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Topic: RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Topic: RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/5/2015 4:59:43 PM

cc-cat wrote:

perimeterpost wrote:

I understand why and how children in the state get indoctrinated into believing the idea, as it has been told to me dozens of times, that "everyone in the state of Ohio should root for the Buckeyes because they represent the entire state"

Really? I'm being serious here. Do people in the state really say and believe that? I went to Ohio, but am not from the state. What possible logic is twisted to come up with such a position. That is just odd. Can an OSU faithful please explain such a statement to me.

Yes. I have had this conversation many times with osu fans. It usually goes something like this:

osu fan: osu is the official university of the State of Ohio.
me: No it isn't. There are lots of other public universities in the state.
osu fan: Yes it is. It's right there in the name. Ohio STATE University.
me: That's just the name.
osu fan: Yeah, but it means we're the official university of the State of Ohio.
me: So does that mean Ohio University is the official university of Ohio?
osu fan: Yeah, I guess so.
me: And Ohio is a state?
osu fan: Yeah.
me: So....osu is the official university of the STATE of Ohio, but Ohio University is the official university of OHIO, a state?
osu fan: [blank stare]

perimeterpost wrote:

Flipping the script- would Buckeye fans root for Ohio if the Bobcats were playing for a national championship? No, because they wouldn't be Buckeye fans anymore, they'd be Bobcat fans. That's what bandwagon fans do.

I disagree. "Rooting" for a team in any particular game doesn't necessarily make you a fan. I was rooting for Oregon to beat Florida State. That doesn't make me an Oregon fan...it just means that I arbitrarily shifted my emotions to support one side over the other for a limited time. "Fandom" requires more than temporary emotional investment.

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/5/2015 5:23:25 PM

Odd. I'm originally from Pennsylvania. Born in Philly and raise in the heart of Penn State country and I can tell you, without hesitation, that such a conversation (everyone in the state should pull for PSU) has never taken place there. I now live in North Carolina. Good luck with the "official university of the State" argument here.

OSU attitude = Twilight Zone

Last Edited: 1/5/2015 5:45:33 PM by cc-cat

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/5/2015 5:40:57 PM

I had an interesting conversation at work today.

Hanging from my desk is a poster of our home men's basketball schedule.

A guy who I don't know but works on my floor walked by and noticed the schedule. He stopped and stated "this is great." He then stated he wasn't from Ohio and thought it was very strange how there is no interest in Ohio sports. He then referenced "Michigan and Michigan State" and wondered how "Ohio and Ohio State" weren't similar to that. He stated "even alumni" don't seem to care about other state colleges in Ohio like they would other places. I agreed with him completely. I was pretty thrilled he said something. This is the first conversation on these lines. Prior to this, I have gotten a lot of talk about the Akron rivalry (where I work) and a lot of references to DJ Cooper and our Sweet 16 run.

This led to a sidebar among the people who work immediately around me. One lady (not from Ohio) mentioned the amazing amount of pride all OU alums have in the school and agreed it was strange sports don't seem to transfer as much.

Like LuckySparrow mentioned, I do believe that this issue is improving. A decent amount of people I graduated from OHIO with have posted on social media excited about the Buckeyes. At the same time, I continue to be blown away by how many conversations I see about Ohio basketball among my friends on social media. I expect it from certain people (such as people I know post on BA) but it always makes me happy when I see people who are not huge sports fans discussing our basketball team.

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/5/2015 7:21:46 PM

DFC, I hereby apologize. It seems that I had to apologize to you one other time on missing your sarcasm. This is really strange, because I usually catch sarcasm, and I use it a lot myself. In my defense, I was very tired when I said you were acting like an idiot and I was, perhaps, not on the top of my game. ;-)

When I think someone might miss my sarcasm, I usually -- though not always -- use emoticons like ;-) [smile with a wink] or :-) [a straight smile]. I know the BA built-in emoticons were better, but these substitute, old-style, emoticons I think are understood by most on this board, except maybe the very youngest.

