC.

Winning Macc...None.

Frank. Mediocrity.

Ohio. Be better.

No Macc.

Seriously.


"Example is the school of Mankind and he will learn at no other." Edmond Burke

Monroe's professional life has been in finance. Much was about analyzing numbers and results. He brought that to the board. Seriously.
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Andrew Ruck
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   Posted: 1/5/2021 3:56:19 PM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:

Monroe's professional life has been in finance. Much was about analyzing numbers and results. He brought that to the board. Seriously.



I'm a CPA. I am happy to fulfil the role of official Bobcat Attack CPA if need be.

Andrew Ruck
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Alan Swank
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   Posted: 1/5/2021 5:38:38 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:

Monroe's professional life has been in finance. Much was about analyzing numbers and results. He brought that to the board. Seriously.



I'm a CPA. I am happy to fulfil the role of official Bobcat Attack CPA if need be.


Except we have no money to count.
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Old Zone
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   Posted: 1/5/2021 6:37:05 PM 
Except we have no money to count.

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In that case I can do the job.
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giacomo
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   Posted: 1/5/2021 8:58:19 PM 
It doesn’t matter. The next time I worry about it will be the first time.
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   Posted: 1/5/2021 10:38:57 PM 
giacomo wrote:
It doesn’t matter. The next time I worry about it will be the first time.


That sounds similar to what someone once said about your playing days in the green and white - "his next assist will be his first assist."
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giacomo
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   Posted: 1/6/2021 8:27:28 PM 
Haha! I never met a shot I didn’t like.
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BryanHall
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   Posted: 1/6/2021 10:38:33 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
This thread makes me think of cherished memories of Monroe Slavin.

X years, 0 MACC.

Winning Macc...None.

Frank. Mediocrity.

Ohio. Be better.

No Macc.

Seriously.



I thought of that and the frequent "Fire Albin!" threads.
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   Posted: 1/7/2021 7:34:48 AM 
I would be curious what Julie thinks about the current status of the football program. And I mean straight forward thoughts not this usual BS administrator talk.
Then, with the answer to that question, the follow up would be for her to divulge where she see this program going in the future.
If she has inspirations of using her 1st AD job as a spring board to a P5 situation she certainly needs to implement something that makes a difference.
Moving the football program forward to the next level could be that something to get her recognized.




GO BOBCATS
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   Posted: 1/7/2021 8:48:45 AM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:

Monroe's professional life has been in finance. Much was about analyzing numbers and results. He brought that to the board. Seriously.



I'm a CPA. I am happy to fulfil the role of official Bobcat Attack CPA if need be.


Thank you for volunteering!

But to get the spot, you must pass due diligence. We must know your "real" name not this Ruck stuff. And are you a Bobcat or one of God's new creatures known as the Rino-Bobcat?

What do your tea leaves portend?

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  Message Not Read  RE: Coach Frank Solich & the OU Athletic Department
   Posted: 1/7/2021 11:53:22 AM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:

Monroe's professional life has been in finance. Much was about analyzing numbers and results. He brought that to the board. Seriously.



I'm a CPA. I am happy to fulfil the role of official Bobcat Attack CPA if need be.


Thank you for volunteering!

But to get the spot, you must pass due diligence. We must know your "real" name not this Ruck stuff. And are you a Bobcat or one of God's new creatures known as the Rino-Bobcat?

What do your tea leaves portend?



You’ve also got to be a repetitive raving godawful a-hole with anybody who disagrees with you in the slightest if you really want to take up the Monroe mantle

(Edited to correct an autocorrect error)

Last Edited: 1/7/2021 11:53:58 AM by mf279801
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giacomo
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   Posted: 1/7/2021 12:53:27 PM 
Let’s say we bring in Urban Meyer and pay him 5M a year. We then proceed to win the MAC every year and play in a Tidy Bowl type bowl game. Is it worth it?
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   Posted: 1/7/2021 1:12:30 PM 
mf279801 wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:

Monroe's professional life has been in finance. Much was about analyzing numbers and results. He brought that to the board. Seriously.



I'm a CPA. I am happy to fulfil the role of official Bobcat Attack CPA if need be.


Thank you for volunteering!

But to get the spot, you must pass due diligence. We must know your "real" name not this Ruck stuff. And are you a Bobcat or one of God's new creatures known as the Rino-Bobcat?

What do your tea leaves portend?




You’ve also got to be a repetitive raving godawful a-hole with anybody who disagrees with you in the slightest if you really want to take up the Monroe mantle

(Edited to correct an autocorrect error)


And send hateful PMs to other forum users late at night.

Last Edited: 1/8/2021 10:17:03 AM by SBH
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  Message Not Read  RE: Coach Frank Solich & the OU Athletic Department
   Posted: 1/7/2021 6:43:48 PM 
giacomo wrote:
Let’s say we bring in Urban Meyer and pay him 5M a year. We then proceed to win the MAC every year and play in a Tidy Bowl type bowl game. Is it worth it?


No definitely not. Don't forget the assistant pool, Urban Meyer might demand another 5 million to pay for assistants.

Realistically a new staff could be 900k for the HC and 300k for the coordinators. Toledo and WMU are already paying that. I'd push back on that long as possible with the current financial situation.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Coach Frank Solich & the OU Athletic Department
   Posted: 1/7/2021 7:39:38 PM 
giacomo wrote:
Let’s say we bring in Urban Meyer and pay him 5M a year. We then proceed to win the MAC every year and play in a Tidy Bowl type bowl game. Is it worth it?


