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Everything Pete said is true. Ohio football blew a chance to make a great first impression on a bunch of people Saturday night. The product on the field is by far the most annoying thing to me, but there is a lot of stuff that has not changed for decades. I know a video board is unaffordable, but is it really that expensive to get speakers loud enough for the crowd to hear? And, who is in charge of turning up the volume on the referee's microphone? There were certainly enough breaks in the action for someone on the production team to let him know nobody could hear him. I am all for getting our product on tv and don't know how to speed up that aspect, but if Ohio could've taken care of a team they were favored to beat by 20 in their home opener, we would have been out of town before dark. Our boring, passive, undisciplined play allowed the bonus time to happen in the first place. By the time the game ended, we were all in midseason form. The team snatched defeat from the claws of victory, the students were awol, the tower side stands were thin and there was a mixture of folks that were utterly surprised by the collapse and those that fully expected it. Pete can call it general chaos, I'll call it Bobcat football. Soo sorry all those Bobcats let you down. Surely with all you have invested you deserve better. Certainly you have more skin in this than even Wood, Gibbons, Lowery or Mangen and now Ouellette having serious injuries. Yes, you deserve better. Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from. The skin is $ as well as "loyalty". Can donate/support OHIO multiple ways - academics, athletics, etc. Success generally leads to more success - Any type of fundraising, Bobcat Club donations, tic sales, general operating funds, personnal time travelling to support, etc. "Deserved" is what pot the $'s go into from "Earned" over the long run..... Like I said, " Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from." Uh - The "entitled" is the receiver of the $'s......as long as they get it. You only mention 4 examples and they of course are not the issue here....... Four examples are enough, though, you know there are many more and they are absolutely the issue here. These players are injured and rehab like soldiers. Hate to go all Monroe like, but, " Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from." "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top bobcat695 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Parkersburg, WV Post Count: 1,345 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/6/2016 11:40:51 PM  Bcat2 wrote: bobcat695 wrote: The whole thing is wearing thin for me, and I am maybe the most loyal fan in the entire stadium, having seen nearly every minute of football played in Peden for the past 26 seasons. Everything Pete said is true. Ohio football blew a chance to make a great first impression on a bunch of people Saturday night. The product on the field is by far the most annoying thing to me, but there is a lot of stuff that has not changed for decades. I know a video board is unaffordable, but is it really that expensive to get speakers loud enough for the crowd to hear? And, who is in charge of turning up the volume on the referee's microphone? There were certainly enough breaks in the action for someone on the production team to let him know nobody could hear him. I am all for getting our product on tv and don't know how to speed up that aspect, but if Ohio could've taken care of a team they were favored to beat by 20 in their home opener, we would have been out of town before dark. Our boring, passive, undisciplined play allowed the bonus time to happen in the first place. By the time the game ended, we were all in midseason form. The team snatched defeat from the claws of victory, the students were awol, the tower side stands were thin and there was a mixture of folks that were utterly surprised by the collapse and those that fully expected it. Pete can call it general chaos, I'll call it Bobcat football. Soo sorry all those Bobcats let you down. Surely with all you have invested you deserve better. Certainly you have more skin in this than even Wood, Gibbons, Lowery or Mangen and now Ouellette having serious injuries. Yes, you deserve better. Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from. You don't get it. For decades, I have purchased many tickets, hosted donor events, been an official liaison for the athletic department, faithfully attended games and written many checks. I didn't say I was owed anything. I am happy to give back. My point is that I am in the extreme minority. I have much more tolerance than the majority of folks inside the stadium Saturday. If the group I am in is losing interest, the casual fan is not going to wait long enough for the utopia you believe is just around the corner. "You can't un-fist a fist pump." - Saul Phillips 1/24/15 Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,401 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/7/2016 12:04:57 AM  bobcat695 wrote: Bcat2 wrote: bobcat695 wrote: The whole thing is wearing thin for me, and I am maybe the most loyal fan in the entire stadium, having seen nearly every minute of football played in Peden for the past 26 seasons. Everything Pete said is true. Ohio football blew a chance to make a great first impression on a bunch of people Saturday night. The product on the field is by far the most annoying thing to me, but there is a lot of stuff that has not changed for decades. I know a video board is unaffordable, but is it really that expensive to get speakers loud enough for the crowd to hear? And, who is in charge of turning up the