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/5/2015 8:33:01 PM

cc-cat wrote:

perimeterpost wrote:

it comes from a culture where football is a very big deal (Friday Night Lights shine just as bright in Ohio as they do in Texas) but the two pro sports teams in the state have been sources of pain and disappointment for decades. The Buckeyes, in contrast, are without question one of the most winningest sport teams, period. You take a culture that is obsessive about football and combine it with the hardships of living in the rust belt and you have the perfect recipe for an obsessive fan base looking to identify with a winner. Local papers and TV news in northern Ohio cover the Browns, in southern Ohio they cover the Bengals, but all of them cover the Buckeyes. Contrast decades of that kind of coverage with the fact that Ohio University's football team played its first ever nationally televised game in 2005.

What better evidence than the news this week about the town of Oregon, Ohio temporarily changed its name to "Oregon, Ohio Buckeyes on the Bay, City of Duck Hunters." Oregon, OH is 11 miles from the University of Toledo, 23 miles from Bowling Green, and 132 miles from Columbus.

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/5/2015 9:08:38 PM

I guess the difference between Ohio and PA is the success of the Steelers - lol.

I know people in Ohio think their passion for HS football is unique and above others. I can assure everyone that here in the Carolinas, just as in Ohio, towns stop on Friday night. Teenage boys are worshiped by men 3 times their age, and being just a part of it by being in the band or color guard is a badge of honor.

Yet, only in Ohio, is a single school held out as the holy alter of the state.

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/5/2015 10:08:07 PM

Y-CityCatFan wrote:

"Rooting for" would be a strong word. Part of me will be pulling for them because I pull for every Ohio team, but mostly, I think I am at the point where I just don't care enough to "root for" anyone in this game. I will watch it because I like watching football, but I will not really be rooting for anyone.

The previous posts all sum up why I completely turned my back away from being a Buckeye fan years ago. I can't stand the idea that just because you were born here means that you MUST be a die hard Buckeye fan. The brainwashing that takes place is ridiculous. It mostly comes down to the media drilling into people who they should be paying attention to and who they should ignore. A kid growing up in Ohio, with this culture, wouldn't dare to openly root for a team like Ohio exclusively because it isn't considered a "cool" thing to do.
I also hate the fact that Buckeye fans can wear OSU gear at any time of the year, in season or not, but when I wear Bobcat gear, I'm looked at as that weird, crazy, OU fanatic.

As others have done... Here is my hierarchy of fandom:
1) OHIO

2) MAC

3) Other Ohio teams playing OSU

4) Other Ohio teams playing anyone else (including OSU on rare occasions when
them winning or losing doesn't have any affect on Ohio or MAC or G5)

5) Any G5 team playing a P5 team (Esp. OSU)

6) Any G5 games who's outcomes will not negatively affect the MAC

7) Any Underdog

I like your "fandom" with this addition - add in after 2) MAC, 3) Schools with ex OHIO players and/or coaches on the current coaching staff (well, usually, BC would be an exception)

RS Bobcat

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/5/2015 10:26:47 PM

perimeterpost wrote:

cc-cat wrote:

perimeterpost wrote:

Try going to a Browns home. At every home game at some point "Hang on Sloopy" is played on the loudspeakers, the crowd does that stupid O-H-I-O formation and chant. I not only don't do the O-H-I-O formations, I yell "U" at the end, only to get blank stares from the fans around me.

Like a previous poster said though, it is getting better. At the Muni lots I've seen a tailgating RV displaying an OHIO flag. Good job whoever that is!

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/5/2015 11:50:26 PM

Mark, I think it would be more effective, to shout "Bobcats" after the O-H-I-O thing. It think it would confuse them less, and make the point better. Just one man's opinion.

