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Author Message Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,184 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 9:48:09 AM  Robert Fox wrote: GoCats105 wrote: So if Apple or Amazon all of a sudden changed their names to Melon and Congo you would still call them by the old names? I might. Especially if I thought it would drive pedantic dweebs crazy. Haha....good one Robert....lol. Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 9:59:58 AM  Robert Fox wrote: No disrespect intended, but who gives a #$%& what they call it. It changes every couple of years. Everybody knows what Allen is referring to. Why get caught up in the ESPN semantics? Hell, I still use D1-A and D1-AA because it's easy to understand, and nearly everyone gets it. No further explanation necessary. Exactly, espn still has BCS standings. http://www.espn.com/college-football/bcs/_/week/3 Kirby hocutt also uses the term. http://redraiders.com/sports-red-raiders-football/2011-12... Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 10:01:11 AM  Doc Bobcat wrote: Robert Fox wrote: GoCats105 wrote: So if Apple or Amazon all of a sudden changed their names to Melon and Congo you would still call them by the old names? I might. Especially if I thought it would drive pedantic dweebs crazy. Haha....good one Robert....lol. Do you say google or alphabet? Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,821 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 10:05:54 AM  mcbin wrote: cc-cat wrote: If either hold out a dream of playing on Sunday's then OHIO provides limited value. Would beg to differ on this note. Ohio can basically offer a guaranteed starting QB position. Wisconsin or whoever would not, or be flat lying. With only 128 FBS teams total, there's probably less than 10/20 that could offer you a starting spot with little/no competition returning. The MAC absolutely does produce NFL QBs. And Ohio produces WRs that at least get sniffs at the NFL(and with mediocre QBs). Maybe QBs as not much in the past 3/4, but if you look in the past 5/10 or so, it's proven that skilled ones get a shot in the league. Then it's up to you to show you have what it takes. Regardless of who it is, they look at the possibilities of showcasing 13 games at Ohio vs a 'maybe situation' at another school, and gives us the QB we've all been hoping for. One can hope :) I'll have to stick with "limited". If they are good enough to play on Sunday they do not need a "guaranteed" starting spot. A location like whisky, Florida, unc (most likely) where there is no incumbent provide a better showcase of their skills. If they can not beat out others in waiting then the NFL isn't really an option. Here's hoping one of them sees OHIO as the best place for them as a student. Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 10:30:49 AM  cc-cat wrote: mcbin wrote: cc-cat wrote: If either hold out a dream of playing on Sunday's then OHIO provides limited value. Would beg to differ on this note. Ohio can basically offer a guaranteed starting QB position. Wisconsin or whoever would not, or be flat lying. With only 128 FBS teams total, there's probably less than 10/20 that could offer you a starting spot with little/no competition returning. The MAC absolutely does produce NFL QBs. And Ohio produces WRs that at least get sniffs at the NFL(and with mediocre QBs). Maybe QBs as not much in the past 3/4, but if you look in the past 5/10 or so, it's proven that skilled ones get a shot in the league. Then it's up to you to show you have what it takes. Regardless of who it is, they look at the possibilities of showcasing 13 games at Ohio vs a 'maybe situation' at another school, and gives us the QB we've all been hoping for. One can hope :) I'll have to stick with "limited". If they are good enough to play on Sunday they do not need a "guaranteed" starting spot. A location like whisky, Florida, unc (most likely) where there is no incumbent provide a better showcase of their skills. If they can not beat out others in waiting then the NFL isn't really an option. Here's hoping one of them sees OHIO as the best place for them as a student. Zaire and Morris are not leaving Notre Dame and Michigan because they can't get high quality educations. They are leaving because they want to play, they want to lead. Most athletes want to make it to the highest level, they don't put in the work for participation trophies. There were NFL scouts at multiple Ohio practices. North Carolina has the same amount of QB's in the NFL as Ohio. Wisconsin has Russell Wilson who was an NC State transfer and Scott tolzien so they are not champion breeders of NFL QB's. Wisconsin has a redshirt freshman, who they say is decent and North Carolina has a couple of guys. Here is a reference to support what I just said. “I do think about that,” Smith said of teams focusing on him. “They’re just showing me respect on the field. It’s a sense of respect.” He also has the respect and interest of NFL teams. Ranked the No. 69 receiver in the upcoming