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Topic: RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Topic: RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/9/2016 6:21:26 PM

Spring Game rushing.

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/04091...

"Redshirt junior Dorian Brown (Pittsburgh, Pa.) led the Bobcats running backs picking up 30 yards on five carries. Redshirt sophomore running back Malek Irons (Chilliwack, B.C.) was second among the running backs picking up 26 yards on six carries."

Brown. 30 on 5 = 6 Yds Per
Irons. 26 on 6 = 4.3 Yds Per

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Jason Arkley ‏@JasonAmessenger 18m18 minutes ago

There were some good things offensively. RB Dorian Brown has really helped himself this spring, for instance. Best of the group today, again
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Last Edited: 4/10/2016 7:18:05 AM by Bcat2

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/9/2016 8:57:09 PM

Bcat2 wrote:

Means Brown should be the starter going into summer camp. If I follow the logic of some. ;-)

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/9/2016 11:55:07 PM

Brown is and excellent back as well. So far Maleek has been going against the ones and Brown against the two's, but I would not be mad if Brown was the starter. Let the best players play.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/10/2016 4:15:00 AM

Did OUllette have any carries? Did any of our returning receivers catch a ball.

I just don't think you can take very much at all from spring practice.

Although the comment about John Carroll level qb'ing is funny.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/10/2016 7:21:07 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

Bcat2 wrote:

Means Brown should be the starter going into summer camp. If I follow the logic of some. ;-)

Per Arkley.

"Top backs A.J. Ouellette and Papi White did not participate."

http://www.athensmessenger.com/sports/ohiouniversity/offe...

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/10/2016 7:26:31 AM

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Brown is and excellent back as well. So far Maleek has been going against the ones and Brown against the two's, but I would not be mad if Brown was the starter. Let the best players play.

Were you there? So help us all out. Who did start ones vs ones? Remembering the true established ones were held out mostly.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/10/2016 8:17:05 AM

Were you there? The starters for life may not necessarily be the top backs.Play the best players, and stop giving out positions for life is all that I ask. If AJ is the best play him, but don't shelve Maleek or Brown because you feel you owe AJ. That is not a good practice.I know darn well had they both got more carries, they probably would have taken the position. Brown has the best vision with good explosion and power. Irons has the most power and prob just as explosive as Brown. He is an open field nightmare. AJ always breaks the first tackle and falls forward, but he is the least explosive. Papi is the most explosive back that we have. All are very good backs but the 7 yard plays Oulette makes turns into 20+ plus for Irons and Brown.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/10/2016 9:18:25 AM

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All I want is verification of your statement that Irons was vs ones and Brown vs twos. I don't know that, do you, really?

Last Edited: 4/10/2016 9:19:36 AM by Bcat2

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/11/2016 8:10:43 PM

Sorry, see below.

Last Edited: 4/11/2016 8:12:09 PM by CovingtonBuccs

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/11/2016 8:11:47 PM

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WHAT?

- Play the best players and stop giving out positions for life?

- If AJ is the best, play him, but don�t shelve Maleek or Brown because you feel you owe AJ?

- YOU KNOW had they (Irons and Brown) received more carries, they �probably� would have taken the position?

Reality check. The red carpet wasn�t rolled out for AJ Ouellette when he arrived on campus two years ago. Remember, he was a walk-on overlooked by everyone in the country and earned a scholarship in a matter of weeks. He was fifth on the depth chart in his first collegiate game (against Kent State) and carried the load on the game-winning drive after the other backs put the ball on the ground several times. Since, he has been OU�s leading ground gainer throughout his freshman and sophomore seasons, while not fumbling once in his career - and rarely having a rush for negative yards (look at the stats). It�s obvious AJ has earned every opportunity awarded to him.

Now, you indicate the OU coaching staff is �playing favorites� instead of the best players because they feel �they owe� AJ?

WOW! You sir, are a piece of work.

Last Edited: 4/11/2016 8:14:37 PM by CovingtonBuccs

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/11/2016 8:19:32 PM

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...Now, you indicate the OU coaching staff is �playing favorites� instead of the best players because they feel �they owe� AJ?

WOW! You sir, are a piece of work.

Relax. It's just something allen repeats now and then, even though there is not a shred of evidence for it. Obviously AJ earned every carry he has gotten, and has done a great job with his opportunities. Brown and Irons are both very good backs, too, and have been working hard, so I expect all three to play well this fall, and White as well.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/11/2016 9:57:59 PM

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Aj has done great, we have better backs and since we have better backs, they should play. AJ should not be starter for life unless he can beat IRons and Brown and benching them during games where AJ is ineffective is not fooling anyone. Play the best players.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/11/2016 10:14:15 PM

Obviously this guy is with AJ but having so many backs is good AND bad. It's Tim Albins job to get the most out of the running game however and AJ has done well enough to get first shot. With that said we expect better rushing production as fans than what we have seen the last few seasons. Its not broken but its also no where near what it should be can AJ do it? And its also not ALL on the backs the OL has been refurbished and it takes some time however these guys should jelly pretty nicely.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/12/2016 9:04:58 AM

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AJ has obviously beaten Irons and Brown already. That is why the coaches start him. Obvious to anyone who ever played the game at least.

Big mouth couch coaches don't get to choose who plays or starts. The coaches who work with these men every day in practice do. The fact that a guy like you can't influence who gets playing time must really bother you. Too bad, get over it.