volume on the referee's microphone? There were certainly enough breaks in the action for someone on the production team to let him know nobody could hear him. I am all for getting our product on tv and don't know how to speed up that aspect, but if Ohio could've taken care of a team they were favored to beat by 20 in their home opener, we would have been out of town before dark. Our boring, passive, undisciplined play allowed the bonus time to happen in the first place. By the time the game ended, we were all in midseason form. The team snatched defeat from the claws of victory, the students were awol, the tower side stands were thin and there was a mixture of folks that were utterly surprised by the collapse and those that fully expected it. Pete can call it general chaos, I'll call it Bobcat football. Soo sorry all those Bobcats let you down. Surely with all you have invested you deserve better. Certainly you have more skin in this than even Wood, Gibbons, Lowery or Mangen and now Ouellette having serious injuries. Yes, you deserve better. Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from. You don't get it. For decades, I have purchased many tickets, hosted donor events, been an official liaison for the athletic department, faithfully attended games and written many checks. I didn't say I was owed anything. I am happy to give back. My point is that I am in the extreme minority. I have much more tolerance than the majority of folks inside the stadium Saturday. If the group I am in is losing interest, the casual fan is not going to wait long enough for the utopia you believe is just around the corner. No he does not get it. I was not on my couch - I drive hours to/fro to games - but may not in future - may decide to just give my $ and time investments to BBall..... I also pay massive tuition etc for my son now - OHIO get's a lotta dough from me.....and I don't have a big stash stuffed under under my couch...... RS Bobcat Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/7/2016 12:15:29 AM  bobcat695 wrote: Bcat2 wrote: bobcat695 wrote: The whole thing is wearing thin for me, and I am maybe the most loyal fan in the entire stadium, having seen nearly every minute of football played in Peden for the past 26 seasons. Everything Pete said is true. Ohio football blew a chance to make a great first impression on a bunch of people Saturday night. The product on the field is by far the most annoying thing to me, but there is a lot of stuff that has not changed for decades. I know a video board is unaffordable, but is it really that expensive to get speakers loud enough for the crowd to hear? And, who is in charge of turning up the volume on the referee's microphone? There were certainly enough breaks in the action for someone on the production team to let him know nobody could hear him. I am all for getting our product on tv and don't know how to speed up that aspect, but if Ohio could've taken care of a team they were favored to beat by 20 in their home opener, we would have been out of town before dark. Our boring, passive, undisciplined play allowed the bonus time to happen in the first place. By the time the game ended, we were all in midseason form. The team snatched defeat from the claws of victory, the students were awol, the tower side stands were thin and there was a mixture of folks that were utterly surprised by the collapse and those that fully expected it. Pete can call it general chaos, I'll call it Bobcat football. Soo sorry all those Bobcats let you down. Surely with all you have invested you deserve better. Certainly you have more skin in this than even Wood, Gibbons, Lowery or Mangen and now Ouellette having serious injuries. Yes, you deserve better. Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from. You don't get it. For decades, I have purchased many tickets, hosted donor events, been an official liaison for the athletic department, faithfully attended games and written many checks. I didn't say I was owed anything. I am happy to give back. My point is that I am in the extreme minority. I have much more tolerance than the majority of folks inside the stadium Saturday. If the group I am in is losing interest, the casual fan is not going to wait long enough for the utopia you believe is just around the corner. Lose interest if you like. After decades interest in anything can fade. Just received an email, as a season ticket holder, notifying me that this season for the fifth season in a row season ticket sales have risen setting annual records. I too have followed college football for decades and what I have learned is that an 8, 9 or 10, win season with a bowl game is college football utopia. The players are investing of themselves, at great risk to themselves like never before. Be sorry to see you lose interest, though, there seems to be a new generation with renewed vigor buying tickets and even a group ready to travel to exciting places like Kansas to support the Bobcats. If I read you wrong, sorry about that. Yes, last Saturday we did indeed see "Bobact Football." Not great, but, pretty good. If you are close to the team you know these are young men worthy of our continued support, period. Last Edited: 9/7/2016 12:39:50 AM by Bcat2 "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top Cats2014 General User Member Since: 3/29/2014 Post Count: 101 Status: Offline     Game length    Posted: 9/7/2016 7:43:18 AM  The length of the game was incredibly painful. I was there for the whole thing and the TV timeouts were way too long. For students, why would they stay for more than 3 hours? Uptown is a walk away and they can watch on TV. Unless the NCAA powers at be get a grip on this, the mid major schools will suffer from a mass exodus at the gate. Watch the thing on TV instead, at least your ass doesn't get sore from sitting on metal for 4 1/2 hours. