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Topic:  No More Cleveland Indians
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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 12/14/2020 6:53:15 AM 
According to the news out here,they will announce today
that they are dropping the team name.

No indication whether they have selected a new name yet,or
if they'll just be the "Cleveland Baseball Team" for now.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 12/14/2020 8:34:44 AM 
It sounds to me like this will be a phased plan; step one is to scrub away reference to the Indians, and then step two is to decide on a new name. It sounds like Spiders is gaining steam, as that was their name from 1877 - 1899.
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 12/14/2020 10:58:13 AM 
Cleveland Rocks would be a big hit for many.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-IEMlJyak
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mf279801
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  Message Not Read  RE: No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 12/14/2020 11:17:40 PM 
A few friends and I have been kicking around ideas. (Note: not all of us are Cleveland fans). Ideas include:

Great Lakers
Cleveland Rocks
Cleveland Rolls
Cleveland Grovers
Cleveland Steamers (because of their history as a Great Lakes port, not for any other reason why are you even asking I don't know what you're talking about stop giggling)
Yankees (Lets see if the NY Yankees have enough friends among MLB owners to block another team from taking the same name)
RedHawks
(And, yes, Spiders)

Last Edited: 12/14/2020 11:20:45 PM by mf279801

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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 12/15/2020 6:57:50 AM 
Chris Bumbaca (USA Today) has an interesting article (its up on Muckrack.com)
about possible names.

Goes into some names that have been used in the past,like the Negro League Cleveland Buckeyes.

Also found it interesting that Paul Dolan said they will keep the Indians name until they come up with a new one.

No "interim" name.
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spongeBOB CATpants
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  Message Not Read  RE: No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 12/22/2020 4:57:05 PM 
The best suggestion I've seen by far is the Cleveland Guardians. I like this name for a couple reasons. Its catch and "-dians" makes is sound similar to Indians. Think that would provide a smoother transition.

Another reason I really like this is how the name Guardians connects to the city and the Hope Memorial Bridge.

The Hope Memorial Bridge (formerly the Lorain–Carnegie Bridge) is a 5,865-foot-long art deco truss bridge crossing the Cuyahoga River in Cleveland, Ohio. The bridge connects Lorain Avenue on Cleveland's west side and Carnegie Avenue on the east side, terminating just short of Progressive Field. Pairs of statues designed by sculptor Henry Hering and architect Frank Walker – officially named the "Guardians of Traffic" stand on pylons at each end of the viaduct, symbolizing progress in transportation.

That was copied and pasted from Wikipedia but I'd love the logo to be based on these Guardian sculptures.

The Cleveland Guardians just makes sense.
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 12/23/2020 6:54:50 AM 
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
The best suggestion I've seen by far is the Cleveland Guardians. I like this name for a couple reasons. Its catch and "-dians" makes is sound similar to Indians. Think that would provide a smoother transition.

Another reason I really like this is how the name Guardians connects to the city and the Hope Memorial Bridge.

The Hope Memorial Bridge (formerly the Lorain–Carnegie Bridge) is a 5,865-foot-long art deco truss bridge crossing the Cuyahoga River in Cleveland, Ohio. The bridge connects Lorain Avenue on Cleveland's west side and Carnegie Avenue on the east side, terminating just short of Progressive Field. Pairs of statues designed by sculptor Henry Hering and architect Frank Walker – officially named the "Guardians of Traffic" stand on pylons at each end of the viaduct, symbolizing progress in transportation.

That was copied and pasted from Wikipedia but I'd love the logo to be based on these Guardian sculptures.

The Cleveland Guardians just makes sense.


Or Guardians could be named after the newly created Space Force.
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OUPride
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  Message Not Read  RE: No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 12/23/2020 7:17:54 AM 
The Cleveland River Flames.

What? Too soon?
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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  RE: No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 12/23/2020 11:42:29 PM 
I'd prefer the Cleveland Spiders. It would tie the team into a little of Cleveland baseball history. As I understand it, this is one of the names under serious consideration.


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Deciduous Forest Cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 12/24/2020 4:27:43 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I'd prefer the Cleveland Spiders. It would tie the team into a little of Cleveland baseball history. As I understand it, this is one of the names under serious consideration.


Guardians is a big no, because they'll be unintentionally affiliated with the joke that is space force.

All in for the Cleveland Spiders.

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  Message Not Read  RE: No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 12/29/2020 4:30:16 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
It sounds to me like this will be a phased plan; step one is to scrub away reference to the Indians, and then step two is to decide on a new name. It sounds like Spiders is gaining steam, as that was their name from 1877 - 1899.


It wasn't actually the Indians' name ever. It was the name of a separate franchise. The current Indians franchise moved to Cleveland from Grand Rapids, Michigan, after the Spiders folded. The American League team in Grand Rapids was known as the the Rustlers and then the Lake Shores, Bluebirds, Broncos and Naps over the course of 15 years before becoming the Indians in 1915.

The seperate Cleveland Spiders were a National League team (after two years in the American Association). The last year of the Spiders they were probably the worst team in the history of major league baseball. They went 20-134. They averaged 145 fans per home game and eventually started playing all games on the road.
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  Message Not Read  RE: No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 1/2/2021 10:33:02 AM 
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
It sounds to me like this will be a phased plan; step one is to scrub away reference to the Indians, and then step two is to decide on a new name. It sounds like Spiders is gaining steam, as that was their name from 1877 - 1899.


It wasn't actually the Indians' name ever. It was the name of a separate franchise. The current Indians franchise moved to Cleveland from Grand Rapids, Michigan, after the Spiders folded. The American League team in Grand Rapids was known as the the Rustlers and then the Lake Shores, Bluebirds, Broncos and Naps over the course of 15 years before becoming the Indians in 1915.

The seperate Cleveland Spiders were a National League team (after two years in the American Association). The last year of the Spiders they were probably the worst team in the history of major league baseball. They went 20-134. They averaged 145 fans per home game and eventually started playing all games on the road.


UpSan , That is excellent history. I love the migration of Pro franchises. Thank you.
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spongeBOB CATpants
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  Message Not Read  RE: No More Cleveland Indians
   Posted: 1/4/2021 11:28:39 AM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
I'd prefer the Cleveland Spiders. It would tie the team into a little of Cleveland baseball history. As I understand it, this is one of the names under serious consideration.


Guardians is a big no, because they'll be unintentionally affiliated with the joke that is space force.

All in for the Cleveland Spiders.



I tend to agree that it would be brought up, still don't think they should let that deter their choice.

What if Space force was never created? Would Guardians still be a no for you?


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