draft by NFL Draft Scout, multiple professional teams have attended Ohio practice and inquired about the receiver. He said the scouts watching practice only provided more incentive to improve. “He’s got a shot,” Dixon said. “He’s got a lot of pluses that the NFL guys look for. I think he’s smart enough.” Now it’s just a matter of consistently performing and helping the Bobcats. “It’s just a blessing,” Smith said about his growth as a player. “As a young boy, I always thought about (the NFL). … I’ve always been an independent type of guy, just come in, take care of business and get out. I’m just a hard worker.” @charliehatch_ http://www.thepostathens.com/article/2016/10/sebastian-sm... Last Edited: 12/30/2016 10:39:24 AM by allen Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,920 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 11:23:30 AM  allen wrote: Robert Fox wrote: No disrespect intended, but who gives a #$%& what they call it. It changes every couple of years. Everybody knows what Allen is referring to. Why get caught up in the ESPN semantics? Hell, I still use D1-A and D1-AA because it's easy to understand, and nearly everyone gets it. No further explanation necessary. Exactly, espn still has BCS standings. http://www.espn.com/college-football/bcs/_/week/3 Kirby hocutt also uses the term. http://redraiders.com/sports-red-raiders-football/2011-12... That Hocutt article is from 2011. That ESPN link you posted doesn't even show any information. Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 11:51:47 AM  It does it states BCS ranking will not be available until week 8 2016. The terms are still used interchangeably, so we are playing semantics. PLAYOFF IMPLICATIONS The Broncos, ranked No. 21 in the latest College Football Playoff rankings , are looking to stay in contention for a BCS bowl bid and extend their overall win streak to 13, dating to last season. Western Michigan, which had never won 10 games in a season before, needs to win its final two regular-season games and the MAC championship to have a chance at a major bowl. HIGH PRAISE Despite Buffalo's record this season, Fleck believes the future is bright for coach Lance Leipold and his Bulls, who have lost two straight. Buffalo finished 5-7 last season. "Lance Leipold is one of the best coaches in the country, based on his track record, and they play so hard for him," Fleck said. "We're going to expect nothing different. We're going to get their A-plus game, we know that." LOPSIDED STATS Western Michigan, led by senior quarterback Zach Terrell, senior receiver Corey Davis and junior running back Jarvion Franklin, has the MAC's best scoring offense at 44.4 points per game, while Buffalo is last at 17.9. The Broncos also have the top scoring defense at 19.5 points per game, while the Bulls are 10th at 32.3. "Our margin of error is very small right now and we have to find a way to overcome that," Leipold said. "Our team is still going through growing pains, but I'm very proud of the way we compete. We have the biggest challenge of the year this Saturday." NO LETDOWN Fleck doesn't expect his players to overlook Buffalo with a huge matchup looming Nov. 25 against Toledo (8-2, 5-1). "We're going to get everybody's A-plus game," Fleck said. "When you play your B-minus game or C-plus game, and somebody plays their A-plus game, it's going to be a dogfight. Elite teams find ways to win games in different ways." ___ More AP college football: www.collegefootball.ap.org and https://twitter.com/AP_Top25 http://bigstory.ap.org/article/134331fb83e74b469bee1f5021... Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top OhioBobcat General User Member Since: 1/20/2006 Post Count: 1,549 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 12:01:32 PM  Oh Allen, Allen, Allen.....SMH Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 12:03:42 PM  I will stop using BCS, Ohio has a shot to get a New Years 6 invite next year with a top notch QB. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 1:07:20 PM  WRONG. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,821 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 1:15:01 PM  allen wrote: Zaire and Morris are not leaving Notre Dame and Michigan because they can't get high quality educations. Correct - they are leaving because they are not good enough to start - hence, Sunday football is a long shot. So a program such as OUr Sports Ad grad program provides an opportunity not currently available...while playing some ball for one last year. And do not even begin to compare situations to Russell Wilson. He had been a starter at NC St but was pushed out by the coach. Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 1:33:38 PM  allen wrote: cc-cat wrote: mcbin wrote: cc-cat wrote: If either hold out a dream of playing on Sunday's then OHIO provides limited value. Would beg to differ on this note. Ohio can basically offer a guaranteed starting QB position. Wisconsin or whoever would not, or be flat lying. With only 128 FBS teams total, there's probably less than 10/20 that could offer you a starting spot with little/no competition returning. The MAC absolutely does produce NFL QBs. And Ohio produces WRs that at least get sniffs at the NFL(and with mediocre QBs). Maybe QBs as not much in the past 3/4, but if you look in the past 5/10 or so, it's proven that skilled ones get a shot in the league. Then it's up to you to show you have what it takes. Regardless of who it is, they look at the possibilities of showcasing 13 games at Ohio vs a 'maybe situation' at another school, and gives us the QB we've all been hoping for. One can hope :) I'll have to stick with "limited". If they are good enough to play on Sunday they do not need a "guaranteed" starting spot. A location like whisky, Florida, unc (most likely) where there is no incumbent provide a better showcase of their skills. If they can not beat out others in waiting then the NFL isn't really an option. Here's hoping one of them sees OHIO as the best place for them as a student. Zaire and Morris are not leaving Notre Dame and Michigan because they can't get high quality educations. They are leaving because they want to play, they want to lead. Most athletes want to make it to the highest level, they don't put in the work for participation trophies. There were NFL scouts at multiple Ohio practices. North Carolina has the same amount of QB's in the NFL as Ohio. Wisconsin has Russell Wilson who was an NC State transfer and Scott tolzien so they are not champion breeders of NFL QB's. Wisconsin has a redshirt freshman, who they say is decent and North Carolina has a couple of guys. Here is a reference to support what I just said. “I do think about that,” Smith said of teams focusing on him. “They’re just showing me respect on the field. It’s a sense of respect.” He also has the respect and interest of NFL teams. Ranked the No. 69 receiver in the upcoming draft by NFL Draft Scout, multiple professional teams have attended Ohio practice and inquired about the receiver. He said the scouts watching practice only provided more incentive to improve. “He’s got a shot,” Dixon said. “He’s got a lot of pluses that the NFL guys look for. I think he’s smart enough.” Now it’s just a matter of consistently performing and helping the Bobcats. “It’s just a blessing,” Smith said about his growth as a player. “As a young boy, I always thought about (the NFL). … I’ve always been an independent type of guy, just come in, take care of business and get out. I’m just a hard worker.” @charliehatch_ http://www.thepostathens.com/article/2016/10/sebastian-sm... Goodness, pal. I hate you're making me type this...but you are so far off the reservation with these analogies. You really think Ohio is a better breeding ground for the NFL than Wisky, UNC or some other P5 schools? Based on what. Mike Mitchell and Travis Carrie? Or maybe Dave Zastudil...the longest tenured NFL player we've had in years....AND HE'S A PUNTER! Name one offensive skill player Ohio has put in the NFL that has had an impact. Taylor Price? Jordan Thompson? Lavon Brazill? Hell Chris Garrett might be best pro offensive player we've produced and he starred in CFL. Ohio does NOT produce NFL offensive skill players. Please quit acting like Ohio is a stepping stone to NFL stardom because some scouts showed up a few times to see Sebastian Smith practice. Goodness. Here's a thought. Don't waste your time on a grad transfer QB....go recruit a good HS QB that can make a difference for more than one year. They've failed in that regard repeatedly. If Zaire ends up at Ohio...I'll eat my words....and I'll buy you a Zaire Ohio jersey to apologize. Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 12/30/2016 3:13:35 PM  bshot44 wrote: allen wrote: cc-cat wrote: mcbin wrote: cc-cat wrote: If either hold out a dream of playing on Sunday's then OHIO provides limited value. Would beg to differ on this note. Ohio can basically offer a guaranteed starting QB position. Wisconsin or whoever would not, or be flat lying. With only 128 FBS teams total, there's probably less than 10/20 that could offer you a starting spot with little/no competition returning. The MAC absolutely does produce NFL QBs. And Ohio produces WRs that at least get sniffs at the NFL(and with mediocre QBs). Maybe QBs as not much in the past 3/4, but if you look in the past 5/10 or so, it's proven that skilled ones get a shot in the league. Then it's up to you to show you have what it takes. Regardless of who it is, they look at the possibilities of showcasing 13 games at Ohio vs a 'maybe situation' at another school, and gives us the QB we've all been hoping for. One can hope :) I'll have to stick with "limited". If they are good enough to play on Sunday they do not need a "guaranteed" starting spot. A location like whisky, Florida, unc (most likely) where there is no incumbent provide a better showcase of their skills. If they can not beat out others in waiting then the NFL isn't really an option. Here's hoping one of them sees OHIO as the best place for them as a student. Zaire and Morris are not leaving Notre Dame and Michigan