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/7/2016 10:05:26 AM  RSBobcat wrote: 4+ hour games with several of those on weeknights will get me to reconsider any future FBall season tic purchases. I'll just watch those TV games from Cbus. And continue to buy BBall season tics and make the drive down and back home on weekday night games getting back home at reasonable hour. What I save from not buying FBall tics will just add to Bobcat Club - re-enforcing my belief by action that this is a "basketball school". All due to decisions of the Athletics Dept, FBall program, marketing/media, and the NCAA - They are all just making that decision too hard for me not to make. I've long felt that we're a "basketball school", and that we should fully embrace that fact with how money is invested into athletics infrastructure. Ohio, and any other similar school in the MAC or other conference, will make more of a name for it's institution by having success in the NCAA tournament that it's able to in football. And the reason is simple: The rules still allow for that to happen, whereas in this "playoff" (hahhaaaa!) they don't. That opinion aside, I view it differently. My approach to Ohio Football, and the purchases I make for it (tickets, Bobcat club, parking passes, etc.) is that it's a great way to spend a day in Athens tailgating, hanging out with friends, and meeting new ones. The actual football game itself is tied for third in the reasons I come down along with watching the 110. Conversely, like you describe, for hoops, I come down for the game mostly. Sometimes, I'm perfectly willing to come by myself for the game and just head back home. It's very unlikely I do that for football, because game day is more about the whole process for me. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/7/2016 5:11:31 PM  Colin Cowherd today: Noted that the best coaches have great staffs and have the staff members recruited away. Example was Belichick 1995 Browns (who, as I recall had a lousy record) staff had 9 people become NFL GM's or head coaches. And Urban Meyer staffers all over (Houston, TX State come to mind). Apparently same with Saban, Pete Carroll, etc. Ohio? Staff together 11+ years and no offers..... Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/7/2016 6:30:16 PM  Monroe Slavin wrote: . . . Ohio? Staff together 11+ years and no offers.... You know this for a fact? The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/7/2016 7:13:22 PM  Fair enough. I amend; no demand significant enough to have pulled one of our staff away. Gotta assume that our salaries are not a barrier given the relatively low money associated with out program...for a more prominent school to make an offer that is clearly better than our staff salaries can't be too difficult. Has anyone heard much at all about our guys in rumors for other spots. Sometimes, what appears to be so actually is so. Low turnover ...low demand is probably the biggest factor. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top bobcat695 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Parkersburg, WV Post Count: 1,345 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/7/2016 8:20:51 PM  Bcat2 wrote: bobcat695 wrote: Bcat2 wrote: bobcat695 wrote: The whole thing is wearing thin for me, and I am maybe the most loyal fan in the entire stadium, having seen nearly every minute of football played in Peden for the past 26 seasons. Everything Pete said is true. Ohio football blew a chance to make a great first impression on a bunch of people Saturday night. The product on the field is by far the most annoying thing to me, but there is a lot of stuff that has not changed for decades. I know a video board is unaffordable, but is it really that expensive to get speakers loud enough for the crowd to hear? And, who is in charge of turning up the volume on the referee's microphone? There were certainly enough breaks in the action for someone on the production team to let him know nobody could hear him. I am all for getting our product on tv and don't know how to speed up that aspect, but if Ohio could've taken care of a team they were favored to beat by 20 in their home opener, we would have been out of town before dark. Our boring, passive, undisciplined play allowed the bonus time to happen in the first place. By the time the game ended, we were all in midseason form. The team snatched defeat from the claws of victory, the students were awol, the tower side stands were thin and there was a mixture of folks that were utterly surprised by the collapse and those that fully expected it. Pete can call it general chaos, I'll call it Bobcat football. Soo sorry all those Bobcats let you down. Surely with all you have invested you deserve better. Certainly you have more skin in this than even Wood, Gibbons, Lowery or Mangen and now Ouellette having serious injuries. Yes, you deserve better. Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from. You don't get it. For decades, I have purchased many tickets, hosted donor events, been an official liaison for the athletic department, faithfully attended games and written many checks. I didn't say I was owed anything. I am happy to give back. My point is that I am in the extreme minority. I have much more tolerance than the majority of folks inside the stadium Saturday. If the group I am in is losing interest, the casual fan is not going to wait long enough for the utopia you believe is just around the corner. Lose interest if you like. After decades interest in anything can fade. Just received an email, as a season ticket holder, notifying me that this season for the fifth season in a row season ticket sales have risen setting annual records. I too have followed college football for decades and what I have learned is that an 8, 9 or 10, win season with a bowl game is college football utopia. The players are investing of themselves, at great risk to themselves like never before. Be sorry to see you lose interest, though, there seems to be a new generation with renewed vigor buying tickets and even a group ready to travel to exciting places like Kansas to support the Bobcats. If I read you wrong, sorry about that. Yes, last Saturday we did indeed see "Bobact Football." Not great, but, pretty good. If you are close to the team you know these are young men worthy of our continued support, period. I understand there was a season ticket record set. I bought 14 season tickets this season, just as I have for the past 10+ years. I'd love to see the percentage of season tickets renewed for five consecutive years. That would be the true measure of sustained growth. Call me a "couch coach" or whatever you want. During the games, you can easily find me. I'm the lone guy in 105 standing up on defensive 3rd downs. I could open up a couch store with the money I've spent on Bobcat athletics. Bcat2, you're disconnected from reality if you cannot see the stagnation. Chastising me for pointing out that there are problems is ludicrous. Your defintion of pretty good and mine are far apart. We are underdogs at Kansas this week. This is the first game in at least 4 seasons that Kansas has been favored to beat a team that didn't play in FCS. A "pretty good" team is not an underdog in a game vs the 121st ranked team. "You can't un-fist a fist pump." - Saul Phillips 1/24/15 Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/7/2016 8:39:18 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Monroe Slavin wrote: . . . Ohio? Staff together 11+ years and no offers.... You know this for a fact? What I believe is that Ohio/Solich has provided stability for coaches who are seeking that. Athens is great, the money is good enough, why leave? Stability and security are magnets for coaches who just want to coach. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,485 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/7/2016 11:11:09 PM  Monroe Slavin wrote: Colin Cowherd today: Noted that the best coaches have great staffs and have the staff members recruited away. Example was Belichick 1995 Browns (who, as I recall had a lousy record) staff had 9 people become NFL GM's or head coaches. And Urban Meyer staffers all over (Houston, TX State come to mind). Apparently same with Saban, Pete Carroll, etc. Ohio? Staff together 11+ years and no offers..... Derek Mason, head coach at Vanderbilt Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,700 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 8:56:58 AM  Pete Chouteau wrote: - Nice job by TV to make a 3:30 start stretch past sunset before summer's even over. Game length has become unsustainable. I may have reached a point where I reconsider my ticket commitment. The game pace and overall length was unbearable, TV or not. I had my 3 kids with me who are usually pretty good at sporting events, but they were a wiggly whiney mess. I should qualify that I have a bit of a love/hate relationship with Football, but I think the sport in general is sloooooooooww. I usually only get to 2ish football games a season but I agree with Pete that I may be reaching the point of reconsidering my ticket commitment. I go to 10+ basketball games a year, usually with kids, and everything about it is just easier and more enjoyable to me & my family. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,922 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 10:19:35 AM  Bcat2 wrote: bobcat695 wrote: Bcat2 wrote: bobcat695 wrote: The whole thing is wearing thin for me, and I am maybe the most loyal fan in the entire stadium, having seen nearly every minute of football played in Peden for the past 26 seasons. Everything Pete said is true. Ohio football blew a chance to make a great first impression on a bunch of people Saturday night. The product on the field is by far the most annoying thing to me, but there is a lot of stuff that has not changed for decades. I know a video board is unaffordable, but is it really that expensive to get speakers loud enough for the crowd to hear? And, who is in charge of turning up the volume on the referee's microphone? There were certainly enough breaks in the action for someone on the production team to let him know nobody could hear him. I am all for getting our product on tv and don't know how to speed up that aspect, but if Ohio could've taken care of a team they were favored to beat by 20 in their home opener, we would have been out of town before dark. Our boring, passive, undisciplined play allowed the bonus time to happen in the first place. By the time the game ended, we were all in midseason form. The team snatched defeat from the claws of victory, the students were awol, the tower side stands were thin and there was a mixture of folks that were utterly surprised by the collapse and those that fully expected it. Pete can call it general chaos, I'll call it Bobcat football. Soo sorry all those Bobcats let you down. Surely with all you have invested you deserve better. Certainly you have more skin in this than even Wood, Gibbons, Lowery or Mangen and now Ouellette having serious injuries. Yes, you deserve better. Another disappointed entitled couch coach heard from. You don't get it. For decades, I have purchased many tickets, hosted donor events, been an official liaison for the