On a recent trip in the South I was surprised at the number of people who saw my OHIO ballcap (all it has on it is the arched OHIO), who did NOT confuse me with an OSu fan. One man, in Alabama, saw the hat, and asked how our team was doing, and then added, what a good team Ohio STATE (emphasis his) had. Another, kind of proud of himself, rattled off about 10 of the 13 MAC teams, and then asked about Frank Solich. I've notice this before in places like North Carolina and Georgia. I'm beginning to think OHIO has more problems with recognition in certain parts of the Buckeye State (notable up near the Mistake on the Lake) and in some bordering states than we do elsewhere. This is kind of puzzling, but the ink that OSU gets in the Ohio press, as discussed elsewhere in this thread, probably has something to do with it. Sports journalism in Ohio is not exactly balanced, and this goes back a long, long time. I can remember back in the early '60s when a certain team in Southwestern Ohio had a pretty darn good basketball team, but the state media just slobbered over Jerry Lucas and his teammates and even after the Bearcats defeated the Buckeyes, they got less coverage than the school in Cowtown. Then this past year, OSU was defeated in the NCAA by Dayton; yet, this year how much statewide coverage has Dayton received compared to the Evil Empire? This is not good journalism.

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/6/2015 12:21:01 PM

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When traveling, including abroad, I consistently wear OHIO apparel - cap, jackets, t-shirts, sweatshirt, sweater. Frequently, in some unlikely places such as the recent Christmas market in Colmar, France, I am on the receiving end of a "Go Bobcats!"

Re The South. Once a few years ago when going through passport control in Atlanta, the agent immediately began gushing about Ohio's basketball program.

On another occasion in the park adjacent the Eiffel Tower, a voice from behind said, "An Ohio man." He turned out to be a professor who once had taught at Ohio.

Back in 1996, I was walking the streets in Yantai, a city of 4 or so million souls at the tip of the peninsula that juts out into the Yellow Sea. I was wearing a cap with an interlocking O and U. At the time there were only 4 westerners living in Yantai so I expected stares. But I noticed that many of the stares weren't directed at my face but the interlocking O and U. I couldn't help wondering if some gazers were thinking that the interlocking letters were a little-known Chinese symbol.

Of course, hearty greetings also occur locally. Yesterday in a bank, the teller saw me wearing an Ohio cap and jacket, and her first words were, "Nice colors." She then told me that her son and husband are Ohio grads.

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/6/2015 1:10:24 PM

I am rooting against State. I refuse to feed the monster.

I didn't grow up in Ohio so I have no youthful tie to State.

And, I (probably naively) consider them a rival.

Also, as others point out, they crap on our heads every time they use Ohio.

We are Ohio, they are State.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/6/2015 8:37:17 PM

Mike Johnson wrote:

I'd love to see your long "me" paragraph appear - slightly edited - as an op-ed in The Dispatch.

Feel free to make the edits, and we'll co-sign. I've sent op ed pieces to them in the past, but they have replied they don't frequently publish submissions from out of state residents.

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And for the record, I hate tOSU, and Ricordati and Torgerson are DB's.

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/6/2015 9:31:19 PM

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I'm beginning to think OHIO has more problems with recognition in certain parts of the Buckeye State (notable up near the Mistake on the Lake) and in some bordering states than we do elsewhere. This is kind of puzzling, but the ink that OSU gets in the Ohio press, as discussed elsewhere in this thread, probably has something to do with it. Sports journalism in Ohio is not exactly balanced, and this goes back a long, long time. I can remember back in the early '60s when a certain team in Southwestern Ohio had a pretty darn good basketball team, but the state media just slobbered over Jerry Lucas and his teammates and even after the Bearcats defeated the Buckeyes, they got less coverage than the school in Cowtown. Then this past year, OSU was defeated in the NCAA by Dayton; yet, this year how much statewide coverage has Dayton received compared to the Evil Empire? This is not good journalism.

Great point, and as related to my earlier long post and the comments of the person I cited, I feel that OHIO has a significant "opportunity" to increase its marketing presence in state, and is clearly presently under-performing, at least to my taste. The press will do OHIO no favors relative to tOSU's positioning.