Last years rushing issues were with the o-line and with the QB reads. No matter what running back was in the game. The fact that AJ had better than 4 yards per carry is a great testament to him and his abilities. I would love for Mr. Ouellette to join a team like The OSU and see what he could produce. Keep pushing Alan and maybe it will be the AJ Ouellette transfer watch.

And for what it's worth....in my and a lot of other fans opinions OU does not have any better backs than AJ.

Last Edited: 4/12/2016 9:07:06 AM by WoodyHaha

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/12/2016 10:03:58 AM

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allen wrote:

CovingtonBuccs wrote:

allen wrote:

definitely no Woody Hayes, some fans believe that you should not be starter for life after two ok seasons. Some fans want to see us win, not appease mediocre fans. Like I said line them up in front of of 100 coaches, and I bet the majority would say something different. AJ is a great back and has been reliable, we now have better backs. Let them play

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/12/2016 10:04:29 AM

WoodyHaha wrote:

allen wrote:

CovingtonBuccs wrote:

allen wrote:

"Big mouth couch coaches" I like that, Big mouth couch coaches (BMCCs) even better than "Arm Chair" or "Monday Morning QBs."

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/12/2016 10:37:59 AM

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allen wrote:

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allen wrote:

"Big mouth couch coaches" I like that, Big mouth couch coaches (BMCCs) even better than "Arm Chair" or "Monday Morning QBs."

When you start from the premise that the coaches are always right, are infallible, you draw certain conclusions.

When you have an open mind, you may draw other conclusions.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/12/2016 11:08:35 AM

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Through posts on this site and PMs I have received, it appears many of us (myself, LC, Allen, Monroe, Blitz, OCF, etc.) are hearing the same thing from assistants, other players, administrators, observers, etc. Irons has great natural ability. One of the main reasons he ended up here is he is from Canada: The fact he played against inferior competition and had a limited playbook and responsibilities outside of running left, right, up the middle made other schools shy away�and has held him back here. Additionally, there were off the field issues that infiltrated the situation.

His lack of playing time does not appear to be an issue with other players, as no one has heard a complaint from within...only from those on this board...who are not involved with the program...except as passionate fans.

It also sounds like we are hearing the same thing with respect to where Iron stands now. That the 2.0 version is amped, pushing himself, has shed the off the field issues, and is ready to go...and will see the field often, and ahead of most (if not all) next year.

No one is questioning AJ's ability - and only a few are questioning the appropriateness of playing time...and that count is becoming fewer and fewer as consistent information unfolds.

AJ has certainly done nothing to deserve a "demotion" but with Brown and Irons both continuing to come into their own the mix and pecking order sounds like it might be on the change.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/12/2016 11:29:43 AM

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I agree with most of what you said here, Woody, but do keep in mind that this is just a fan site, and that many of the people who post here are people who have never played the game, and that there are limits to what they understand about the game. Often the less they know, the more loudly and often they say it. That's the nature of fan sites.

Over the next two years we'll see the offensive linemen recruited a couple years ago become very good players. The line made tremendous progress from the beginning of last year to the end, thanks in part to some changes that the coaches implemented in the BG game. The line will have three new starters this year, and thus the beginning of the year may be a little rough, but by mid-season I think we'll see the line improve substantially, and then the line will be set for the next several years as they have great depth, something Ohio never had under Lightner. Over the next couple years all these backs are going to have a field day. It will be a pleasure to watch all of them.

Last Edited: 4/12/2016 11:31:49 AM by L.C.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/12/2016 11:52:06 AM

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L.C. The thing I am looking for is senior leadership. Last season I felt 75, 54, 51, 41, 34, 7, 81, 67, 95, 22, 37 & 13 all helped hold the team together through a tough patch and carried them to a strong finish. There are representative seniors for 2016, weather they are the leaders the team will need is yet to be seen.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/12/2016 1:28:09 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Bcat2 wrote:

WoodyHaha wrote:

allen wrote:

CovingtonBuccs wrote:

allen wrote:

"Big mouth couch coaches" I like that, Big mouth couch coaches (BMCCs) even better than "Arm Chair" or "Monday Morning QBs."

When you start from the premise that the coaches are always right, are infallible, you draw certain conclusions.

When you have an open mind, you may draw other conclusions.

No one believes the coaches are infallible. But they certainly know more than some couch potato watching the games from their televisions. Yes, I mean you. Don't put words into peoples mouths. I have an open mind....I simply don't believe or buy your BS.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/12/2016 6:01:34 PM

If it were Maleek or Brown starting and AJ with the talent, would that change things for? I know the coaches are loyal, just based off the Patterson and Tettleton situation.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/12/2016 6:32:28 PM

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If it were Maleek or Brown starting and AJ with the talent, would that change things for? I know the coaches are loyal, just based off the Patterson and Tettleton situation.

So from your BMCC perspective AJ is without talent. I invite you to re-watch the NIU game.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/12/2016 6:41:23 PM

Again with a football ignoramous putting words in someone's mouth, Allen. The coaches know much more about who has talent and who does not.

How much collegiate football coaching experience do you have? Does it compare with the experience the coaches at OU have? I think not.

Go back to your couch, your are too football ignorant to even post on a fan's forum.

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RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Posted: 4/12/2016 7:13:17 PM

For what it's worth, I talked to a HS coach who had the pleasure of coaching AJ in a HS all star game. (North/South game I believe) He said he could not believe he had no scholly at that time. He said he was the best kid they had on their team, rating him better than all the kids going to OSU and all the other big schools. He had nothing but praise for AJ. He might be better than what Allen and Monroe comes across with here! To listen to them he may be only worthy of 4th string! I can't and won't put too much stock in what they say here!

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