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bshot44
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   Posted: 12/28/2016 10:08:34 PM 
C Money wrote:
Doc Bobcat wrote:
If word on the street is correct we can change this story from bizarre to Ohio being the pick for MACC 2017.



Ok, let's get nuts. Insanely unbelievable possibilities:
1. We get an osu QB transfer, but not Burrow: JT Barrett
2. Harbaugh to the NFL is legit, so Jabrill Peppers follows the trail blazed by Keith Heitzman and Tom Strobel and transfers to Ohio
3. Tyrone Swoopes gets an extra year of eligibility from the NCAA for some reason and doesn't like Tom Herman.
4. Ummmmmm, someone from Alabama? Jalen Hurts should be the starter the next 3 years, so one of their 4 star backup QBs swung by Mobile, chatted with Isphording, and signed on?
5. Gary Trent Jr.






You forgot Belicheck leaves New England to join Frank's staff and learn from Tim Albin
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   Posted: 12/28/2016 10:40:38 PM 
bshot44 wrote:
C Money wrote:
Doc Bobcat wrote:
If word on the street is correct we can change this story from bizarre to Ohio being the pick for MACC 2017.



Ok, let's get nuts. Insanely unbelievable possibilities:
1. We get an osu QB transfer, but not Burrow: JT Barrett
2. Harbaugh to the NFL is legit, so Jabrill Peppers follows the trail blazed by Keith Heitzman and Tom Strobel and transfers to Ohio
3. Tyrone Swoopes gets an extra year of eligibility from the NCAA for some reason and doesn't like Tom Herman.
4. Ummmmmm, someone from Alabama? Jalen Hurts should be the starter the next 3 years, so one of their 4 star backup QBs swung by Mobile, chatted with Isphording, and signed on?
5. Gary Trent Jr.




You forgot Belicheck leaves New England to join Frank's staff and learn from Tim Albin


Nah, I talked to Bill at our Boxing Day party. He said he was passing on the Ohio job.
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   Posted: 12/28/2016 11:12:54 PM 
mf279801 wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
C Money wrote:
Doc Bobcat wrote:
If word on the street is correct we can change this story from bizarre to Ohio being the pick for MACC 2017.



Ok, let's get nuts. Insanely unbelievable possibilities:
1. We get an osu QB transfer, but not Burrow: JT Barrett
2. Harbaugh to the NFL is legit, so Jabrill Peppers follows the trail blazed by Keith Heitzman and Tom Strobel and transfers to Ohio
3. Tyrone Swoopes gets an extra year of eligibility from the NCAA for some reason and doesn't like Tom Herman.
4. Ummmmmm, someone from Alabama? Jalen Hurts should be the starter the next 3 years, so one of their 4 star backup QBs swung by Mobile, chatted with Isphording, and signed on?
5. Gary Trent Jr.




You forgot Belicheck leaves New England to join Frank's staff and learn from Tim Albin


Nah, I talked to Bill at our Boxing Day party. He said he was passing on the Ohio job.

Burrow coming here would be great and it makes sense, especially if he fast tracked and graduated and does not want to sit another year. He would start right away and probably lead us to winning the mAC and create his legacy. Zaire makes sense, if he wants to be a guaranteed starter. Morris makes sense, he has been linked to CMU, but would be a better fit here. Medi's, you have to believe. Barrett has started at OSU and he would not go in the third round in this years draft.


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  Message Not Read  RE: What did I miss??
   Posted: 12/29/2016 9:33:40 AM 
allen wrote:
mf279801 wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
C Money wrote:
Doc Bobcat wrote:
If word on the street is correct we can change this story from bizarre to Ohio being the pick for MACC 2017.



Ok, let's get nuts. Insanely unbelievable possibilities:
1. We get an osu QB transfer, but not Burrow: JT Barrett
2. Harbaugh to the NFL is legit, so Jabrill Peppers follows the trail blazed by Keith Heitzman and Tom Strobel and transfers to Ohio
3. Tyrone Swoopes gets an extra year of eligibility from the NCAA for some reason and doesn't like Tom Herman.
4. Ummmmmm, someone from Alabama? Jalen Hurts should be the starter the next 3 years, so one of their 4 star backup QBs swung by Mobile, chatted with Isphording, and signed on?
5. Gary Trent Jr.




