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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/2/2021 9:22:41 PM 
This is one of the craziest story lines in recent Bobcat history. The fact that we could possibly return every key member of a NCAA tournament team, the Coach has no immediate plans to leave, and we are now adding a former player who has experience and versatility to help us in several areas. I don't know how much Jason Carter will be a difference maker, but I'd rather have an experienced guy like him than taking a chance on someone else fitting in. It is a "win now" move with this roster and I'm totally onboard with that logic given the opportunity in front of us. I am very excited to see this team come together next year.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/2/2021 9:25:11 PM 
We have 7 starting caliber players on the team already for next year. We might have Sears and Carter coming off the bench when they would be starters for almost any other team in the MAC.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/2/2021 9:27:12 PM 
The Optimist wrote:
Iím not buying a ďlesser roleĒ for Carter. He didnít score at X like he did his last year here, but he still played a lot of minutes for them (against Big East competition) and had some big games. I would be surprised if he didnít average 30mpg for us next year.


Agree completely, even if he comes off the bench. His last year with the Bobcats he averaged 16.5 points per game. Just saying...
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/2/2021 9:28:32 PM 
There's now way more than enough offensive fire power to overcome any rim protection shortcomings. Carter adds a dimension that didn't exist on our roster this past year: a player with size that can create a good shot within the arc. A healthy Jason Carter is better than BVP off the dribble, but Ben is the better jump shooter.

I think whatever scholarships that remain have to go towards prepping for the 22/23 season. It's awesome that we are going to have at least three 1,000 point scorers next year (depending on whether JP declares) but they are all gone the next. At this point, assuming we are staying with 13 scholarship players, I would go with a young true center type. Maybe an incoming freshman who could play in an emergency, or someone who is now transferring from elsewhere having just completed his first year and will sit.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/2/2021 10:30:07 PM 
Lost in this storyline is that Boals signs on. The best player (stats wise) on the team does not want to stay. Leaves for X, Yet Boals maintains a relationship (because it's the right thing to do), and the player ends up returning. Says volumes about the coach.

Last Edited: 4/2/2021 10:31:16 PM by cc-cat

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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/2/2021 11:42:52 PM 
Carter has size to play center and forward. Trio of Wilson,BVP and Carter probably split 80 minutes with Bvp 25 Carter 25, Wilson 20 and Granger/Clayton 10. My guess is Boals plays JP about 30 with Sears 25 McDay 25. Roderick about 25 with 10 Brown 5 White. Deeper bench makes team stronger.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 12:20:05 AM 
Guys - Jason Carter is exactly what this roster needs! Yes, I have a long history of a man crush on JC, but hear me out.

This team needed defense. Jason is an elite defender. He has tremendous help defense and overall positioning. Maybe not a ton of blocks, but countless situations where he prevents the shots from ever being taken. He was one of the best defenders in the MAC and will be again. You can trust him to switch off and defend just about anyone on the court.

On offense, we do not need another scorer or ball handler...we need a guy to facilitate the scorers we do have while being able to hit a few shots here and there. He'll clear out well, and he will position himself for plenty of rebounds.

He is a system guy, a true glue guy! Run an offense or defense and you can count on him to execute it as it is drawn up.

He played 28 mins per game at Xavier, I expect the same at Ohio. I actually view it as a Wilson (offense) / Carter (defense) platoon. Don't be surprised to see Dwight play more mins when down and Carter play more when up. Obviously they will play together a good bit too. I would guess about 25 mins a game with just 1 on and about 15 mins a game with both. And BOTH will be able to be encouraged to play more aggressively and not be as worried about foul trouble.

Rifen/Nolan/McMurray transferring makes all the sense in the world. With this addition, they aren't going to see regular minutes without an injury.

An awesome 8 man rotation!

2 Big man slots - 80 mins - BVP/DW3/JC
2 Guard slots - 80 mins - JP/B-Rod/Sears
1 swing slot - 40 mins - McDay/Brown


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 1:55:18 AM 
Yesterday: Turncoat! Hope youíre enjoying shooting 30% at Xavier! We donít want people who donít want to be here!

Today; This is awesome! Welcome home! He makes this team even more dangerous!


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 2:42:23 AM 
Sorry Bobcat Dragon but, this seems fitting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKGjOE_7bYI
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 8:26:32 AM 
If only heíd have announced it in The Post with an Iím Coming Home letter.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 8:55:19 AM 
Getting a Big East big who played 25+ minutes the past two seasons would generally be cause for somersaults and hula hoops.

And so it is now, too. Easily the most surprising roster move for Ohio in my time with the program.

Makes a fella proud to be a Bobcat.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 9:09:37 AM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
I had a talk with a long-time member of the Newark boys basketball program about a month ago. He reminded me of a prediction I shared with him about 4-5 years ago that a couple of MAC players from Licking County - Carter out of Johnstown HS and Kent's BJ Duling out of Newark HS - would both contend for MAC player of the year honors before their time was up. He made sure I wouldn't forget how that prediction was an impossibility with both players transferring from their respective MAC schools. After today's news . . . ??


