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Topic:  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 7/14/2017 10:10:01 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
. . . In high school, and summers in college, I used to work as a mechanic at a gas station. Can't tell you how many times we had to go help someone with a Beetle who went to change a flat and found the spare was "soft",because the spare's air powered the windshield washer.


Hmm . . . I had a circa 1960 bettle and I don't remember this at all. I'm call this Fake News! :-)


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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 7/15/2017 8:47:13 AM 
Not fake at all. My 67 Bahama Blue VW had that window washer/spare tire set up.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 7/15/2017 11:03:23 PM 
74 Cat wrote:
Not fake at all. My 67 Bahama Blue VW had that window washer/spare tire set up.


Really, I wonder what years were affected by this strange set up. I'm fairly certain mine was not.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 7/16/2017 7:38:01 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
74 Cat wrote:
Not fake at all. My 67 Bahama Blue VW had that window washer/spare tire set up.


Really, I wonder what years were affected by this strange set up. I'm fairly certain mine was not.


According to this Wikipedia article (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle ) the spare tire providing pressure to the windshield wiper-spray system was introduced with the 1968 model year. I didn't read far enough to figure out when this feature was phased out
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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 7/16/2017 11:30:02 PM 
mf279801 wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
74 Cat wrote:
Not fake at all. My 67 Bahama Blue VW had that window washer/spare tire set up.


Really, I wonder what years were affected by this strange set up. I'm fairly certain mine was not.


According to this Wikipedia article (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle ) the spare tire providing pressure to the windshield wiper-spray system was introduced with the 1968 model year. I didn't read far enough to figure out when this feature was phased out



Well, this confirms my memory since mine was circa 1960, bought in 1964. Sounds like one of the dumbest ideas I've heard from "German Engineering." I guess these are also the folks who figured out how to produce a car that would emit more pollution than allowed but then use internal software to fool EPA testing equipment. Just never know what they'll do next.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 7/17/2017 8:21:44 AM 
According to the Wikipedia article the Beetle had a sensor to prevent the spare from going below a certain air pressure.

Either the sensor had issues,or the connection could leak if it wasn't tight enough,because we had to fill a number of really soft Beetle spares.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 7/17/2017 8:50:35 AM 
http://1967beetle.com/windshield-washer-system /
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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 7/17/2017 9:07:47 AM 
Thanks for posting the article.
That explains a lot.

Guess some people came up with the idea of using the spare tire instead of a separate air canister.

Back then,you could pick up what you needed at the corner hardware store of bike shop.

That would also explain how you could completely deflate the spare.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 8/7/2017 4:33:09 PM 
https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/7/16107324/pilotless-plan...

And...

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/06/ar... /


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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 9/11/2017 7:13:03 AM 
One of the things that came up during this discussion was the possibility of the ability for the entire driverless vehicle system to be shut down by the government or other entity.

Reading an article in today's The Record,that might also happen with any newer vehicle.

According the the article,to help out people in Fla., Tesla temporarily increased the range of their vehicles.
Apparently,all Tesla's have longer range batteries,but they need to be unlocked.

Tesla did this remotely.

If they can increase their cars' range by pushing a button,could they also shut the vehicle down ?

I also wonder what could be done to vehicles that are wi-fi enabled.

The new Escape I just bought has the ability enable its computer software to be updated,automatically,via wi-fi.
Who knows what else could be done,no computer,no car.

Maybe,to quote Ozzie,I'm just Paranoid.


Last Edited: 9/11/2017 7:14:13 AM by rpbobcat

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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 10/18/2017 6:45:02 AM 
Guess you can call this an "acid test".

According to an article in today's The Record,Cruise Automation is seeking permission to test fully autonomous vehicles in Lower Manhattan next year.

The vehicles will be fully autonomous,but have a technician and observer,just in case.

Wonder if they come with a loudspeaker to curse out pedestrians that step in front of them ?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 10/18/2017 9:52:58 AM 
And a prosthetic middle finger that flips out of the driver's side window.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 11/8/2017 10:47:14 PM 
Welp...

https://www.apnews.com/41533034709b458695cc832a5f8bb56d/S...
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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 11/9/2017 11:54:50 AM 
MedinaCat wrote:
Welp...

https://www.apnews.com/41533034709b458695cc832a5f8bb56d/S...


"The human behind the wheel of the truck was at fault, police said."


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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 11/17/2017 10:29:08 AM 
Tesla showcased a Semi.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/16/this-is-teslas-big-new-... /

It has a bunch of cameras to enhance truckers views along with Tesla's "Enhanced Autopilot" which includes emergency braking, lane keeping and lane departure warnings.

I started driving a vehicle with safety technology like lane keeping assist and blind-spot warnings earlier this year. It's one of those things that I certainly don't "need" but considering technology like that is getting more and more affordable every year, I don't see myself purchasing a vehicle without those features ever again.

Considering how much bigger and less maneuverable semis are, I can only began to imagine how much autonomous features like that will improve road safety.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 11/17/2017 11:06:12 AM 
The Optimist wrote:
Tesla showcased a Semi.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/16/this-is-teslas-big-new-... /

It has a bunch of cameras to enhance truckers views along with Tesla's "Enhanced Autopilot" which includes emergency braking, lane keeping and lane departure warnings.