You forgot Belicheck leaves New England to join Frank's staff and learn from Tim Albin


Nah, I talked to Bill at our Boxing Day party. He said he was passing on the Ohio job.

Burrow coming here would be great and it makes sense, especially if he fast tracked and graduated and does not want to sit another year. He would start right away and probably lead us to winning the mAC and create his legacy. Zaire makes sense, if he wants to be a guaranteed starter. Morris makes sense, he has been linked to CMU, but would be a better fit here. Medi's, you have to believe. Barrett has started at OSU and he would not go in the third round in this years draft.


How in the world can you say Morris is a better fit here over CMU?

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   Posted: 12/29/2016 9:43:50 AM 
Zaire article today says he is waiting until April to make his decision.

Word on the street was that he was the one.
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   Posted: 12/29/2016 9:50:49 AM 
Zaire would be monstrous. He could play right away and he would make us instant contenders. We could go undefeated during our nonconference schedule setting us up for a potential BCS bid. This would be a very wise decision. His only concern should be how will Ohio use his whole skill set. Make this happen, please close the deal. Malik please come to Ohio, save our program. This would be better than Cardale Jones. He needs to come and get on the phone and recruit for us. MONSTROUS


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   Posted: 12/29/2016 10:04:03 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
allen wrote:
mf279801 wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
C Money wrote:
Doc Bobcat wrote:
If word on the street is correct we can change this story from bizarre to Ohio being the pick for MACC 2017.



Ok, let's get nuts. Insanely unbelievable possibilities:
1. We get an osu QB transfer, but not Burrow: JT Barrett
2. Harbaugh to the NFL is legit, so Jabrill Peppers follows the trail blazed by Keith Heitzman and Tom Strobel and transfers to Ohio
3. Tyrone Swoopes gets an extra year of eligibility from the NCAA for some reason and doesn't like Tom Herman.
4. Ummmmmm, someone from Alabama? Jalen Hurts should be the starter the next 3 years, so one of their 4 star backup QBs swung by Mobile, chatted with Isphording, and signed on?
5. Gary Trent Jr.




You forgot Belicheck leaves New England to join Frank's staff and learn from Tim Albin


Nah, I talked to Bill at our Boxing Day party. He said he was passing on the Ohio job.

Burrow coming here would be great and it makes sense, especially if he fast tracked and graduated and does not want to sit another year. He would start right away and probably lead us to winning the mAC and create his legacy. Zaire makes sense, if he wants to be a guaranteed starter. Morris makes sense, he has been linked to CMU, but would be a better fit here. Medi's, you have to believe. Barrett has started at OSU and he would not go in the third round in this years draft.


How in the world can you say Morris is a better fit here over CMU?



Grad school in his field. Same track as Heitzman & Strobel.


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   Posted: 12/29/2016 10:09:33 AM 
Doc Bobcat wrote:
Zaire article today says he is waiting until April to make his decision.

Word on the street was that he was the one.


I know you can't believe everything you read,but up until today,the articles I saw had him going to Wisconsin or North Carolina.

The most recent articles talk about him maybe going to Florida,if the SEC can "bend" the current transfer restrictions for Florida.

No offense,but if he has offers from these programs,why would we be in the mix ?


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   Posted: 12/29/2016 10:12:42 AM 
Agree. Wouldn't he want a national showcase?

If you were in his shoes, what would be your best choice?


Also, there's dis-connect between a joyous tweet by one of our staff (which tweet is very non-specific) and the article that says a decision will be several months in coming.


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   Posted: 12/29/2016 10:16:34 AM 
allen wrote:
Zaire would be monstrous. He could play right away and he would make us instant contenders. We could go undefeated during our nonconference schedule setting us up for a potential BCS bid. This would be a very wise decision. His only concern should be how will Ohio use his whole skill set. Make this happen, please close the deal. Malik please come to Ohio, save our program. This would be better than Cardale Jones. He needs to come and get on the phone and recruit for us. MONSTROUS



"Malik please come to Ohio, save our program." Right, every program needs a one year savior. Really, Ohio is better than it has been since WWII and needs "saved."


