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Bcat2
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  Message Not Read  ACT Testing
   Posted: 4/18/2015 6:50:37 AM 
Michael George ‏@OhioCoachGeorge 36m36 minutes ago

Good luck to everyone taking the @ACT 📝 this morning. @NCAA_EC #2Point3


I am guessing some recruits still need to improve scores. I wish their high school coaches were as concerned about their class work as their weight room attendance. It is simple. Ask teachers for the names of those whose grades are dipping below Cs or are behind in their homework. These student/athletes then will bring their books to practice and report to the study area until their grades are up. Good managers are usually adequate tutors. If the player gives a damn the grades come up and they can rejoin practice. High school is not that tough. If we get out front sports can be a carrot to get kids to study. This works.


"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK

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  Message Not Read  RE: ACT Testing
   Posted: 4/18/2015 1:52:50 PM 
Bcat2 wrote:
Michael George ‏@OhioCoachGeorge 36m36 minutes ago

Good luck to everyone taking the @ACT 📝 this morning. @NCAA_EC #2Point3


I am guessing some recruits still need to improve scores. I wish their high school coaches were as concerned about their class work as their weight room attendance. It is simple. Ask teachers for the names of those whose grades are dipping below Cs or are behind in their homework. These student/athletes then will bring their books to practice and report to the study area until their grades are up. Good managers are usually adequate tutors. If the player gives a damn the grades come up and they can rejoin practice. High school is not that tough. If we get out front sports can be a carrot to get kids to study. This works.


High School coaches have no weight on these test. And how do you know these coaches have not checked on their student-athletes?
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  Message Not Read  RE: ACT Testing
   Posted: 4/19/2015 9:24:48 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
Michael George ‏@OhioCoachGeorge 36m36 minutes ago

Good luck to everyone taking the @ACT 📝 this the standardsmorning. @NCAA_EC #2Point3


I am guessing some recruits still need to improve scores. I wish their high school coaches were as concerned about their class work as their weight room attendance. It is simple. Ask teachers for the names of those whose grades are dipping below Cs or are behind in their homework. These student/athletes then will bring their books to practice and report to the study area until their grades are up. Good managers are usually adequate tutors. If the player gives a damn the grades come up and they can rejoin practice. High school is not that tough. If we get out front sports can be a carrot to get kids to study. This works.


High School coaches have no weight on these test. And how do you know these coaches have not checked on their student-athletes?


Most state high school athletic associations have very low bars for participation in athletics. Usually requiring a low amount of credits which would permit flunking up to two classes in the previous semester. When the bar is set so low it is a disservice to everyone. Some schools raise the bar locally which is commendable, but, given the resources committed to athletics they should be used as a carrot to motivate students.


"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK

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  Message Not Read  RE: ACT Testing
   Posted: 4/19/2015 12:46:56 PM 
Bcat2 wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
Michael George ‏@OhioCoachGeorge 36m36 minutes ago

Good luck to everyone taking the @ACT 📝 this the standardsmorning. @NCAA_EC #2Point3


I am guessing some recruits still need to improve scores. I wish their high school coaches were as concerned about their class work as their weight room attendance. It is simple. Ask teachers for the names of those whose grades are dipping below Cs or are behind in their homework. These student/athletes then will bring their books to practice and report to the study area until their grades are up. Good managers are usually adequate tutors. If the player gives a damn the grades come up and they can rejoin practice. High school is not that tough. If we get out front sports can be a carrot to get kids to study. This works.


High School coaches have no weight on these test. And how do you know these coaches have not checked on their student-athletes?


Most state high school athletic associations have very low bars for participation in athletics. Usually requiring a low amount of credits which would permit flunking up to two classes in the previous semester. When the bar is set so low it is a disservice to everyone. Some schools raise the bar locally which is commendable, but, given the resources committed to athletics they should be used as a carrot to motivate students.