I resigned from the Alumni Association Board of Directors a couple of years ago, and in my resignation letter I stated that I felt the largest issue the Alumni Association faced was capturing and retaining the share of mind with our in state alumni relative to our alumni's view of tOSU, and felt that tOSU and its prominence (particularly in the press) was a serious threat to our success in keeping our alumni engaged in OHIO. Many of my peers on the Board contacted me after reading my letter and stated politely that they had no idea what I was talking about, not understanding why I could feel so. Many of my 20 peers on the Board were open about their dual allegiance to OHIO and tOSU, and most were not diploma holders of the Scourge on the Scioto. Many of them are living examples of my point.

My message to them: Many of OUr alumni hold the view that while they love OHIO, they also view tOSU as being in the "big leagues", primarily related to athletics but also in academics. I believe that much of this can be attributed to the fact that tOSU is regularly in the press in all markets across the state, and it puts the other state institutions at a competitive disadvantage in getting out their message and competing for a share of voice.

The passage of the Eagleson Bill in 1906 by the Ohio Legislature solidified tOSU's advantage in becoming the state's flagship, assuring it of a funding advantage from the state FOREVER and establishing that it would be the only school allowed to offer doctoral education or conduct basic research for an extended timeline. Those things cemented tOSU as being the largest institution in the state. This of course extended to its acceptance into the largely closed club of AAU shortly thereafter. Unfortunately, many of our alumni equate quantity with quality, and fail to acknowledge that our alma mater is nationally prominent in many fields, and is worthy of praise beyond tOSU in many disciplines.

I hear folks stating here that they justify their support of tOSU because they play "big boy sports", and we are in the "minor leagues", and there is nothing you can say to be more condescending to our student athletes that are investing daily just as much as their ICA peers in Cowtown. I am of the opinion that many of our pedestrian alumni also allow this view to seep into their opinions regarding our academic status as well, which is incredibly condescending to our administration, faculty and staff, not to mention students AND alumni, and it frankly pisses me off.

I've unfortunately accepted that our largest problem in competing with tOSU has less to do with tOSU itself, and more to do with the fact that many of our alumni simply do not take OHIO seriously, and don't wear OHIO's achievements as a badge of honor both in academics and athletics, but primarily in academics. They love the campus, they love the town, they love their experience during their time on campus, but they don't own and promote the history and OUr academic achievements past and present. It is simply too easy for them to fall in line with the endless litany of tOSU press and accept the prevailing (and often flawed) sentiment of the general populace.

What OHIO has achieved it has done without the legislated advantage that State has had for over a hundred years, and I find that to be incredibly admirable, more so than simply having a built in advantage against its competitors. If we as alumni don't take OHIO as a serious enterprise and act as its largest cheerleaders, then why should we expect anyone else to take OHIO as serious as they do tOSU?

Last Edited: 1/6/2015 9:35:03 PM by D.A.

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/6/2015 9:52:37 PM

Great points, DA. Let me point out that OHIO had a good deal to do with jettisoning the effects of the Eagleson Bill. A good friend of my father's was the lead person in getting a Ph.D. program in Chemistry in the 1950s at OHIO. This pulled the figurative finger out of the dike and lead to more doctoral programs and more equal funding based on objective funding formulas. The professor in question had his undergraduate degree from OHIO and his Ph.D. from the Big Farm. For the record, prior to the Eagleson Bill, OHIO had granted at least one, and perhaps as many as three, Ph.D.s in the 1880-1900 period. One is documented, the others are likely but the documentation is not complete. This might, in part, be because of an unfortunate incident "back in the day." An idiot administrator in the 1960s, who will go nameless, actually burned all the pre-1900 transcripts that were stuffed in a closet in his office in McGuffey Hall. He is reported to have said, "We don't need these records. These folks are all dead."

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/6/2015 11:17:45 PM

Anyone who doesn't wear OHIO's accomplishments as a badge of honor needs to burn their diploma.

The opposing team sucks!