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   Posted: 12/29/2016 10:21:47 AM 
Bcat2 wrote:
allen wrote:
Zaire would be monstrous. He could play right away and he would make us instant contenders. We could go undefeated during our nonconference schedule setting us up for a potential BCS bid. This would be a very wise decision. His only concern should be how will Ohio use his whole skill set. Make this happen, please close the deal. Malik please come to Ohio, save our program. This would be better than Cardale Jones. He needs to come and get on the phone and recruit for us. MONSTROUS



"Malik please come to Ohio, save our program." Right, every program needs a one year savior. Really, Ohio is better than it has been since WWII and needs "saved."

Zaire would be the starter and could lead Ohio to a BCS, which will bring a lot of eyes to himself. That would be heck of a national showcase, going to Wisconsin and losing to Michigan and Ohio State gets him no where. Going to Florida and losing to Alabama gets him no where. NC might be tantalizing, but we are the fast track to the BCS. He can have his own legacy and get showcased.


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   Posted: 12/29/2016 10:37:42 AM 
allen wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
allen wrote:
Zaire would be monstrous. He could play right away and he would make us instant contenders. We could go undefeated during our nonconference schedule setting us up for a potential BCS bid. This would be a very wise decision. His only concern should be how will Ohio use his whole skill set. Make this happen, please close the deal. Malik please come to Ohio, save our program. This would be better than Cardale Jones. He needs to come and get on the phone and recruit for us. MONSTROUS



"Malik please come to Ohio, save our program." Right, every program needs a one year savior. Really, Ohio is better than it has been since WWII and needs "saved."

Zaire would be the starter and could lead Ohio to a BCS, which will bring a lot of eyes to himself. That would be heck of a national showcase, going to Wisconsin and losing to Michigan and Ohio State gets him no where. Going to Florida and losing to Alabama gets him no where. NC might be tantalizing, but we are the fast track to the BCS. He can have his own legacy and get showcased.



"Zaire would be the starter and could lead Ohio to a BCS," Look Monroe, allen has gone rogue. He has Ohio one player away from the BCS. Wait, a moment ago he was saying Ohio needs saving. "but we are the fast track to the BCS." Monroe, allen totally off the reservation.


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   Posted: 12/29/2016 10:44:28 AM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Agree. Wouldn't he want a national showcase?

If you were in his shoes, what would be your best choice?


Also, there's dis-connect between a joyous tweet by one of our staff (which tweet is very non-specific) and the article that says a decision will be several months in coming.



It was more than one tweet....also see Alan's An Irishman? thread.
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   Posted: 12/29/2016 10:46:48 AM 
Bcat2 wrote:
allen wrote:
Zaire would be monstrous. He could play right away and he would make us instant contenders. We could go undefeated during our nonconference schedule setting us up for a potential BCS bid. This would be a very wise decision. His only concern should be how will Ohio use his whole skill set. Make this happen, please close the deal. Malik please come to Ohio, save our program. This would be better than Cardale Jones. He needs to come and get on the phone and recruit for us. MONSTROUS



"Malik please come to Ohio, save our program." Right, every program needs a one year savior. Really, Ohio is better than it has been since WWII and needs "saved."


How is wanting Zaire to come here and play any different than Morris? That's a one year solution too but you love that one.

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   Posted: 12/29/2016 11:02:39 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
allen wrote:
Zaire would be monstrous. He could play right away and he would make us instant contenders. We could go undefeated during our nonconference schedule setting us up for a potential BCS bid. This would be a very wise decision. His only concern should be how will Ohio use his whole skill set. Make this happen, please close the deal. Malik please come to Ohio, save our program. This would be better than Cardale Jones. He needs to come and get on the phone and recruit for us. MONSTROUS



"Malik please come to Ohio, save our program." Right, every program needs a one year savior. Really, Ohio is better than it has been since WWII and needs "saved."


How is wanting Zaire to come here and play any different than Morris? That's a one year solution too but you love that one.



I like Malik more than Morris. He has performed at a high level at Notre Dame, while Morris underperformed. Morris could have some success here as well. Morris is a gamer as well.


