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Its interesting that their advantages haven't helped them in basketball. It hasn't helped them yet, but with their new arena, plus their coach Mark Montgomery, they are improving in hoops too. Back to Top sargentfan General User Member Since: 3/16/2005 Post Count: 916 Status: Offline     RE: Back up off the ledge, people    Posted: 9/15/2014 10:43:26 AM  This is one of those games where you have to wait before posting. At the time its just heartbreaking and frustrating. On the other hand we pretty much knew we would lose, we were just hoping it would be closer than it was especially with a defense that had done so well the first two games. But give it to Marshall they made good plays, plays that at times we defended well against, they just still made the play. With the schedule we have and if we can make some improvements we should end up with a record no worse than last year. Which is bad at all considering how much we lost from what was supposed to be a stacked team last year. I'm putting all my eggs on next year's team, if that team isn't making the Championship game, then we can talk about coaching staff changes for sure. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,922 Status: Offline     RE: Back up off the ledge, people    Posted: 9/15/2014 6:37:39 PM  Mark Lembright '85 wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Mark Lembright '85 wrote: I find most of this thread amusing. For a significant part of Ohio's gridiron history, Ohio has been just awful in football. Up until Coach Solich came, with the rare exception of a year here or there, Ohio has just plain sucked in football for two generations, literally. Now, because OUr coach can't beat an SEC team on the road nor does he beat a potentially Top 25 team on the road he's "not getting it done"? And all this while the team sits atop the MAC East! When did we as a fan base become so demanding? PG asked, what is our goal, beating mediocre teams? No. Our goal at the very most is a MAC Championship, nothing more. A goal which ironically is still attainable for Ohio. Neither a national championship nor a BCS bowl has never ever been nor will it ever be attainable for Ohio. Ever. Ohio is not that kind of school that will support the effort to get to that level and it will never have the infrastructure to do so. So given that, Coach Solich has gotten Ohio almost as far as Ohio can get, IMHO. Mark you may in fact be right. But that begs the question: what are we doing here then? Schools aren't lowering to FCS because the onlt thing attainable is a conference title game. Schools are doing the opposite, because lucrative bowl games are attainable at the FBS level. So why can't people like myself have higher expectations? What are we doing here-what's the purpose? To see the Marching 110 perform! Duh! But seriously, I guess it's what it's always been-win the MACC and all that winning a MACC entails. What's the team's purpose? The same that it's been for the last umteen years really-provide an enjoyable Fall afternoon (I mean really, what's nicer than Athens in the Fall!? Well, Athens in the Spring but I digress) for it's fans, win the game that's on the schedule and act in a manner that reflects well on the school, its students and its fans. I admit, my answer is very "Polyannish". But for me, I've never had any delusions where Ohio stands within the grand Ponzi scheme known as NCAA Division 1 football. And you can indeed have higher expectations but please realize the high cost associated with wanting to achieve more. Coach Solich makes a great deal of money but didn't I read somewhere that he's not even within the top 90 of college football coaches? And many people within the Ohio University community moaned and groaned when when he got the raise he did get. And in major college football what Solich is making is chump change! Ohio just now got an IPF and it's no-frills one at that (granted, I love the place). A lot of the MAC has had an IPF for years, so it's not like Ohio's racing ahead of anyone there. Quite frankly, where it not for the Walter faamily's financial contribution there'd be no IPF now. Ohio barely had the financial resources just to renovate the players' locker room. And what I'm about to say will be heresy to a lot of you but it is what it is-Peden Stadium's a dump. I mean really. The Tower has been renovated and from the outside looks OK, but look down in the concourse where refreshments are. It's like the Luray Caverns of Virginia down there for heavens' sake. I am being harsh, Peden's quaint and has its charm, at least to us. I like Peden. But as far as major college football stadiums go? I don't think so. And our ticket prices are much, much cheaper than at other large schools yet many people complain about how expensive our tickets already are. All this is why I say Ohio doesn't have the infrastructure nor the stomach to elevate itself into the big football conferences, and I for one am more than OK with that. And that is fine, but I think that's where I am frustrated by the whole thing. Ohio is stuck in some sort of middle ground where it will probably never get to a point where it can threaten to make a significant bowl, but it also won't be bad enough to be a bottom dweller. I guess that's the price Ohio has to pay to be a somewhat significant player in both basketball and football. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 2,992 Status: Offline     RE: Back up off the ledge, people    Posted: 9/15/2014 7:05:23 PM  Quote: Mark Lembright '85 wrote: Mark you may in fact be right. But that begs the question: what are we doing here then? Schools aren't lowering to FCS because the onlt thing attainable is a conference title game. Schools are doing the opposite, because lucrative bowl games are attainable at the FBS level. So why can't people like myself have higher expectations? What are we doing here-what's the purpose? To see the Marching 110 perform! Duh! But seriously, I guess it's what it's always been-win the MACC and all that winning a MACC entails. What's the team's purpose? The same that it's been for the last umteen years really-provide an enjoyable Fall afternoon (I mean really, what's nicer than Athens in the Fall!? Well, Athens in the Spring but I digress) for it's fans, win the game that's on the schedule and act in a manner that reflects well on the school, its students and its fans. I admit, my answer is very "Polyannish". But for me, I've never had any delusions where Ohio stands within the grand Ponzi scheme known as NCAA Division 1 football. And you can indeed have higher expectations but please realize the high cost associated with wanting to achieve more. Coach Solich makes a great deal of money but didn't I read somewhere that he's not even within the top 90 of college football coaches? And many people within the Ohio University community moaned and groaned when when he got the raise he did get. And in major college football what Solich is making is chump change! Ohio just now got an IPF and it's no-frills one at that (granted, I love the place). A lot of the MAC has had an IPF for years, so it's not like Ohio's racing ahead of anyone there. Quite frankly, where it not for the Walter faamily's financial contribution there'd be no IPF now. Ohio barely had the financial resources just to renovate the players' locker room. And what I'm about to say will be heresy to a lot of you but it is what it is-Peden Stadium's a dump. I mean really. The Tower has been renovated and from the outside looks OK, but look down in the concourse where refreshments are. It's like the Luray Caverns of Virginia down there for heavens' sake. I am being harsh, Peden's quaint and has its charm, at least to us. I like Peden. But as far as major college football stadiums go? I don't think so. And our ticket prices are much, much cheaper than at other large schools yet many people complain about how expensive our tickets already are. All this is why I say Ohio doesn't have the infrastructure nor the stomach to elevate itself into the big football conferences, and I for one am more than OK with that. Amen! Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,067 Status: Offline     RE: Back up off the ledge, people    Posted: 9/15/2014 8:11:15 PM  C Money wrote: ...(A) After 3 games, we're 1-2. This is where most of us predicted we would be.... Of 24 picks: 2 expected Ohio to be 3-0. Those 2 expected 10.5 wins on average. 10 expected Ohio to be 2-1. These 10 expected 8.8 wins on average. 7 expected Ohio to be 1-2 (all had the correct win). Those 7 expected 7 wins on average. 5 expected Ohio to be 0-3. Those expected 5.8 wins on average. Last Edited: 9/15/2014 8:27:40 PM by L.C. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top RPO R6V General User Member Since: 1/7/2005 Post Count: 206 Status: Offline     RE: Back up off the ledge, people    Posted: 9/15/2014 8:47:11 PM  Quote: Damn straight I hope Ohio plays in an Orange Bowl some day. Hey, stop hoping! You convinced me. Ohio will never have the facilities of an NIU and will never ever be able to recruit a Jordan Lynch, so we should never aspire to or hope for anything greater. Back to Top Mark Lembright '85 General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Highland Heights, OH Post Count: 2,447 Status: Offline     RE: Back up off the ledge, people    Posted: 9/15/2014 9:12:52 PM  RPO R6V wrote: Quote: Damn straight I hope Ohio plays in an Orange Bowl some day. Hey, stop hoping! You convinced me. Ohio will never have the facilities of an NIU and will never ever be able to recruit a Jordan Lynch, so we should never aspire to or hope for anything greater. Aspiring for more is one thing. PAYING for it is quite another. Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,822 Status: Offline     RE: Back up off the ledge, people    Posted: 9/15/2014 9:40:45 PM  Mark Lembright '85 wrote: RPO R6V wrote: Quote: Damn straight I hope Ohio plays in an Orange Bowl some day. Hey, stop hoping! You convinced me. Ohio will never have the facilities of an NIU and will never ever be able to recruit a Jordan Lynch, so we should never aspire to or hope for anything greater. Aspiring for more is one thing. PAYING for it is quite another. And holding those in charge accountable for not attaining the aspired goal is yet another. Back to Top Mike Johnson General User Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: North Canton, OH Post Count: 1,707 Status: Offline     RE: Back up off the ledge, people    Posted: 9/15/2014 11:47:00 PM  During my corporate career, my team members heard me say with some frequency: "Our standard is perfection. We won't always achieve perfection, but that is our standard." My team members consistently worked toward that standard and sometimes did achieve it. Now I'm less than a year from being a certifiably old person. Perhaps I've mellowed. Here is what I didn't expect when Ohio hired Coach Solich: * That he, a year older than I, still would have impressive fire in his belly. * That he would take Ohio to 3 division titles and 3 MAC title games and contend in other seasons. * That he would lead Ohio to 6 bowl games. * That he would score wins over the likes of Pitt, Illinois, Penn State, Utah State and Marshall 3X. (Was Ohio a Vegas favorite in ANY of those games?) * That he would make driving from northern Ohio to Athens on game days something to genuinely look forward to. Yes, I wish his teams would have won more games than they have and, yes, I wish at least one of his teams would have won a MAC title. That said, I am grateful that I got what I didn't expect. http://www.facebook.com/mikejohnson.author Back to Top TomCat General User Member Since: 2/13/2006 Post Count: 53 Status: Offline     RE: Back up off the ledge, people    Posted: 9/15/2014 11:51:51 PM  Right on, Mr. Johnson!!! TomCat Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Back up off the ledge, people    Posted: 9/16/2014 1:17:14 AM  I agree with Mark L about the state of Peden. I know that it would not be cheap to renovate but it sure could use $2-5 million of spruce up, especially underneath (bathrooms, concessions, walkways, etc). Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Mark Lembright '85 General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Highland Heights, OH Post Count: 2,447 Status: Offline     RE: Back up off the ledge, people    Posted: 9/16/2014 9:21:44 AM  GoCats105 wrote: Mark Lembright '85 wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Mark Lembright '85 wrote: I find most of this thread amusing. For a significant part of Ohio's gridiron history, Ohio has been just awful in football. Up until Coach Solich came, with the rare exception of a year here or there, Ohio has just plain sucked in football for two generations, literally. Now, because OUr coach can't beat an SEC team on the road nor does he beat a potentially Top 25 team on the road he's "not getting it done"? And all this while the team sits atop the MAC East! When did we as a fan base become so demanding? PG asked, what is our goal, beating mediocre teams? No. Our goal at the very most is a MAC Championship, nothing more. A goal which ironically is still attainable for Ohio. Neither a national championship nor a BCS bowl has never ever been nor will it ever be attainable for Ohio. Ever. Ohio is not that kind of school that will support the effort to get to that level and it will never have the infrastructure to do so. So given that, Coach Solich has gotten Ohio almost as far as Ohio can get, IMHO. Mark you may in fact be right. But that begs the question: what are we doing here then? Schools aren't lowering to FCS because the onlt thing attainable is a conference title game. Schools are doing the opposite, because lucrative bowl games are attainable at the FBS level. So why can't people like myself have higher expectations? What are we doing here-what's the purpose? To see the Marching 110 perform! Duh! But seriously, I guess it's what it's always been-win the MACC and all that winning a MACC entails. What's the team's purpose? The same that it's been for the last umteen years really-provide an enjoyable Fall afternoon (I mean really, what's nicer than Athens in the Fall!? Well, Athens in the Spring but I digress) for it's fans, win the game that's on the schedule and act in a manner that reflects