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/7/2015 9:12:53 AM

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I agree with a lot of this, but not the complaint about journalists. "Good journalism," particularly in sports, does not mean giving one's audience something it does not want. Journalism is a business. It disgusts me that the PD has at least one beat writer exclusively following the O$U, but I'm not disgusted at the PD. I'm disgusted at the slobbering Walmart Bucknuts of Northeast Ohio, who drive huge amounts of traffic to cleveland.com and comment incessantly on every bit of minutia coming out of Columbus. Those comments are an excellent barometer of value, because people who leave them tend to come back again and again to see if anyone has responded, which increases the value of advertising. Only the Browns generate more interest here. Journalism in the U.S. must make money to exist. There's a reason Elton Alexander is covering the MAC for the PD, and we all know it's not because of talent. With two MAC schools in its coverage area and tens of thousands of MAC alumni in the region, MAC stories typically get anywhere from zero to 10 comments. We're frankly lucky anyone (even Elton) is covering the MAC with those pathetic numbers.

To get back on topic, I fully endorse what many others have said here, but what D.A. best articulated. The "junior leagues" attitude is toxic and pervasive and dual allegiances are detrimental to Ohio academically and athletically. The only thing I would add is that it's not unique to our school. Most native Ohioans I know kiss the Bucknut ring regardless of where they went to school. I even know an Indiana grad who pulls for the Buckeyes before the Hoosiers.

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/7/2015 11:21:37 AM

RJ, is it good journalism to have almost daily preseason stories on the OSU basketball team run on the state AP wire and virtually none on Dayton, last year's best Buckeye State basketball team?

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/7/2015 11:26:14 AM

I'm sorry, but the reality is that not every public university in a state gets to be the Berkeley. And like it or not, the decision was made a 150 years ago that "the Berkeley" in Ohio would be in Columbus. But I guess that some people like paying extra taxes (or having existing higher ed funding diluted so that tuition rises) so that every college in the state can add meaningless Ph.D programs in some futile effort to challenge Columbus.

Did you know that at one point in the 80s, Ohio's public universities had more doctoral programs in History, Political Science, Physics and Chemistry than did those in California--a state with both three times the population and three times the number of four-year public universities. And with all but a couple of exceptions none of those doctoral programs (outside of Columbus) could crack a ranking of the top 100 much less be relevant on anything approaching a national scale. Does that sound like a well thought out state higher educations system or a rationale use of scarce higher education funding?

Last Edited: 1/7/2015 11:27:20 AM by OUPride

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/7/2015 11:37:44 AM

OUPride wrote:

the state of higher education in the State of Ohio is a JOKE!

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/7/2015 11:45:43 AM

OUPride wrote:

1. OSU is not Berkeley, or anywhere close to it.
2. I can name at least two doctoral programs at OHIO that are nationally ranked. Can you?

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Posted: 1/7/2015 11:47:37 AM

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UCLA would like to have a word with you. ; - ) https://grad.ucla.edu/departments.html

You are actually making my point, as when I am educating people who are unfamiliar with OHIO about OHIO, I regularly use the Berkeley/UCLA comparison to help them understand how OHIO is different from State. (smaller and a more liberal arts bent versus larger and more vocational bent)

And to my understanding, Berkeley was not granted the financial and legislative advantage, with imposed restrictions on the other University of California and Cal State campuses, that tOSU was granted. If you have data that confirms otherwise then I stand corrected, but my uncle (an OHIO alumnus in the '40's) taught at UCLA for a couple decades and gave me a pretty fair grounding on how California funded the growth of their state university systems. It did not mirror what Ohio did when it assigned State flagship status.

And to expand, the UC system has two flagships, not one: Berkeley, which came first, and Los Angeles. Both OHIO and Miami lobbied for flagship status at the time that the Ohio Ag and Mech was ultimately assigned flagship status. Wouldn't it have been cool to have three land grants as flagships, not just one?! But that would have taken vision and selflessness that the Ohio Legislature did not have. (and as Billy noted still does not exhibit)

Last Edited: 1/7/2015 11:58:51 AM by D.A.

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Posted: 1/7/2015 12:00:25 PM

OSU does not have official flagship status at the present time, since the Eagleson Bill is no longer in effect. They do have defacto flagship status due to funding irregularities and legislative favoritism. When the Eagleson Bill was passed, Cincinnati, Akron and Toledo, to name a few, were not part of the state system. These additions were part of the reason that a more objective funding formula was put in place. If you want to read a very interest history full of all kinds of intrigue read all the machinations both in Cincinnati and in Columbus when UC was made a state university in a process that stretched over several years and would make any bureaucrat in Washington, D.C. proud.