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   Posted: 12/29/2016 11:03:51 AM 
My curiosity has finally gotten the best of me. I reached out to a friend of mine who works in the athletic department. I asked him if he knew any details about this topic. He wouldn't elaborate any further than "Ohio looks to be 'renting' a QB next year." To be clear, he didn't say who or if it's a done deal. But to me, that sounds like a transfer with one year of eligibility.
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   Posted: 12/29/2016 11:12:33 AM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
My curiosity has finally gotten the best of me. I reached out to a friend of mine who works in the athletic department. I asked him if he knew any details about this topic. He wouldn't elaborate any further than "Ohio looks to be 'renting' a QB next year." To be clear, he didn't say who or if it's a done deal. But to me, that sounds like a transfer with one year of eligibility.


Sounds good... though I prefer Zaire over Morris...Morris could have his chance to shine and make the most of it.
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   Posted: 12/29/2016 11:20:41 AM 
Doc Bobcat wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
My curiosity has finally gotten the best of me. I reached out to a friend of mine who works in the athletic department. I asked him if he knew any details about this topic. He wouldn't elaborate any further than "Ohio looks to be 'renting' a QB next year." To be clear, he didn't say who or if it's a done deal. But to me, that sounds like a transfer with one year of eligibility.


Sounds good... though I prefer Zaire over Morris...Morris could have his chance to shine and make the most of it.


When you look at the "reported" options these two have in terms of interested schools, Zaire has a much greater number, which would also make sense since he announced his intentions a while ago. But when I look at the list of those schools and compare them to Ohio, I am left wondering why in the world he would choose Ohio over almost any of them for numerous reasons? It would be a huge head scratcher IMO. I feel like Morris will end up at a MAC school. But if Zaire does too, well then he will have really fallen off the deep end from what he was declaring and boasting about in 2015.

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   Posted: 12/29/2016 11:24:36 AM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
Doc Bobcat wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
My curiosity has finally gotten the best of me. I reached out to a friend of mine who works in the athletic department. I asked him if he knew any details about this topic. He wouldn't elaborate any further than "Ohio looks to be 'renting' a QB next year." To be clear, he didn't say who or if it's a done deal. But to me, that sounds like a transfer with one year of eligibility.


Sounds good... though I prefer Zaire over Morris...Morris could have his chance to shine and make the most of it.


When you look at the "reported" options these two have in terms of interested schools, Zaire has a much greater number, which would also make sense since he announced his intentions a while ago. But when I look at the list of those schools and compare them to Ohio, I am left wondering why in the world he would choose Ohio over almost any of them for numerous reasons? It would be a huge head scratcher IMO. I feel like Morris will end up at a MAC school. But if Zaire does too, well then he will have really fell off the deep end from what he was declaring and boasting about in 2015.

Why did Big Ben go to Miami?
Zaire is from Ohio and could run the table and go to a BCS game. It starts with a vision not bounded in mediocrity. Are you an alpha? Can you put a team on your back? Do you just want a tune up or do you want memories?


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   Posted: 12/29/2016 11:36:43 AM 
allen wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
allen wrote:
Zaire would be monstrous. He could play right away and he would make us instant contenders. We could go undefeated during our nonconference schedule setting us up for a potential BCS bid. This would be a very wise decision. His only concern should be how will Ohio use his whole skill set. Make this happen, please close the deal. Malik please come to Ohio, save our program. This would be better than Cardale Jones. He needs to come and get on the phone and recruit for us. MONSTROUS



"Malik please come to Ohio, save our program." Right, every program needs a one year savior. Really, Ohio is better than it has been since WWII and needs "saved."

Zaire would be the starter and could lead Ohio to a BCS, which will bring a lot of eyes to himself. That would be heck of a national showcase, going to Wisconsin and losing to Michigan and Ohio State gets him no where. Going to Florida and losing to Alabama gets him no where. NC might be tantalizing, but we are the fast track to the BCS. He can have his own legacy and get showcased.



While I love the optimism....I find two flaws in this thinking

1) Do you really think Malik Zaire is good enough to lead Ohio to a CFP spot or a NY6 game? With Ohio's schedule?!?! Hampton, Kansas, Purdue and UMass??? Those four teams might combine to win 7 games (plus whatever Hampton wins in FCS). That is a pretty pitiful non-conf schedule. KU and Purdue could possibly be the worst two P5 teams in the country.