because they can't get high quality educations. They are leaving because they want to play, they want to lead. Most athletes want to make it to the highest level, they don't put in the work for participation trophies. There were NFL scouts at multiple Ohio practices. North Carolina has the same amount of QB's in the NFL as Ohio. Wisconsin has Russell Wilson who was an NC State transfer and Scott tolzien so they are not champion breeders of NFL QB's. Wisconsin has a redshirt freshman, who they say is decent and North Carolina has a couple of guys. Here is a reference to support what I just said. “I do think about that,” Smith said of teams focusing on him. “They’re just showing me respect on the field. It’s a sense of respect.” He also has the respect and interest of NFL teams. Ranked the No. 69 receiver in the upcoming draft by NFL Draft Scout, multiple professional teams have attended Ohio practice and inquired about the receiver. He said the scouts watching practice only provided more incentive to improve. “He’s got a shot,” Dixon said. “He’s got a lot of pluses that the NFL guys look for. I think he’s smart enough.” Now it’s just a matter of consistently performing and helping the Bobcats. “It’s just a blessing,” Smith said about his growth as a player. “As a young boy, I always thought about (the NFL). … I’ve always been an independent type of guy, just come in, take care of business and get out. I’m just a hard worker.” @charliehatch_ http://www.thepostathens.com/article/2016/10/sebastian-sm... Goodness, pal. I hate you're making me type this...but you are so far off the reservation with these analogies. You really think Ohio is a better breeding ground for the NFL than Wisky, UNC or some other P5 schools? Based on what. Mike Mitchell and Travis Carrie? Or maybe Dave Zastudil...the longest tenured NFL player we've had in years....AND HE'S A PUNTER! Name one offensive skill player Ohio has put in the NFL that has had an impact. Taylor Price? Jordan Thompson? Lavon Brazill? Hell Chris Garrett might be best pro offensive player we've produced and he starred in CFL. Ohio does NOT produce NFL offensive skill players. Please quit acting like Ohio is a stepping stone to NFL stardom because some scouts showed up a few times to see Sebastian Smith practice. Goodness. Here's a thought. Don't waste your time on a grad transfer QB....go recruit a good HS QB that can make a difference for more than one year. They've failed in that regard repeatedly. If Zaire ends up at Ohio...I'll eat my words....and I'll buy you a Zaire Ohio jersey to apologize. You don't have to buy his jersey, just go to Hatorade Anonymous. All of the players you mentioned before make my point. Brazill came here running a 4.8. Price had no offers and Jordan Thompson was a converted linebacker. None came in with star potential, yet they made it to the the league. What will a bonafide athlete do in our system, he will elevate the play of others. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top OhioBobcat General User Member Since: 1/20/2006 Post Count: 1,549 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 1/15/2017 9:23:28 AM  bshot44 wrote: allen wrote: cc-cat wrote: mcbin wrote: cc-cat wrote: If either hold out a dream of playing on Sunday's then OHIO provides limited value. Would beg to differ on this note. Ohio can basically offer a guaranteed starting QB position. Wisconsin or whoever would not, or be flat lying. With only 128 FBS teams total, there's probably less than 10/20 that could offer you a starting spot with little/no competition returning. The MAC absolutely does produce NFL QBs. And Ohio produces WRs that at least get sniffs at the NFL(and with mediocre QBs). Maybe QBs as not much in the past 3/4, but if you look in the past 5/10 or so, it's proven that skilled ones get a shot in the league. Then it's up to you to show you have what it takes. Regardless of who it is, they look at the possibilities of showcasing 13 games at Ohio vs a 'maybe situation' at another school, and gives us the QB we've all been hoping for. One can hope :) I'll have to stick with "limited". If they are good enough to play on Sunday they do not need a "guaranteed" starting spot. A location like whisky, Florida, unc (most likely) where there is no incumbent provide a better showcase of their skills. If they can not beat out others in waiting then the NFL isn't really an option. Here's hoping one of them sees OHIO as the best place for them as a student. Zaire and Morris are not leaving Notre Dame and Michigan because they can't get high quality educations. They are leaving because they want to play, they want to lead. Most athletes want to make it to the highest level, they don't put in the work for participation trophies. There were NFL scouts at multiple Ohio practices. North Carolina has the same amount of QB's in the NFL as Ohio. Wisconsin has Russell Wilson who was an NC State transfer and Scott tolzien so they are not champion breeders of NFL QB's. Wisconsin has a redshirt freshman, who they say is decent and North Carolina has