I challenge you to support that information. And define low?

http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/high-school-athletes-g...
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UpSan Bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: ACT Testing
   Posted: 4/19/2015 4:41:28 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
[QUOTE=Bcat2]Michael George ‏@OhioCoachGeorge 36m36 minutes ago

Good luck to everyone taking the @ACT 📝 this the standardsmorning. @NCAA_EC #2Point3


I am guessing some recruits still need to improve scores. I wish their high school coaches were as concerned about their class work as their weight room attendance. It is simple. Ask teachers for the names of those whose grades are dipping below Cs or are behind in their homework. These student/athletes then will bring their books to practice and report to the study area until their grades are up. Good managers are usually adequate tutors. If the player gives a damn the grades come up and they can rejoin practice. High school is not that tough. If we get out front sports can be a carrot to get kids to study. This works.


High School coaches have no weight on these test. And how do you know these coaches have not checked on their student-athletes?


Most state high school athletic associations have very low bars for participation in athletics. Usually requiring a low amount of credits which would permit flunking up to two classes in the previous semester. When the bar is set so low it is a disservice to everyone. Some schools raise the bar locally which is commendable, but, given the resources committed to athletics they should be used as a carrot to motivate students.


I challenge you to support that information. And define low?

http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/high-school-athletes-g...]

Eligibility for the OHSAA is to have passed 5 1-credit classes the semester prior. So a student could have 5 D's and 2 F's and be eligible. But as Bcat2 also said, many (probably most) schools have additional requirements of a certain GPA.

But you are also right that, on average, high school athletes are better students that non-athletes.

But going back to Bcat2's original comment, I really don't think it's fair. Many coaches care a great deal about their student's grades. I know of a coach who made one of his players take a week off after football before he started basketball so he could catch up on assignments and then throughout the course of the season made him sit out practices and do homework instead. Unfortunately, a coach can only do so much. The kid still lost eligibility at the end of the semester (the last few weeks of the basketball season).
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  Message Not Read  RE: ACT Testing
   Posted: 4/19/2015 5:06:58 PM 
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
[QUOTE=Bcat2]Michael George ‏@OhioCoachGeorge 36m36 minutes ago

Good luck to everyone taking the @ACT 📝 this the standardsmorning. @NCAA_EC #2Point3


I am guessing some recruits still need to improve scores. I wish their high school coaches were as concerned about their class work as their weight room attendance. It is simple. Ask teachers for the names of those whose grades are dipping below Cs or are behind in their homework. These student/athletes then will bring their books to practice and report to the study area until their grades are up. Good managers are usually adequate tutors. If the player gives a damn the grades come up and they can rejoin practice. High school is not that tough. If we get out front sports can be a carrot to get kids to study. This works.


High School coaches have no weight on these test. And how do you know these coaches have not checked on their student-athletes?


Most state high school athletic associations have very low bars for participation in athletics. Usually requiring a low amount of credits which would permit flunking up to two classes in the previous semester. When the bar is set so low it is a disservice to everyone. Some schools raise the bar locally which is commendable, but, given the resources committed to athletics they should be used as a carrot to motivate students.


I challenge you to support that information. And define low?

http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/high-school-athletes-g...]

Eligibility for the OHSAA is to have passed 5 1-credit classes the semester prior. So a student could have 5 D's and 2 F's and be eligible. But as Bcat2 also said, many (probably most) schools have additional requirements of a certain GPA.

But you are also right that, on average, high school athletes are better students that non-athletes.

But going back to Bcat2's original comment, I really don't think it's fair. Many coaches care a great deal about their student's grades. I know of a coach who made one of his players take a week off after football before he started basketball so he could catch up on assignments and then throughout the course of the season made him sit out practices and do homework instead. Unfortunately, a coach can only do so much. The kid still lost eligibility at the end of the semester (the last few weeks of the basketball season).


Each individual school is also to set their GPA and course requirements, nice job picking only a portion of the State requirements. Each individual school can set their own GPA and how ineligibily works, and are encouraged to set their own. Several that I have worked with have weekly and bi-weekly list.