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Posted: 1/7/2015 12:06:25 PM

D.A. wrote:

OUPride wrote:

UCLA would like to have a word with you. ; - ) https://grad.ucla.edu/departments.html

You are actually making my point, as when I am educating people who are unfamiliar with OHIO about OHIO, I regularly use the Berkeley/UCLA comparison to help them understand how OHIO is different from State. (smaller and a more liberal arts bent versus larger and more vocational bent)

And to my understanding, Berkeley was not granted the financial and legislative advantage, with imposed restrictions on the other University of California and Cal State campuses, that tOSU was granted. If you have data that confirms otherwise then I stand corrected, but my uncle (an OHIO alumnus in the '40's) taught at UCLA for a couple decades and gave me a pretty fair grounding on how California funded the growth of their state university systems. It did not mirror what Ohio did when it assigned State flagship status.

And to expand, the UC system has two flagships, not one: Berkeley, which came first, and Los Angeles. Both OHIO and Miami lobbied for flagship status at the time that the Ohio Ag and Mech was ultimately assigned flagship status. Wouldn't it have been cool to have three land grants as flagships, not just one?! But that would have taken vision and selflessness and the Ohio Legislature did not have. (and as Billy noted still does not exhibit)

Yes,California has had two flagships emerge. It's also California with almost 40M people and two "global class" cities with metropolitan areas larger than the 3Cs combined that are six hours away. It's an apples and oranges situation to Ohio. Does Ohio need a secondary flagship? Perhaps, but guess who will fill that role, and it's not Ohio. UC is already much better positioned and has the support of a large regional business/political infrastructure to assume that role than Ohio. So does Ohio need "multiple flagships?" Should every school be free to add on doctoral and research programs. Should the state pump resources into Journalism and Avionics and dilute funding for better programs at Ohio, just because somebody up there wants one?

Actually, the UC system has always had something very similar to the Eagleson Bill. Cal State campuses do not offer Doctoral degrees by state law. And the UC system itself is governed by a centralized President and office in Oakland that manages and allocates resources and approves programs. Cal and UCLA might be rivals in many senses, but they are not true unregulated, competitive institutions as the situation in Ohio devolved into. So if you really want to replicate the UC system and be the second flagship in Ohio then you would be putting Ohio University under a centralized President and Board of Trustees that would inevitably be located in Columbus and dominated by OSU.

Last Edited: 1/7/2015 12:15:23 PM by OUPride

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Posted: 1/7/2015 12:09:47 PM

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Didn't Fingerhut and Strickland designate it as such when the University System of Ohio was implemented?

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RE: Are you rooting for Ohio State to win the National Championship?

Posted: 1/7/2015 12:10:17 PM

When I was acquiring my rooting interests as a youngster in the late 60s and early 70s I became attached to instate teams that I was exposed to through television, newspapers or magazines. Obviously Ohio State got more exposure than any other Ohio school through that limited media. I also picked up rooting interests in the Cincinnati Reds as that time was the birth of the Big Red Machine. When the Bengals started a team in the late 60s I gravitated to them also.

I had a brother graduate from OU in 1970 and the first college game I ever attended was in Peden Stadium. So naturally I became attached to the Bobcats too but continued to follow the Buckeyes. I am truly a homer for the instate teams whether that be college or professional.

I spent about 15 years as a wrestling coach in southeastern Ohio and have had wrestlers go on to compete at Ohio University and Ohio State and I equally support each program. There are only four division 1 college wrestling programs in Ohio and it pisses me off every time I see top notch high school wrestlers leave the state. I would love to see OU, OSU, KSU and CSU get all the top talent to stay in state.

In the rare occasions when OU and OSU play each other I want to see a very competitive game and can live with either team winning as long as both perform admirably. But I want each team to win every other game on their schedule and will root for all MAC and BIG teams when they play out of conference games.

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