a couple of guys. Here is a reference to support what I just said. “I do think about that,” Smith said of teams focusing on him. “They’re just showing me respect on the field. It’s a sense of respect.” He also has the respect and interest of NFL teams. Ranked the No. 69 receiver in the upcoming draft by NFL Draft Scout, multiple professional teams have attended Ohio practice and inquired about the receiver. He said the scouts watching practice only provided more incentive to improve. “He’s got a shot,” Dixon said. “He’s got a lot of pluses that the NFL guys look for. I think he’s smart enough.” Now it’s just a matter of consistently performing and helping the Bobcats. “It’s just a blessing,” Smith said about his growth as a player. “As a young boy, I always thought about (the NFL). … I’ve always been an independent type of guy, just come in, take care of business and get out. I’m just a hard worker.” @charliehatch_ http://www.thepostathens.com/article/2016/10/sebastian-sm... Here's a thought. Don't waste your time on a grad transfer QB....go recruit a good HS QB that can make a difference for more than one year. They've failed in that regard repeatedly. Excellent point! And I agree. A grad transfer QB is putting a band aid on the problem. You'll turn around and have the exact same problem next year. Look at the success teams have had like CMU, NIU and BG with QBs that they recruited and developed with guys like Dan LeFevour, Jordan Lynch and Matt Johnson who led them to multiple titles. Back to Top bigtillyoopsupsideurhead General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 1,925 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 1/15/2017 12:10:41 PM  OhioBobcat wrote: bshot44 wrote: allen wrote: cc-cat wrote: mcbin wrote: cc-cat wrote: If either hold out a dream of playing on Sunday's then OHIO provides limited value. Would beg to differ on this note. Ohio can basically offer a guaranteed starting QB position. Wisconsin or whoever would not, or be flat lying. With only 128 FBS teams total, there's probably less than 10/20 that could offer you a starting spot with little/no competition returning. The MAC absolutely does produce NFL QBs. And Ohio produces WRs that at least get sniffs at the NFL(and with mediocre QBs). Maybe QBs as not much in the past 3/4, but if you look in the past 5/10 or so, it's proven that skilled ones get a shot in the league. Then it's up to you to show you have what it takes. Regardless of who it is, they look at the possibilities of showcasing 13 games at Ohio vs a 'maybe situation' at another school, and gives us the QB we've all been hoping for. One can hope :) I'll have to stick with "limited". If they are good enough to play on Sunday they do not need a "guaranteed" starting spot. A location like whisky, Florida, unc (most likely) where there is no incumbent provide a better showcase of their skills. If they can not beat out others in waiting then the NFL isn't really an option. Here's hoping one of them sees OHIO as the best place for them as a student. Zaire and Morris are not leaving Notre Dame and Michigan because they can't get high quality educations. They are leaving because they want to play, they want to lead. Most athletes want to make it to the highest level, they don't put in the work for participation trophies. There were NFL scouts at multiple Ohio practices. North Carolina has the same amount of QB's in the NFL as Ohio. Wisconsin has Russell Wilson who was an NC State transfer and Scott tolzien so they are not champion breeders of NFL QB's. Wisconsin has a redshirt freshman, who they say is decent and North Carolina has a couple of guys. Here is a reference to support what I just said. “I do think about that,” Smith said of teams focusing on him. “They’re just showing me respect on the field. It’s a sense of respect.” He also has the respect and interest of NFL teams. Ranked the No. 69 receiver in the upcoming draft by NFL Draft Scout, multiple professional teams have attended Ohio practice and inquired about the receiver. He said the scouts watching practice only provided more incentive to improve. “He’s got a shot,” Dixon said. “He’s got a lot of pluses that the NFL guys look for. I think he’s smart enough.” Now it’s just a matter of consistently performing and helping the Bobcats. “It’s just a blessing,” Smith said about his growth as a player. “As a young boy, I always thought about (the NFL). … I’ve always been an independent type of guy, just come in, take care of business and get out. I’m just a hard worker.” @charliehatch_ http://www.thepostathens.com/article/2016/10/sebastian-sm... Here's a thought. Don't waste your time on a grad transfer QB....go recruit a good HS QB that can make a difference for more than one year. They've failed in that regard repeatedly. Excellent point! And I agree. A grad transfer QB is putting a band aid on the problem. You'll turn around and have the exact same problem next year. Look at the success teams have had like CMU, NIU and BG with QBs that they recruited and developed with guys like Dan