Again, I'll reiterat what does the "coach" have to do with an ACT test?
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Bcat2
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  Message Not Read  RE: ACT Testing
   Posted: 4/19/2015 6:20:31 PM 
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
[QUOTE=Bcat2]Michael George ‏@OhioCoachGeorge 36m36 minutes ago

Good luck to everyone taking the @ACT 📝 this the standardsmorning. @NCAA_EC #2Point3


I am guessing some recruits still need to improve scores. I wish their high school coaches were as concerned about their class work as their weight room attendance. It is simple. Ask teachers for the names of those whose grades are dipping below Cs or are behind in their homework. These student/athletes then will bring their books to practice and report to the study area until their grades are up. Good managers are usually adequate tutors. If the player gives a damn the grades come up and they can rejoin practice. High school is not that tough. If we get out front sports can be a carrot to get kids to study. This works.


High School coaches have no weight on these test. And how do you know these coaches have not checked on their student-athletes?


Most state high school athletic associations have very low bars for participation in athletics. Usually requiring a low amount of credits which would permit flunking up to two classes in the previous semester. When the bar is set so low it is a disservice to everyone. Some schools raise the bar locally which is commendable, but, given the resources committed to athletics they should be used as a carrot to motivate students.


I challenge you to support that information. And define low?

http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/high-school-athletes-g...]

Eligibility for the OHSAA is to have passed 5 1-credit classes the semester prior. So a student could have 5 D's and 2 F's and be eligible. But as Bcat2 also said, many (probably most) schools have additional requirements of a certain GPA.

But you are also right that, on average, high school athletes are better students that non-athletes.

But going back to Bcat2's original comment, I really don't think it's fair. Many coaches care a great deal about their student's grades. I know of a coach who made one of his players take a week off after football before he started basketball so he could catch up on assignments and then throughout the course of the season made him sit out practices and do homework instead. Unfortunately, a coach can only do so much. The kid still lost eligibility at the end of the semester (the last few weeks of the basketball season).


Missouri's MSHSAA requirement is to have passed only 3.0 units of credit. Most schools do have higher local standards and the best coaches do care about their athletes. However, it bothers me when athletic programs like Kentucky's BB are set up with little intent of producing graduates.


"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK

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UpSan Bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: ACT Testing
   Posted: 4/19/2015 6:50:15 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
[QUOTE=Bcat2]Michael George ‏@OhioCoachGeorge 36m36 minutes ago

Good luck to everyone taking the @ACT 📝 this the standardsmorning. @NCAA_EC #2Point3


I am guessing some recruits still need to improve scores. I wish their high school coaches were as concerned about their class work as their weight room attendance. It is simple. Ask teachers for the names of those whose grades are dipping below Cs or are behind in their homework. These student/athletes then will bring their books to practice and report to the study area until their grades are up. Good managers are usually adequate tutors. If the player gives a damn the grades come up and they can rejoin practice. High school is not that tough. If we get out front sports can be a carrot to get kids to study. This works.


High School coaches have no weight on these test. And how do you know these coaches have not checked on their student-athletes?


Most state high school athletic associations have very low bars for participation in athletics. Usually requiring a low amount of credits which would permit flunking up to two classes in the previous semester. When the bar is set so low it is a disservice to everyone. Some schools raise the bar locally which is commendable, but, given the resources committed to athletics they should be used as a carrot to motivate students.


I challenge you to support that information. And define low?

http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/high-school-athletes-g...]

Eligibility for the OHSAA is to have passed 5 1-credit classes the semester prior. So a student could have 5 D's and 2 F's and be eligible. But as Bcat2 also said, many (probably most) schools have additional requirements of a certain GPA.

But you are also right that, on average, high school athletes are better students that non-athletes.

But going back to Bcat2's original comment, I really don't think it's fair. Many coaches care a great deal about their student's grades. I know of a coach who made one of his players take a week off after football before he started basketball so he could catch up on assignments and then throughout the course of the season made him sit out practices and do homework instead. Unfortunately, a coach can only do so much. The kid still lost eligibility at the end of the semester (the last few weeks of the basketball season).


Each individual school is also to set their GPA and course requirements, nice job picking only a portion of the State requirements. Each individual school can set their own GPA and how ineligibily works, and are encouraged to set their own. Several that I have worked with have weekly and bi-weekly list.

Again, I'll reiterat what does the "coach" have to do with an ACT test?


That's pretty much exactly what I just said.
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