WMU barely made the NY6 (thanks for gagging Navy) and they were 13-0 with road wins at Northwestern and Illinois (both better than KU at home and at Purdue)

Ohio with Zaire at 13-0 better beat everyone by about 25 ppg to even have a prayer of cracking an NY6 game with that schedule.

2) If Zaire isn't "deciding" until April....why would Ohio coaches be jumping for joy on social media in December? I still stand by my earlier statement that if he was reportedly weighing a decision between Wisky, UNC and Baylor.....how the hell does Ohio fit into that equation???

If anything...Morris makes more sense. He's an under-the-radar guy that is a sports ad major that I'm guessing most P5 schools wouldn't waste time on for a one-year rental considering he couldn't start at UM even during the garbage Hoke years.

Not to mention the recent UM-Ohio grad transfer pipeline.

And considering UM hasn't played their bowl game yet, I'm guessing Morris is waiting until they are done before he announces to avoid it being any distraction/nonsense during bowl prep.

And for the record...even if Morris comes......who's he throwing too? Who's blocking for him? What RB will remain healthy to help shoulder the load? What LBs/DLs are going to stop the run on defense?

There are a lot of questions for 2017 for Ohio football......while a talented, older QB is a nice addition....it doesn't mask the many other potential potholes this team will encounter next season.
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   Posted: 12/29/2016 11:56:10 AM 
bshot44 wrote:
allen wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
allen wrote:
Zaire would be monstrous. He could play right away and he would make us instant contenders. We could go undefeated during our nonconference schedule setting us up for a potential BCS bid. This would be a very wise decision. His only concern should be how will Ohio use his whole skill set. Make this happen, please close the deal. Malik please come to Ohio, save our program. This would be better than Cardale Jones. He needs to come and get on the phone and recruit for us. MONSTROUS



"Malik please come to Ohio, save our program." Right, every program needs a one year savior. Really, Ohio is better than it has been since WWII and needs "saved."

Zaire would be the starter and could lead Ohio to a BCS, which will bring a lot of eyes to himself. That would be heck of a national showcase, going to Wisconsin and losing to Michigan and Ohio State gets him no where. Going to Florida and losing to Alabama gets him no where. NC might be tantalizing, but we are the fast track to the BCS. He can have his own legacy and get showcased.



While I love the optimism....I find two flaws in this thinking

1) Do you really think Malik Zaire is good enough to lead Ohio to a CFP spot or a NY6 game? With Ohio's schedule?!?! Hampton, Kansas, Purdue and UMass??? Those four teams might combine to win 7 games (plus whatever Hampton wins in FCS). That is a pretty pitiful non-conf schedule. KU and Purdue could possibly be the worst two P5 teams in the country.

WMU barely made the NY6 (thanks for gagging Navy) and they were 13-0 with road wins at Northwestern and Illinois (both better than KU at home and at Purdue)

Ohio with Zaire at 13-0 better beat everyone by about 25 ppg to even have a prayer of cracking an NY6 game with that schedule.

2) If Zaire isn't "deciding" until April....why would Ohio coaches be jumping for joy on social media in December? I still stand by my earlier statement that if he was reportedly weighing a decision between Wisky, UNC and Baylor.....how the hell does Ohio fit into that equation???

If anything...Morris makes more sense. He's an under-the-radar guy that is a sports ad major that I'm guessing most P5 schools wouldn't waste time on for a one-year rental considering he couldn't start at UM even during the garbage Hoke years.

Not to mention the recent UM-Ohio grad transfer pipeline.

And considering UM hasn't played their bowl game yet, I'm guessing Morris is waiting until they are done before he announces to avoid it being any distraction/nonsense during bowl prep.

And for the record...even if Morris comes......who's he throwing too? Who's blocking for him? What RB will remain healthy to help shoulder the load? What LBs/DLs are going to stop the run on defense?

There are a lot of questions for 2017 for Ohio football......while a talented, older QB is a nice addition....it doesn't mask the many other potential potholes this team will encounter next season.