LeFevour, Jordan Lynch and Matt Johnson who led them to multiple titles. Yes, this strategy makes the most sense, but if we don't think we have that QB on the roster right now then brining on a one year QB is fine. No QB is going to come in as a true Freshman and win the MAC. LeFevour took a redshirt year, Matt Johnson didn't start until his third year and Lynch wasn't the starter until his 4th year at NIU. Back to Top OhioBobcat General User Member Since: 1/20/2006 Post Count: 1,549 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 1/15/2017 9:01:15 PM  bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote: OhioBobcat wrote: bshot44 wrote: allen wrote: cc-cat wrote: mcbin wrote: cc-cat wrote: If either hold out a dream of playing on Sunday's then OHIO provides limited value. Would beg to differ on this note. Ohio can basically offer a guaranteed starting QB position. Wisconsin or whoever would not, or be flat lying. With only 128 FBS teams total, there's probably less than 10/20 that could offer you a starting spot with little/no competition returning. The MAC absolutely does produce NFL QBs. And Ohio produces WRs that at least get sniffs at the NFL(and with mediocre QBs). Maybe QBs as not much in the past 3/4, but if you look in the past 5/10 or so, it's proven that skilled ones get a shot in the league. Then it's up to you to show you have what it takes. Regardless of who it is, they look at the possibilities of showcasing 13 games at Ohio vs a 'maybe situation' at another school, and gives us the QB we've all been hoping for. One can hope :) I'll have to stick with "limited". If they are good enough to play on Sunday they do not need a "guaranteed" starting spot. A location like whisky, Florida, unc (most likely) where there is no incumbent provide a better showcase of their skills. If they can not beat out others in waiting then the NFL isn't really an option. Here's hoping one of them sees OHIO as the best place for them as a student. Zaire and Morris are not leaving Notre Dame and Michigan because they can't get high quality educations. They are leaving because they want to play, they want to lead. Most athletes want to make it to the highest level, they don't put in the work for participation trophies. There were NFL scouts at multiple Ohio practices. North Carolina has the same amount of QB's in the NFL as Ohio. Wisconsin has Russell Wilson who was an NC State transfer and Scott tolzien so they are not champion breeders of NFL QB's. Wisconsin has a redshirt freshman, who they say is decent and North Carolina has a couple of guys. Here is a reference to support what I just said. “I do think about that,” Smith said of teams focusing on him. “They’re just showing me respect on the field. It’s a sense of respect.” He also has the respect and interest of NFL teams. Ranked the No. 69 receiver in the upcoming draft by NFL Draft Scout, multiple professional teams have attended Ohio practice and inquired about the receiver. He said the scouts watching practice only provided more incentive to improve. “He’s got a shot,” Dixon said. “He’s got a lot of pluses that the NFL guys look for. I think he’s smart enough.” Now it’s just a matter of consistently performing and helping the Bobcats. “It’s just a blessing,” Smith said about his growth as a player. “As a young boy, I always thought about (the NFL). … I’ve always been an independent type of guy, just come in, take care of business and get out. I’m just a hard worker.” @charliehatch_ http://www.thepostathens.com/article/2016/10/sebastian-sm... Here's a thought. Don't waste your time on a grad transfer QB....go recruit a good HS QB that can make a difference for more than one year. They've failed in that regard repeatedly. Excellent point! And I agree. A grad transfer QB is putting a band aid on the problem. You'll turn around and have the exact same problem next year. Look at the success teams have had like CMU, NIU and BG with QBs that they recruited and developed with guys like Dan LeFevour, Jordan Lynch and Matt Johnson who led them to multiple titles. Yes, this strategy makes the most sense, but if we don't think we have that QB on the roster right now then brining on a one year QB is fine. No QB is going to come in as a true Freshman and win the MAC. LeFevour took a redshirt year, Matt Johnson didn't start until his third year and Lynch wasn't the starter until his 4th year at NIU. I wasn't saying a true frosh was going to come in and win the MAC. I was saying you can get a good one, develop him, and he could be capable of winning as some of our peers like those schools have done and proven. I'm actually struggling to remember the last MAC team to rent a grad transfer QB. Didn't Miami have a Notre Dame QB transfer a few years ago? Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: What did I miss??    Posted: 1/15/2017 10:58:52 PM  A good grad transfer is a good grad transfer. A guy like Zaire would drastically improve our offense. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. 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