well on the school, its students and its fans. I admit, my answer is very "Polyannish". But for me, I've never had any delusions where Ohio stands within the grand Ponzi scheme known as NCAA Division 1 football. And you can indeed have higher expectations but please realize the high cost associated with wanting to achieve more. Coach Solich makes a great deal of money but didn't I read somewhere that he's not even within the top 90 of college football coaches? And many people within the Ohio University community moaned and groaned when when he got the raise he did get. And in major college football what Solich is making is chump change! Ohio just now got an IPF and it's no-frills one at that (granted, I love the place). A lot of the MAC has had an IPF for years, so it's not like Ohio's racing ahead of anyone there. Quite frankly, where it not for the Walter faamily's financial contribution there'd be no IPF now. Ohio barely had the financial resources just to renovate the players' locker room. And what I'm about to say will be heresy to a lot of you but it is what it is-Peden Stadium's a dump. I mean really. The Tower has been renovated and from the outside looks OK, but look down in the concourse where refreshments are. It's like the Luray Caverns of Virginia down there for heavens' sake. I am being harsh, Peden's quaint and has its charm, at least to us. I like Peden. But as far as major college football stadiums go? I don't think so. And our ticket prices are much, much cheaper than at other large schools yet many people complain about how expensive our tickets already are. All this is why I say Ohio doesn't have the infrastructure nor the stomach to elevate itself into the big football conferences, and I for one am more than OK with that. And that is fine, but I think that's where I am frustrated by the whole thing. Ohio is stuck in some sort of middle ground where it will probably never get to a point where it can threaten to make a significant bowl, but it also won't be bad enough to be a bottom dweller. I guess that's the price Ohio has to pay to be a somewhat significant player in both basketball and football. I'm with you on that! But on the other hand, is what we have in football right now so bad? Heck no! Fall in Athens is great, the band's the best and for the money, we get to see pretty good football. Ohio and Coach Solich have provided pretty good memories over the last several years. What's better than a beautiful Fall day in Athens, the team wins it's Homecoming game (please, can we win the Homecoming game for once this year?!?) and the tailgating (or more likely the partying on Court St.) is lively? All in all we have nothing to complain about-hey, at least Ohio as an institution hasn't sold its soul to the devil to be in big time football like most of the teams in the SEC, Big 10 and 12, PAC, etc. And as I've said before, football as a large scale wildly popular American sport will be a thing of the past within the next 30 years or sooner anyway. Where Ohio can really make its mark is hoops but that's more properly the subject of another thread in the hoops section. Back to Top Mark Lembright '85 General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Highland Heights, OH Post Count: 2,447 Status: Offline     RE: Back up off the ledge, people    Posted: 9/16/2014 11:27:13 AM  Mike Johnson wrote: During my corporate career, my team members heard me say with some frequency: "Our standard is perfection. We won't always achieve perfection, but that is our standard." My team members consistently worked toward that standard and sometimes did achieve it. Now I'm less than a year from being a certifiably old person. Perhaps I've mellowed. Here is what I didn't expect when Ohio hired Coach Solich: * That he, a year older than I, still would have impressive fire in his belly. * That he would take Ohio to 3 division titles and 3 MAC title games and contend in other seasons. * That he would lead Ohio to 6 bowl games. * That he would score wins over the likes of Pitt, Illinois, Penn State, Utah State and Marshall 3X. (Was Ohio a Vegas favorite in ANY of those games?) * That he would make driving from northern Ohio to Athens on game days something to genuinely look forward to. Yes, I wish his teams would have won more games than they have and, yes, I wish at least one of his teams would have won a MAC title. That said, I am grateful that I got what I didn't expect. +1 Back to Top Showing Replies:   26 - 38  of 38 Posts Jump to Page:   < Previous    1 | 2 View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 317 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 315 Guests 2 Registered Users:   Diamond Cat, Bobcats1212 There are no other users looking at this page.

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