I believe you once predicted Reggie Rankin would put up POY numbers as well...
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 9:09:38 AM 
Not to get too technical but is this another Saul recruit or a Boals grab?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 9:26:59 AM 
There are numerous people that voiced many concerns over this move, related to team chemistry.
I would have to believe that Boals would have checked the temperature of his players about Carter before agreeing to his transfer.
I would also be curious if Carter was told his role would change @ X next year and that precipitated his transfer.
He will definitely add depth.
I do agree with many that we need a rim protector, even if the player is a freshman big, real big, like 7' big.




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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 9:57:21 AM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:
Not to get too technical but is this another Saul recruit or a Boals grab?


A Saul recruit who Boals is going to coach up to maximize their potential. Too many on here emphasize the "BVP and Preston were Saul recruits so leave Saul alone" part but I like to look at the player development and system part. I truly believe Saul recruited decent MAC talent. I just think he was not a great Xs and Os and player development guy at our level. He is great in the Dakotas and D2. DW3 definitely grew under Boals which tells me he and his staff develop talent. Nothing against James Madison but Dwight was better after one year here.
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   Posted: 4/3/2021 10:37:41 AM 
bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:
We have 7 starting caliber players on the team already for next year. We might have Sears and Carter coming off the bench when they would be starters for almost any other team in the MAC.


And this doesn't even include at least one more high quality player that you know Boals is going to bring in. Love what Boals is doing. He's all in and going for it in 2021-2022. And if that means some players had to leave the program to help get us there, I'm all for it. It's all part of the process.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 10:39:50 AM 
Bobcat1998 wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
Not to get too technical but is this another Saul recruit or a Boals grab?


A Saul recruit who Boals is going to coach up to maximize their potential. Too many on here emphasize the "BVP and Preston were Saul recruits so leave Saul alone" part but I like to look at the player development and system part. I truly believe Saul recruited decent MAC talent. I just think he was not a great Xs and Os and player development guy at our level. He is great in the Dakotas and D2. DW3 definitely grew under Boals which tells me he and his staff develop talent. Nothing against James Madison but Dwight was better after one year here.


+1


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 10:50:44 AM 
Cannot wait to see us go big for stretches and bully a team for five straight minutes.

Just a different dimension added and makes foul trouble much less of a concern.

This means a fresh and rested Dwight all the time. Thatís exciting.

Last Edited: 4/3/2021 10:51:43 AM by .

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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 11:05:41 AM 
. wrote:
Cannot wait to see us go big for stretches and bully a team for five straight minutes.

Just a different dimension added and makes foul trouble much less of a concern.

This means a fresh and rested Dwight all the time. Thatís exciting.


This.

Bigs can be more aggressive defensively. Don't have to sweat each time Wilson picks up his second foul.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 11:07:51 AM 
I believe Granger is going to be a great 4th option off bench. Another year with Boals. Someone said they would take a Vest type of player. I see no reason Granger cannot become a 6 and 6 effort guy when needed.

Greedy thought here: Sterling Manley comes to us for a year to win a MAC title, get a great journalism masters and play 8 to 10 mins a game. Who could contend with:
PG: Preston
SG: Lundo
SF: Brod
PF: BVP
C: Wilson
Bench: Sears, Carter, Brown, Manley, Granger and stronger White.

Last Edited: 4/3/2021 11:48:09 AM by Bobcat1998

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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 12:32:11 PM 
1 major benefit that Carter brings, even if he never sets foot on the court is that he improves who the starters get to practice against.

When you are five or 6 deep in the MAC and you practice against guys that wouldn't make it on the floor at any other MAC team than it becomes difficult at least for the first half of the season to be ready to see top talent.

It really becomes noticeable when you get to The Dance. I recall DJ vs NC late with the Cats up four and he makes a steal with a head of steam to the other end. About at half court an NC player makes his pursuit and as DJ goes up for a layup thinking of a 6 point margin, whack, his shot is blocked. When did DJ till then see that type of athleticism on a regular basis? Had he been playing against that type of defense he may have altered his shot, or simply driven in and back out killing time till he was fouled.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 12:33:23 PM 
I know this much, return everyone and this team is going to be a bunch of pitbulls in practice.

Wanna know how to get better for March? Have a 2nd unit that can go at the first unit full throttle and be an actual game. Would love to be able to go sit in on practice again with this group.

If all holds, good luck to the rest of the MAC and we will not get any national games on the docket. Sadly, we will be avoided as the school that no one wants to play
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 1:11:46 PM 
JSF wrote:
Yesterday: Turncoat! Hope youíre enjoying shooting 30% at Xavier! We donít want people who donít want to be here!

Today; This is awesome! Welcome home! He makes this team even more dangerous!


Another "take something person A said and compare it to something person B said to try to create hypocrisy"...a Bobcat Attack favorite. If you can find these conflicting thoughts from the same person, I'd love to see it.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 1:57:59 PM 
I think Iíll wait until the end of the transfer season to have a better idea of what weíll look like next year. Just saying.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jason Carter Returns To Ohio
   Posted: 4/3/2021 2:19:08 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
Lost in this storyline is that Boals signs on. The best player (stats wise) on the team does not want to stay. Leaves for X, Yet Boals maintains a relationship (because it's the right thing to do), and the player ends up returning. Says volumes about the coach.


Carter must of asked the question if Boals was staying so a contract extension must be in the works.


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