athletic department, faithfully attended games and written many checks. I didn't say I was owed anything. I am happy to give back. My point is that I am in the extreme minority. I have much more tolerance than the majority of folks inside the stadium Saturday. If the group I am in is losing interest, the casual fan is not going to wait long enough for the utopia you believe is just around the corner. Lose interest if you like. After decades interest in anything can fade. Just received an email, as a season ticket holder, notifying me that this season for the fifth season in a row season ticket sales have risen setting annual records. I too have followed college football for decades and what I have learned is that an 8, 9 or 10, win season with a bowl game is college football utopia. The players are investing of themselves, at great risk to themselves like never before. Be sorry to see you lose interest, though, there seems to be a new generation with renewed vigor buying tickets and even a group ready to travel to exciting places like Kansas to support the Bobcats. If I read you wrong, sorry about that. Yes, last Saturday we did indeed see "Bobact Football." Not great, but, pretty good. If you are close to the team you know these are young men worthy of our continued support, period. Ticket sales have nowhere to go but up for this program. Have you seen Ohio's history? Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,922 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 10:30:17 AM  Bcat2 wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: Monroe Slavin wrote: . . . Ohio? Staff together 11+ years and no offers.... You know this for a fact? What I believe is that Ohio/Solich has provided stability for coaches who are seeking that. Athens is great, the money is good enough, why leave? Stability and security are magnets for coaches who just want to coach. That is the very definition of apathy and mediocrity. "Oh well, money is good, I like where I live, why try to get anything better?" If that's truly how Ohio's coaches think, then please lets change things up. This isn't Athens, GA. It's Athens, OH. I want coaches who have a FIRE to be better than what they are. Athens, OH is great for normies like us who loved college and never wanted to leave. For a football coach, he should want to win 12 games and get a better job outta there. Ohio plays in the MAC, one maybe two steps up from the worst conferences in college football. Give me some coaches who want to move on to bigger things. That's the nature of MAC schools. Frank and Co. being around for so long is not the standard. They are the exception to the rule. My favorite example of this is Arkansas State. They had 4 different head coaches in 4 years: Hugh Freeze, Gus Malzahn, Bryan Harsin and Blake Anderson. You wanna know their season results? 2011: Freeze, 10-3 and Sun Belt Conference Champs 2012: Malzahn, 10-3, Sun Belt Conference Champs, bowl win 2013: Harsin, 8-5, Sun Belt Conference Co-Champ, bowl win 2014: Anderson, 7-6, bowl game And then another Sun Belt Championship in 2015 at 9-4. Four straight years of instability in the program, yet they've won or shared a Sun Belt championship 4/5 years. Last Edited: 9/8/2016 10:37:28 AM by GoCats105 Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,754 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 10:38:43 AM  Stability or stasis? Big difference. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,485 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 11:21:58 AM  It's obvious on this thread, we have few real football fans and more basketball fans who find going to a football game a casual affair who are inconvenienced by the fact they watched a competitive 3 OT game, in which our players competed hard and laid it on the line for their teammates, coaches and us fans. Sad part is, our fans were inconvenienced with having to sit through a long game. Back to Top Robert Fox General User Member Since: 11/16/2004 Location: Knoxville, TN Post Count: 2,039 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 11:36:59 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: It's obvious on this thread, we have few real football fans and more basketball fans who find going to a football game a casual affair who are inconvenienced by the fact they watched a competitive 3 OT game, in which our players competed hard and laid it on the line for their teammates, coaches and us fans. Sad part is, our fans were inconvenienced with having to sit through a long game. Agree with this. But I do think TV timeouts are too long/too frequent. Not sure how that impacted the game Saturday, but sounds like it wasn't good. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 2,992 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 12:46:50 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: It's obvious on this thread, we have few real football fans and more basketball fans who find going to a football game a casual affair who are inconvenienced by the fact they watched a competitive 3 OT game, in which our players competed hard and laid it on the line for their teammates, coaches and us fans. Sad part is, our fans were inconvenienced with having to sit through a long game. Maybe. Also, don't forget this is where we come to complain. I forget frequently and complain about the complainers posts myself. And then other times I complain as well. That said.... the game was painfully long.... it just was.... Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 2:07:33 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: It's obvious on this thread, we have few real football fans and more basketball fans who find going to a football game a casual affair who are inconvenienced by the fact they watched a competitive 3 OT game, in which our players competed hard and laid it on the line for their teammates, coaches and us fans. Sad part is, our fans were inconvenienced with having to sit through a long game. In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with that. In the same way that I'm a basketball fan first, others are football first. I can name my reasons why, and have on several occasions. I don't know if I'm among the minority, or the majority. Pace and length of the game has a lot to do with it for me. Growing up with a love for college hoops is another. All I can say is this: When we have a reasonably strong football program, and what many consider to be an "exciting" team for this season, and most of the students still left after the 110 finished up, there should be cause for concern. Those are hopefully future season ticket holders that aren't interested in staying for the whole game. I'd like to believe that if the first half was exciting as the second, maybe more hang around. Simply put, for three quarters, that game wasn't terribly fun to watch. Fun to watch, combined with winning, in my opinion, are the biggest factors in putting butts in the seats AND keeping them there. Weather and Game Day experience also contribute, sure. Either way, if I'm Ohio Athletics, I'd want to know why that many people left at halftime. Any game that takes almost 4 hours to play the regulation 4 quarters is something that the NCAA, the MAC, and Ohio Athletics should be concerned about in my opinion. It's the 21st century, where people simply don't have the interest or attention span to sit there for four hours watching a slow moving game. Don't think my point is worth considering? Look at baseball's efforts to speed the game up. College football should be paying attention to this because the Golden Goose that is TV money isn't the only thing that matters, and at some point, the trend of ever increasing TV deals is going to go the other way. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 2:44:58 PM  If you're a current student, in the wake of OSU's success and the way it suffocates the state, are you excited about OHIO FOOTBALL? I'm guessing that they think of a history of losing...if they think of OHIO FOOTBALL at all. Set aside my thoughts that it's stale and a change is needed. Set aside your thoughts that the program's on a relative upswing. Look at this from the student point of view. I'm guessing not much interest in or knowledge of football at OHIO. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top spongeBOB CATpants General User Member Since: 8/16/2016 Post Count: 947 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 4:51:52 PM  Long time reader and first time poster. 2015 grad and rarely missed a football or basketball game since 2010. Monroe is spot on. Ohio st ruins any hope of establishing a great culture for athletics for students. High school seniors with any interest in college sports stay in c-bus, simple as that. Nothing infuriated me more than seeing kids walking around in red jerseys on Saturdays. Court st takes priority over pretty much everything in Athens from a students' standpoint. Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,822 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 6:09:36 PM  Monroe Slavin wrote: If you're a current student, in the wake of OSU's success and the way it suffocates the state, are you excited about OHIO FOOTBALL? I'm guessing that they think of a history of losing...if they think of OHIO FOOTBALL at all. Set aside my thoughts that it's stale and a change is needed. Set aside your thoughts that the program's on a relative upswing. Look at this from the student point of view. I'm guessing not much interest in or knowledge of football at OHIO. Don't dispute the suffocation of OSU football - has always been the case. And as Mr. Sponge points out, Court Street is our Horseshoe (not sure that is sooo bad). I do question "they think of a history of losing..." Mr. Sponge graduated in 2015 and saw the team go 30-20 - with 3 bowl games and 2 bowl wins. I've previously outlined that most alums (casual as most are) see the Solich years as successful. While not reaching the level of success you stampede for, I would guess most students do not view the program as a history of losing....certainly not within their limited history. Few question that we are currently mediocre, but don't paint us as Miami. Last Edited: 9/8/2016 6:12:36 PM by cc-cat Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 8:41:34 PM  Maybe...but a lot of those wins were against weak teams. The students may not know that, may not even care so far as to know who we're playing. But wins against weak teams and 2-4 horrible losses per year in key MAC games is likely not a recipe to keep OHIO FOOTBALL at the top of student minds. If there are any students or recent grads here, I'd like to hear what they have to say about the typical student. Of course, just the fact that a student or recent grad is here makes them personally more attuned to OHIO FOOTBALL. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,922 Status: Offline     RE: General Chaos    Posted: 9/8/2016 9:56:30 PM  spongeBOB CATpants wrote: Long time reader and first time poster. 2015 grad and rarely missed a football or basketball game since 2010. Monroe is spot on. Ohio st ruins any hope of establishing a great culture for athletics for students. High school seniors with any interest in college sports stay in c-bus, simple as that. Nothing infuriated me more than seeing kids walking around in red jerseys on Saturdays. 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