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   Posted: 12/29/2016 11:59:32 AM 
bshot44 wrote:
allen wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
allen wrote:
Zaire would be monstrous. He could play right away and he would make us instant contenders. We could go undefeated during our nonconference schedule setting us up for a potential BCS bid. This would be a very wise decision. His only concern should be how will Ohio use his whole skill set. Make this happen, please close the deal. Malik please come to Ohio, save our program. This would be better than Cardale Jones. He needs to come and get on the phone and recruit for us. MONSTROUS



"Malik please come to Ohio, save our program." Right, every program needs a one year savior. Really, Ohio is better than it has been since WWII and needs "saved."

Zaire would be the starter and could lead Ohio to a BCS, which will bring a lot of eyes to himself. That would be heck of a national showcase, going to Wisconsin and losing to Michigan and Ohio State gets him no where. Going to Florida and losing to Alabama gets him no where. NC might be tantalizing, but we are the fast track to the BCS. He can have his own legacy and get showcased.



While I love the optimism....I find two flaws in this thinking

1) Do you really think Malik Zaire is good enough to lead Ohio to a CFP spot or a NY6 game? With Ohio's schedule?!?! Hampton, Kansas, Purdue and UMass??? Those four teams might combine to win 7 games (plus whatever Hampton wins in FCS). That is a pretty pitiful non-conf schedule. KU and Purdue could possibly be the worst two P5 teams in the country.

WMU barely made the NY6 (thanks for gagging Navy) and they were 13-0 with road wins at Northwestern and Illinois (both better than KU at home and at Purdue)

Ohio with Zaire at 13-0 better beat everyone by about 25 ppg to even have a prayer of cracking an NY6 game with that schedule.

2) If Zaire isn't "deciding" until April....why would Ohio coaches be jumping for joy on social media in December? I still stand by my earlier statement that if he was reportedly weighing a decision between Wisky, UNC and Baylor.....how the hell does Ohio fit into that equation???

If anything...Morris makes more sense. He's an under-the-radar guy that is a sports ad major that I'm guessing most P5 schools wouldn't waste time on for a one-year rental considering he couldn't start at UM even during the garbage Hoke years.

Not to mention the recent UM-Ohio grad transfer pipeline.

And considering UM hasn't played their bowl game yet, I'm guessing Morris is waiting until they are done before he announces to avoid it being any distraction/nonsense during bowl prep.

And for the record...even if Morris comes......who's he throwing too? Who's blocking for him? What RB will remain healthy to help shoulder the load? What LBs/DLs are going to stop the run on defense?

There are a lot of questions for 2017 for Ohio football......while a talented, older QB is a nice addition....it doesn't mask the many other potential potholes this team will encounter next season.


Well said, bshot.

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   Posted: 12/29/2016 1:39:20 PM 
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bshot44 wrote:
allen wrote:
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Zaire would be monstrous. He could play right away and he would make us instant contenders. We could go undefeated during our nonconference schedule setting us up for a potential BCS bid. This would be a very wise decision. His only concern should be how will Ohio use his whole skill set. Make this happen, please close the deal. Malik please come to Ohio, save our program. This would be better than Cardale Jones. He needs to come and get on the phone and recruit for us. MONSTROUS



"Malik please come to Ohio, save our program." Right, every program needs a one year savior. Really, Ohio is better than it has been since WWII and needs "saved."

Zaire would be the starter and could lead Ohio to a BCS, which will bring a lot of eyes to himself. That would be heck of a national showcase, going to Wisconsin and losing to Michigan and Ohio State gets him no where. Going to Florida and losing to Alabama gets him no where. NC might be tantalizing, but we are the fast track to the BCS. He can have his own legacy and get showcased.



While I love the optimism....I find two flaws in this thinking

1) Do you really think Malik Zaire is good enough to lead Ohio to a CFP spot or a NY6 game? With Ohio's schedule?!?! Hampton, Kansas, Purdue and UMass??? Those four teams might combine to win 7 games (plus whatever Hampton wins in FCS). That is a pretty pitiful non-conf schedule. KU and Purdue could possibly be the worst two P5 teams in the country.

WMU barely made the NY6 (thanks for gagging Navy) and they were 13-0 with road wins at Northwestern and Illinois (both better than KU at home and at Purdue)

Ohio with Zaire at 13-0 better beat everyone by about 25 ppg to even have a prayer of cracking an NY6 game with that schedule.