I started driving a vehicle with safety technology like lane keeping assist and blind-spot warnings earlier this year. It's one of those things that I certainly don't "need" but considering technology like that is getting more and more affordable every year, I don't see myself purchasing a vehicle without those features ever again.

Considering how much bigger and less maneuverable semis are, I can only began to imagine how much autonomous features like that will improve road safety.


I read an article about this yesterday.
The one limitation,for the foreseeable future is that the large trucks will only have a range of about 100 miles per full charge.

That will however make them desirable for certain commercial fleets like delivery and postal vehicles.




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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 11/17/2017 12:41:28 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
Tesla showcased a Semi.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/16/this-is-teslas-big-new-... /

It has a bunch of cameras to enhance truckers views along with Tesla's "Enhanced Autopilot" which includes emergency braking, lane keeping and lane departure warnings.

I started driving a vehicle with safety technology like lane keeping assist and blind-spot warnings earlier this year. It's one of those things that I certainly don't "need" but considering technology like that is getting more and more affordable every year, I don't see myself purchasing a vehicle without those features ever again.

Considering how much bigger and less maneuverable semis are, I can only began to imagine how much autonomous features like that will improve road safety.


I read an article about this yesterday.
The one limitation,for the foreseeable future is that the large trucks will only have a range of about 100 miles per full charge.

That will however make them desirable for certain commercial fleets like delivery and postal vehicles.






500 miles per charge is the number Tesla gave for this Semi.

Electric vs Diesel and Human Driver vs Autonomous are two separate issues though. No reason a traditional semi running on Diesel couldn't incorporate autonomous features.


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The Optimist wrote:

500 miles per charge is the number Tesla gave for this Semi.

Electric vs Diesel and Human Driver vs Autonomous are two separate issues though. No reason a traditional semi running on Diesel couldn't incorporate autonomous features. 

The article used the 100 mile range based on the additional wieght and cost for the batteries needed for an extended range.

As far as autonomous features,I don't know what the big deal is.

The Simpsons used a self driving semi years ago.   smiley

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   Posted: 2/27/2018 10:49:07 AM 
There was story on the new this morning on California giving permission to test fully autonomous vehicles on public roads.

There's an article on it on "theverge.com".

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   Posted: 2/28/2018 9:38:44 AM 
The Optimist wrote:

500 miles per charge is the number Tesla gave for this Semi.


I just assume highway gas stations will become battery changing stations. I recall lots of talk about this several years ago. But, seems to have died down.






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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 2/28/2018 10:34:21 AM 
Ohio69 wrote:
The Optimist wrote:

500 miles per charge is the number Tesla gave for this Semi.


I just assume highway gas stations will become battery changing stations. I recall lots of talk about this several years ago. But, seems to have died down.







I would imagine it'll happen eventually but I have no clue the timeline. Batteries are small enough and cheap enough now I would imagine it wouldn't even be that tough of an add. I have always wondered how long it'll take before "free car-charging parking spots" disappear.

Both the private garage under my apartment building and the public parking garage next to the building I work in offer a couple "free-charging parking" so I could easily get away with not ever paying to charge an electric car. What makes it more tempting is the spots are pretty prime location and are rarely occupied!


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   Posted: 2/28/2018 11:02:41 AM 
The Optimist wrote:
Ohio69 wrote:
The Optimist wrote:

500 miles per charge is the number Tesla gave for this Semi.


I just assume highway gas stations will become battery changing stations. I recall lots of talk about this several years ago. But, seems to have died down.







I would imagine it'll happen eventually but I have no clue the timeline. Batteries are small enough and cheap enough now I would imagine it wouldn't even be that tough of an add. I have always wondered how long it'll take before "free car-charging parking spots" disappear.

Both the private garage under my apartment building and the public parking garage next to the building I work in offer a couple "free-charging parking" so I could easily get away with not ever paying to charge an electric car. What makes it more tempting is the spots are pretty prime location and are rarely occupied!


What I also think you're going to see,if electric cars catch on,and start significantly reducing the gas tax revenues,is some type of mileage tax using a "black box" in the cars.



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   Posted: 2/28/2018 1:11:04 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
What I also think you're going to see,if electric cars catch on,and start significantly reducing the gas tax revenues,is some type of mileage tax using a "black box" in the cars.


Oh man. I hadn't thought of how to replace gas tax revenue....






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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 3/1/2018 2:39:00 PM 
Ohio69 wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
What I also think you're going to see,if electric cars catch on,and start significantly reducing the gas tax revenues,is some type of mileage tax using a "black box" in the cars.


Oh man. I hadn't thought of how to replace gas tax revenue....



Mileage tax is definitely the most likely. Since the gas tax hasn't been raised since 1993 it has become less and less effective as a funding mechanism. I imagine we'll keep seeing more and more toll roads as well. If Trump's infrastructure plan or something similar to it ever passes then we'll see localities and states working hard to find more revenue. Currently most federal projects only require a 20% match. Trump's plan turns that on its head and requires an 80% match from states/localities.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Vedder shifts his fire onto parking services
   Posted: 3/22/2018 6:28:35 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
There was story on the new this morning on California giving permission to test fully autonomous vehicles on public roads.

There's an article on it on "theverge.com".



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