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RPO R6V
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  Message Not Read  Eastern Michigan scholarship program
   Posted: 10/31/2018 12:33:09 PM 
Saw a billboard for this yesterday in the Detroit suburbs:

https://www.emich.edu/admissions/undergraduate/first-year...
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mf279801
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  Message Not Read  RE: Eastern Michigan scholarship program
   Posted: 10/31/2018 2:07:02 PM 
Ha! Thats clever of EMU, offering to pay the LAST two years of a 4-year program (i.e. the qualifying students pay tuition on their own during the first two-- typically much higher attrition--years). AND they strongly encourage (though apparently not require?) that you live on campus all 4 years.
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: Eastern Michigan scholarship program
   Posted: 11/3/2018 5:55:23 PM 
Pretty low academic performance needed to qualify.
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UpSan Bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Eastern Michigan scholarship program
   Posted: 11/4/2018 10:21:14 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
Pretty low academic performance needed to qualify.


Especially when you consider it's one or the other: Either a 20 ACT or 3.0 high school GPA. If a student can't obtain one of those, they likely don't belong in college.
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ChiCat2018
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  Message Not Read  RE: Eastern Michigan scholarship program
   Posted: 11/5/2018 11:27:49 AM 
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Pretty low academic performance needed to qualify.


Especially when you consider it's one or the other: Either a 20 ACT or 3.0 high school GPA. If a student can't obtain one of those, they likely don't belong in college.


It's a 3.0 and one of the ACT or SAT. However a 20 is slightly below average. SAT standards are also roughly 50th percentile.

https://magoosh.com/hs/act/2017/act-score-range-good-act-... /
https://www.collegeraptor.com/getting-in/articles/act-sat... /
https://blog.prepscholar.com/what-is-a-good-sat-score-a-b...

Either way you slice it, it's really low standards.
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Recovering Journalist
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  Message Not Read  RE: Eastern Michigan scholarship program
   Posted: 11/5/2018 4:03:18 PM 
This might be a desperate measure, but it's probably a smart one for EMU. They're in an pretty bad enrollment free fall, and they have a low rate of success in graduating kids who start as freshmen. This would address both issues, and ideally improve the academic profile.

This nugget from Crain's last spring shows how dire it is: (EMU's) total enrollment as of this winter semester is 18,500, according to data from the university's website. That's down nearly 2,000 from last fall when enrollment was at 20,313. Total fall enrollment in 2012 was 23,502.

A drop of 5,000 in six years puts serious strain on every aspect of the budget. They gotta get creative, and this is one way to do it.

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Uncle Wes
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  Message Not Read  RE: Eastern Michigan scholarship program
   Posted: 11/11/2018 9:51:42 AM 
We've been told that having the football program on national TV was worth 2-3 million dollars of marketing value per appearance to the institution. In EMU we have a situation where a school has invested heavily in their football program and has itself on national TV quite a few times now on CBS Sports. Yet despite all of this enrollment at EMU dropping like a rock.


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OUPride
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  Message Not Read  RE: Eastern Michigan scholarship program
   Posted: 11/14/2018 9:50:04 AM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
We've been told that having the football program on national TV was worth 2-3 million dollars of marketing value per appearance to the institution. In EMU we have a situation where a school has invested heavily in their football program and has itself on national TV quite a few times now on CBS Sports. Yet despite all of this enrollment at EMU dropping like a rock.


That's because the whole "front porch of the university" "Flutie Effect" nonsense is a myth meant to justify athletic spending and more precisely justifty athletic subsidies. As if spending a dollar on athletics magically creates a dollar and a half of academic worth, so heaven forbid the university actually spend that dollar directly on........I don't know...........academics in the first place.

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Uncle Wes
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  Message Not Read  RE: Eastern Michigan scholarship program
   Posted: 12/6/2018 7:59:50 PM 
Recovering Journalist wrote:
This might be a desperate measure, but it's probably a smart one for EMU. They're in an pretty bad enrollment free fall, and they have a low rate of success in graduating kids who start as freshmen. This would address both issues, and ideally improve the academic profile.


EMU is supposed to be a mid tier public university with Oakland the lower tier one and now they are in direct competition. Its a poor excuse for a mid tier university. Mid tier is how I see the MAC except for Toledo and Akron lower tier by design (though very good for that tier). Miami and OU I see as excellent for the middle tier. Buffalo is close but not quite top tier.


Bobcat Sustainability
2018 Quentin Poling, 7th Round (Miami Dolphins)
2017 Tarell Basham, 3rd Round (Indianapolis Colts)
2017 Blair Brown, 5th Round (Jacksonville Jaguars)
2014 Travis Carrie, 7th Round (Oakland Raiders)
2013 Eric Herman, 7th Round (New York Giants)
2012 LaVon Brazil, 6th Round (Indianapolis Colts)
2010 Taylor Price, 3rd Round (NE Patriots)
2009 Mike Mitchell, 2nd Round (Oakland Raiders)
2008 Landon Cohen, 7th Round (Detroit Lions)

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