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JerseyArnie
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  Message Not Read  OU in NY Times
   Posted: 8/15/2020 11:38:25 AM 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/28/us/coronavirus-college...

"Mayor Steve Patterson of Athens estimates an undercount could cost his small city up to $40 million over the next 10 years “for things like community development block grants, jobs and family services and senior services that rely on a strong census count to get a full funding.”

“We could be feeling this for the next decade,” Mr. Patterson said."

Last Edited: 8/15/2020 11:40:15 AM by JerseyArnie

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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: OU in NY Times
   Posted: 8/15/2020 12:13:42 PM 
September 30th is the last counting day for the Census. It would seem that OU could report the names of the students enrolled on that date with an Athens address as the official "count" and then the Census bureau could cross reference those names with already submitted forms to eliminate duplicates. I keep hearing the 25,000 figure being thrown about as important but can't find why that number is important.
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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  RE: OU in NY Times
   Posted: 8/15/2020 6:25:42 PM 
If the November election unseats the current administration, I wouldn't be surprised if we have some kind of do-over with the census. Something on the order of sending census takers back out into the field next fall (when things hopefully will be back to somewhat normal) to pick up those who are missed this year.


We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: OU in NY Times
   Posted: 8/15/2020 8:54:12 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
If the November election unseats the current administration, I wouldn't be surprised if we have some kind of do-over with the census. Something on the order of sending census takers back out into the field next fall (when things hopefully will be back to somewhat normal) to pick up those who are missed this year.


That would meet a constitutional challenge and one the administration wouldn’t win
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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  RE: OU in NY Times
   Posted: 8/15/2020 10:23:13 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
If the November election unseats the current administration, I wouldn't be surprised if we have some kind of do-over with the census. Something on the order of sending census takers back out into the field next fall (when things hopefully will be back to somewhat normal) to pick up those who are missed this year.


That would meet a constitutional challenge and one the administration wouldn’t win


Not necessarily. The census is conducted under the authority of Congress and the administration could get congressional approval. I think Congress would okay it because enough legislators on both sides would want the census to not undercount communities in their state and would likely be getting pressure from their own state government and their constituents.

Also any state, county or local government could ask for a special census if they believe that there is a significant increase in their communities due to growth or annexation. "Growth" would likely include an influx of students who studied remotely one year but on-campus the next. The government requesting the special census would have to pay for it, but the cost may be more than offset by increased revenue from the feds that could result from the special census.
They should know by March 31 whether a special census is necessary. That's the date the Census Bureau is supposed to provide data to states for redistricting purposes.


We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: OU in NY Times
   Posted: 8/15/2020 10:48:28 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
If the November election unseats the current administration, I wouldn't be surprised if we have some kind of do-over with the census. Something on the order of sending census takers back out into the field next fall (when things hopefully will be back to somewhat normal) to pick up those who are missed this year.


That would meet a constitutional challenge and one the administration wouldn’t win


Not necessarily. The census is conducted under the authority of Congress and the administration could get congressional approval. I think Congress would okay it because enough legislators on both sides would want the census to not undercount communities in their state and would likely be getting pressure from their own state government and their constituents.

Also any state, county or local government could ask for a special census if they believe that there is a significant increase in their communities due to growth or annexation. "Growth" would likely include an influx of students who studied remotely one year but on-campus the next. The government requesting the special census would have to pay for it, but the cost may be more than offset by increased revenue from the feds that could result from the special census.
They should know by March 31 whether a special census is necessary. That's the date the Census Bureau is supposed to provide data to states for redistricting purposes.



You keep believing that. Let me know how it works out. The 1954 law would have to be amended to allow a recount, like I said, let me know how your idea works out. I’ll be waiting.
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: OU in NY Times
   Posted: 8/15/2020 10:49:41 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
If the November election unseats the current administration, I wouldn't be surprised if we have some kind of do-over with the census. Something on the order of sending census takers back out into the field next fall (when things hopefully will be back to somewhat normal) to pick up those who are missed this year.


That would meet a constitutional challenge and one the administration wouldn’t win


Not necessarily. The census is conducted under the authority of Congress and the administration could get congressional approval. I think Congress would okay it because enough legislators on both sides would want the census to not undercount communities in their state and would likely be getting pressure from their own state government and their constituents.

Also any state, county or local government could ask for a special census if they believe that there is a significant increase in their communities due to growth or annexation. "Growth" would likely include an influx of students who studied remotely one year but on-campus the next. The government requesting the special census would have to pay for it, but the cost may be more than offset by increased revenue from the feds that could result from the special census.
They should know by March 31 whether a special census is necessary. That's the date the Census Bureau is supposed to provide data to states for redistricting purposes.



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