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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fan Feedback response Email
   Posted: 7/17/2019 5:33:19 PM 
ts1227 wrote:
Recovering Journalist wrote:
ts1227 wrote:
Not surprised the security thing fell on deaf ears. Until Powers is run out of OUPD entering a football or basketball game will always consist of a brief trip through Fallujah


Agreed. I'd be surprised if any federal agency recommends all the hoops and hideous barriers on the outside of the Convo. Even if they do, there's still absolutely no logic to having scores of yellow jackets making the in-arena experience as inconvenient and unpleasant as possible (i.e. disallowing movement on the inner concourse and slowing egress in many other ways). You know there are too many because they have lots of spare time -- I saw more than one yellow jacket catch and keep promotional items last year. I wonder if that's in the Homeland Security handbook.


Iíve only been to Kent recently in terms of other MAC venues, but entering Dix Stadium is nothing like entering Peden. I would assume most others have had similar experiences at other sites. Hell, even Cleveland keeps the roads beside Gund Arena open and doesnít claim they canít because someone might set off a bomb. Itís all a load of crap but no one at the university cares enough to intervene.


The also don't get any fans at Dix.

BOOM.



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ts1227
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fan Feedback response Email
   Posted: 7/18/2019 8:10:57 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:

The also don't get any fans at Dix.

BOOM.


Iíve been to my fair share of 11AM Black Friday games there vs. Ohio and thereís usually about 500 of us. One year it was about 20 degrees out to boot.

Last time was their home opener when we played them, night game a few years back. It was pretty full and I didnít fear for my life without a bunker and a tank placed between the parking and the entrance.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fan Feedback response Email
   Posted: 7/18/2019 8:31:46 AM 
Not that I am a fan of the new security, but KSU's Dix Stadium also doesn't have spectators' cars parked within feet of the stands, nor is there a stream of attendees crossing the inbound traffic at one of the main parking lots. Public parking at KSU is separated from the stadium walkways by about 60 yards minimum.
Anyone could have plowed, intentionally or not, into 100 or more fans at Peden under the old system.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Fan Feedback response Email
   Posted: 7/18/2019 8:48:55 AM 
ts1227 wrote:
Recovering Journalist wrote:
ts1227 wrote:
Not surprised the security thing fell on deaf ears. Until Powers is run out of OUPD entering a football or basketball game will always consist of a brief trip through Fallujah


Agreed. I'd be surprised if any federal agency recommends all the hoops and hideous barriers on the outside of the Convo. Even if they do, there's still absolutely no logic to having scores of yellow jackets making the in-arena experience as inconvenient and unpleasant as possible (i.e. disallowing movement on the inner concourse and slowing egress in many other ways). You know there are too many because they have lots of spare time -- I saw more than one yellow jacket catch and keep promotional items last year. I wonder if that's in the Homeland Security handbook.


Iíve only been to Kent recently in terms of other MAC venues, but entering Dix Stadium is nothing like entering Peden. I would assume most others have had similar experiences at other sites. Hell, even Cleveland keeps the roads beside Gund Arena open and doesnít claim they canít because someone might set off a bomb. Itís all a load of crap but no one at the university cares enough to intervene.


A couple of things about security at various venues:

1.There's a lot of attention paid to preventing terrorist attacks at/in the actual venue.
For example,with all the concrete barriers and the width of the plaza,between the entry gates and the structure,it would be hard to attack Metlife stadium.

However,there's nothing to stop someone from driving into the parking lots and detonating a carload of explosives in the parking lot.

Same thing,there's nothing to stop a suicide bomber from walking up to one of the security gates,which tend to get packed around kickoff time,and detonating a bomb.

2.I don't know about Ohio,but in N.J.,depending on the event/venue,local,county and/or state Law Enforcement decide what security is needed.
Except,when we had the Super Bowl.
The every agency in the world was involved.
I also believe that NFL Stadiums all have the same policies when it comes to things like bags.

Edit:I was talking to a friend of mine who is a chief of police.
He said in N.J.,a college dean/president determines the security for anything on campus.


3.I do a lot of work with people in various law enforcement agencies.
One common theme among them is that,certain measures may seem like "overkill",until something happens at venue where they weren't employed.


Last Edited: 7/18/2019 1:26:43 PM by rpbobcat

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  Message Not Read  RE: Fan Feedback response Email
   Posted: 7/18/2019 2:54:49 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
What is Amy Dean's background? Is she being considered a serious candidate for the AD job?

This survey and response is everything the athletic department has lacked for decades. Very pleased with the efforts.


She'd have my vote, as professional as they come. Smart and accountable. She's been an asset to the dept. for years and has earned it, if she wants it.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fan Feedback response Email
   Posted: 7/19/2019 8:19:24 AM 
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3.I do a lot of work with people in various law enforcement agencies.
One common theme among them is that,certain measures may seem like "overkill",until something happens at venue where they weren't employed.




A sad but true reality in today's world. Anything can be weaponized it seems and if an evil person has an evil objective they will want to find a work around to carry it out.

Seems to be no limit on how low certain (less than) human beings can stoop.

Last Edited: 7/19/2019 8:20:04 AM by OUcats82


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