2) If Zaire isn't "deciding" until April....why would Ohio coaches be jumping for joy on social media in December? I still stand by my earlier statement that if he was reportedly weighing a decision between Wisky, UNC and Baylor.....how the hell does Ohio fit into that equation???

If anything...Morris makes more sense. He's an under-the-radar guy that is a sports ad major that I'm guessing most P5 schools wouldn't waste time on for a one-year rental considering he couldn't start at UM even during the garbage Hoke years.

Not to mention the recent UM-Ohio grad transfer pipeline.

And considering UM hasn't played their bowl game yet, I'm guessing Morris is waiting until they are done before he announces to avoid it being any distraction/nonsense during bowl prep.

And for the record...even if Morris comes......who's he throwing too? Who's blocking for him? What RB will remain healthy to help shoulder the load? What LBs/DLs are going to stop the run on defense?

There are a lot of questions for 2017 for Ohio football......while a talented, older QB is a nice addition....it doesn't mask the many other potential potholes this team will encounter next season.


Well said, bshot.



We will play a ranked WMU in the MAC championship.


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   Posted: 12/29/2016 2:58:35 PM 
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If anything...Morris makes more sense. He's an under-the-radar guy that is a sports ad major that I'm guessing most P5 schools wouldn't waste time on for a one-year rental considering he couldn't start at UM even during the garbage Hoke years.

Not to mention the recent UM-Ohio grad transfer pipeline.
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I have no reason to believe that if Zaire considered Ohio that it would be impossible for him to choose Ohio. There are also good reasons he might choose another school. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

I do agree that Morris makes more sense, which is why I started a thread about him before this whole hoopla started, though it's down to page 3 now:
http://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPa...

In any case, it's important to remember that there is another QB that just enrolled from JUCO who will have 4 years to play 3, Nathan Rourke. He, like Zaire, has dreams of playing in the NFL, and believes he can get there from Ohio. Whoever the 1 year transfer is, they will have to beat out Rourke and Maxwell for the starting job. If they do, Rourke might redshirt, and Maxwell would be the backup.

As for Maxwell, I think he'll continue to improve, but he'll need to improve if he's going to take Ohio to a MACC. As for Rourke, I think he will have to adjust to the speed of Division 1, but he is a proven winner, and I do think that he has the potential to play in the NFL someday.

Ohio was a very good team this year, but they were a QB away from a MACC and a bowl win. That's why this matters.


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   Posted: 12/29/2016 3:48:53 PM 
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My curiosity has finally gotten the best of me. I reached out to a friend of mine who works in the athletic department. I asked him if he knew any details about this topic. He wouldn't elaborate any further than "Ohio looks to be 'renting' a QB next year." To be clear, he didn't say who or if it's a done deal. But to me, that sounds like a transfer with one year of eligibility.


Sounds good... though I prefer Zaire over Morris...Morris could have his chance to shine and make the most of it.


When you look at the "reported" options these two have in terms of interested schools, Zaire has a much greater number, which would also make sense since he announced his intentions a while ago. But when I look at the list of those schools and compare them to Ohio, I am left wondering why in the world he would choose Ohio over almost any of them for numerous reasons? It would be a huge head scratcher IMO. I feel like Morris will end up at a MAC school. But if Zaire does too, well then he will have really fell off the deep end from what he was declaring and boasting about in 2015.

Why did Big Ben go to Miami?


That is completely talking apples and oranges. First of all, Big Ben wasn't nearly as highly rated as Zaire coming out of HS, not even close. In fact, most schools were even looking at him or offering him as a QB, they were looking at them as a TE. Second of all, Big Ben went to Miami and stayed at Miami for his career before leaving for the NFL. He didn't transfer to another school. He didn't go to Notre Dame and leave for a MAC school like Miami. Zaire was heavily rated and recruited and had a ton of offers an options and chose Notre Dame. He boasted about being the best QB in the nation and winning a national championship just over a year ago. Going from starting a game in 2016 for Notre Dame to starting a game in 2017 vs Hampton for Ohio is a world of difference. If Zaire actually ends up at Ohio over his list of options I think it says a lot.
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