I mean, if it’s your 5 million per year then yes, I’m okay with you spending it that way. I wouldn’t spend MY money that way (and the university probably shouldn’t either) but you do you.

Also, I don’t think 5mil/year would do it, compared to what he’s likely getting from the Jags
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   Posted: 1/8/2021 9:50:34 AM 
To be clear, I am only willing to fulfill the CPA role and not the role of Monroe in total. Although I do enjoy a good trolling, I am far too stable and level-headed for that job.

Andrew Ruck
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   Posted: 1/8/2021 3:10:47 PM 
I know we won't pay 5M. But let's say we pay 800 to 1M and the program starts winning MAC championships. Is it realistic to think we could play in a major bowl and what kind of money would that bring? Enough to break even at least? Because we lose money now. And could we even do it with the kind of schedule we play? IMO we would also need to play 2 to 3 games on the road against P5 and win some of those. Maybe there is some money there, but if we become more successful that would dry up. Why would a P5 want to play a MAC school if they think they can lose? That's not why they schedule that type of game. So in the end we need deep pocketed boosters.

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   Posted: 1/8/2021 10:45:43 PM 
giacomo wrote:
I know we won't pay 5M. But let's say we pay 800 to 1M and the program starts winning MAC championships. Is it realistic to think we could play in a major bowl and what kind of money would that bring? Enough to break even at least? Because we lose money now. And could we even do it with the kind of schedule we play? IMO we would also need to play 2 to 3 games on the road against P5 and win some of those. Maybe there is some money there, but if we become more successful that would dry up. Why would a P5 want to play a MAC school if they think they can lose? That's not why they schedule that type of game. So in the end we need deep pocketed boosters.


I like how you think! We should also build out Peden to 40k, maybe a 2nd deck on the east side? This would allow us to bring real P5 schools into Athens.
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   Posted: 1/9/2021 12:11:02 PM 
Elon Musk Stadium?
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   Posted: 1/9/2021 4:21:28 PM 
giacomo wrote:
Elon Musk Stadium?


Wonder where we are on the process of naming rights?
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   Posted: 1/9/2021 8:36:52 PM 
giacomo wrote:
I know we won't pay 5M. But let's say we pay 800 to 1M and the program starts winning MAC championships. Is it realistic to think we could play in a major bowl and what kind of money would that bring? Enough to break even at least? Because we lose money now. And could we even do it with the kind of schedule we play? IMO we would also need to play 2 to 3 games on the road against P5 and win some of those. Maybe there is some money there, but if we become more successful that would dry up. Why would a P5 want to play a MAC school if they think they can lose? That's not why they schedule that type of game. So in the end we need deep pocketed boosters.


When you are talking boosters the something to be said for booster fatigue. I don't know how many still owe pledges on the IPF or Sook but I'm sure there are some out there.

The administration has beefed up the schedule somewhat. There are 2 P5s on the schedule each year from 2021-24. Is it going to be enough to get to a major bowl if Ohio wins the MAC? I doubt it unless Ohio has an undefeated season.

Instead of something that has a 5% chance of happening if the goal was just to win the MAC then its a 20% chance with the existing staff and no higher than that with a new one. When you hire a new staff too there is elevated personnel turnover. Risks involved that the hire might not work out.

The longer term trend I've seen is as the MAC has developed with more bowl games Ohio has progressively become more competitive nationally. The chance to play in a major bowl game has only been around for 14 years, and a guarantee for the highest ranked champ outside for the P5 for the last 6.

What is to say then in another 2-3 years they don't decide to expand the playoff and give the G5 a spot? Then you're talking not just a major bowl but a national championship. Of course it could go the other way and the P5 decides to form their own division. In context of all this we might as well continue to ride the staff for the time being because changes are coming and they've kept the team competitive enough.

This year even Ohio was only 3 points away from an undefeated season. Cincinnati was also 3 points away from undefeated. While that is not a close analogy, if Ohio won against CMU and was still locked out of the MAC Championship because of COVID it goes undefeated. This in a year with new QBs.

Could we do what NIU did from 2010-2014 where they won 11 games in each of those seasons winning 3 MAC Championships in 5 years, one berth in the Orange Bowl and second year where they were quite close to making another one. That would be the next level from where the staff has the program now but its a rarified level and a level that might be more realistic in the future than it is right now.

Last Edited: 1/9/2021 8:39:15 PM by Club Hyatt

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   Posted: 1/9/2021 8:59:37 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
giacomo wrote:
Elon Musk Stadium?


Wonder where we are on the process of naming rights?


What if Solich gives a nice gift to the stadium? He won't be as generous if he's pushed out early.

I'm not seeing where the sense of urgency is coming from to replace him. What is MAC football going to be in 2021? When do the fans come back to the stands? When does enrollment hit bottom? Still on a downward trajectory.

That is why doing nothing as it relates to the staff is the best option.

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   Posted: 1/10/2021 8:41:53 AM 
Club Hyatt wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
giacomo wrote:
Elon Musk Stadium?


Wonder where we are on the process of naming rights?


What if Solich gives a nice gift to the stadium? He won't be as generous if he's pushed out early.

I'm not seeing where the sense of urgency is coming from to replace him. What is MAC football going to be in 2021? When do the fans come back to the stands? When does enrollment hit bottom? Still on a downward trajectory.

That is why doing nothing as it relates to the staff is the best option.


Do not confuse a couple folks post as an urge to force Frank out. Frank is going no where unless Frank wants to go somewhere.
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