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Fans must have been really smart back then. This is willfully obtuse. Heaven forbid that we have any enhancement to the fan experience. The reality is that sporting events have moved past "paying attention to the game" whether you and I like it or not. A simple video scoreboard at least gets us a bit closer to the fan experience that the average college-aged kid wants. I guess you haven't been in the Convo for a game lately. The vast majority of people attending the games are not college-aged kids. You do realize you just proved the point, right??! Wow Back to Top The Better Ohio Bobcat General User Member Since: 3/28/2017 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 196 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/17/2018 7:47:37 PM  Alan Swank wrote: How did we survive when we had to keep each player's score and number of fouls in the printed program and had to pay attention to the game? Fans must have been really smart back then. Are you serious because if so that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Back to Top The Better Ohio Bobcat General User Member Since: 3/28/2017 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 196 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/17/2018 7:53:06 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Recovering Journalist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: How did we survive when we had to keep each player's score and number of fouls in the printed program and had to pay attention to the game? Fans must have been really smart back then. This is willfully obtuse. Heaven forbid that we have any enhancement to the fan experience. The reality is that sporting events have moved past "paying attention to the game" whether you and I like it or not. A simple video scoreboard at least gets us a bit closer to the fan experience that the average college-aged kid wants. I guess you haven't been in the Convo for a game lately. The vast majority of people attending the games are not college-aged kids. That’s what everyone wants, not just college kids. Last Edited: 7/17/2018 8:02:33 PM by The Better Ohio Bobcat Back to Top The Better Ohio Bobcat General User Member Since: 3/28/2017 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 196 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/17/2018 7:58:15 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: Alan Swank wrote: How did we survive when we had to keep each player's score and number of fouls in the printed program and had to pay attention to the game? Fans must have been really smart back then. Oh my god. You should just make your signature "...and Get off my lawn!" And you should get a new phrase of criticism. Yes times have changed but some people can still enjoy the game without all of the bells and whistles. That was the beauty of the World Cup - no commercials during play and no promos during stoppage time. We've become a society with a very short attention span. Why don’t you want to know the stats. How is it going to not improve the experience??? smh Back to Top Recovering Journalist General User Member Since: 8/17/2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Post Count: 1,839 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/17/2018 8:21:42 PM  Alan Swank wrote: No one said "do nothing." Here are several things that might attract not only students but more local fans. 1) Light the Convo up on game night. You can drive by the building at 7:00 on a game night and not even know a game is scheduled that night. 2) Let students in the front door instead of making them walk all the way around back. 3) Either get it together with the Ozone or open that seating to anyone who wants to sit there. Right now, it isn't working. 4) Hire/put someone in place who understands game flow as it relates to music played when time stops. We've had so many great runs killed because it was time to go to a stupid promo on the court. 5) I'm ducking on this one. Get rid of the presentation of the colors. It's a somber moment that kills whatever pregame excitement has been generated (sorry Lou). Give me a bit more time and I can come up with five more. To the point though, I new scoreboard with none of these things happening is going to change a thing. Not a single thing you mentioned is precluded by a new scoreboard, yet you've managed to bemoan the fact that we now offer something that virtually all of our MAC peers offer, and something that makes the game experience better for everyone who doesn't want to sit with a pencil, pad and abacus to keep score. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,023 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/17/2018 9:01:20 PM  Recovering Journalist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: No one said "do nothing." Here are several things that might attract not only students but more local fans. 1) Light the Convo up on game night. You can drive by the building at 7:00 on a game night and not even know a game is scheduled that night. 2) Let students in the front door instead of making them walk all the way around back. 3) Either get it together with the Ozone or open that seating to anyone who wants to sit there. Right now, it isn't working. 4) Hire/put someone in place who understands game flow as it relates to music played when time stops. We've had so many great runs killed because it was time to go to a stupid promo on the court. 5) I'm ducking on this one. Get rid of the presentation of the colors. It's a somber moment that kills whatever pregame excitement has been generated (sorry Lou). Give me a bit more time and I can come up with five more. To the point though, I new scoreboard with none of these things happening is going to change a thing. Not a single thing you mentioned is precluded by a new scoreboard, yet you've managed to bemoan the fact that we now offer something that virtually all of our MAC peers offer, and something that makes the game experience better for everyone who doesn't want to sit with a pencil, pad and abacus to keep score. I have bemoned nothing. I've simply challenged the thinking of the 25 posters on here who think we need a new $2 million plus scoreboard. At the end of the day if the team doesn't perform, the surroundings are meaningless. Many folks, myself included, still find a way to enjoy good play on the court without all the added attractions. In essence it's sad when we have to have that stuff to get people to come to the games. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/17/2018 10:01:17 PM  While I disagree with virtually everything else that Alan has said in this thread I agree totally with two of his points: 1. We should light up the Convo on game nights, not make it look like some kind of deserted cave. 2. Make access by students (and others) easier. On #1 above: I have for some reason a very vivid memory back in the days when I was a graduate student at OHIO after returning from getting my masters at Fake Ohio. I was doing some work at the Computer Center (then located on the top floor of Clippinger); my wife came to join me and we walked over to the Convo for a game against, as I recall Loyola (Chi). The image of the lit up Convo as we walked over what was then mainly green space is vivid in my mind. It looked so inviting with the light streaming out of the huge glass area in the front of Convo. Now it looks more like a dungeon on game day. On #2: I realize that limiting of the ways you can access the Convo is largely due to security concerns, but I think there are other ways to achieve the proper level of security that are less restrictive. Our whole security protocol needs to be re-thought. Maybe a few sheriff deputies stationed in crucial spots with machine guns (as we've done at football games) would make it possible to allow people to walk the outside Convo circle again and allow students easier access to the Convo. Terrorists look for soft targets, and machine-gun armed police are certainly not a soft target. I do agree with the decision a few years ago to prevent parking under the Convo during games because of the remote possibility of a bomb in someone's trunk. But, keeping people from walking around the outside ring of the Convo is really stupid, when a little visible security would virtually erase any terrorist threat. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top 100%Cat General User Member Since: 1/17/2013 Post Count: 2,491 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/18/2018 8:05:13 AM  Alan Swank wrote: Recovering Journalist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: No one said "do nothing." Here are several things that might attract not only students but more local fans. 1) Light the Convo up on game night. You can drive by the building at 7:00 on a game night and not even know a game is scheduled that night. 2) Let students in the front door instead of making them walk all the way around back. 3) Either get it together with the Ozone or open that seating to anyone who wants to sit there. Right now, it isn't working. 4) Hire/put someone in place who understands game flow as it relates to music played when time stops. We've had so many great runs killed because it was time to go to a stupid promo on the court. 5) I'm ducking on this one. Get rid of the presentation of the colors. It's a somber moment that kills whatever pregame excitement has been generated (sorry Lou). Give me a bit more time and I can come up with five more. To the point though, I new scoreboard with none of these things happening is going to change a thing. Not a single thing you mentioned is precluded by a new scoreboard, yet you've managed to bemoan the fact that we now offer something that virtually all of our MAC peers offer, and something that makes the game experience better for everyone who doesn't want to sit with a pencil, pad and abacus to keep score. Many folks, myself included, still find a way to enjoy good play on the court without all the added attractions. In essence it's sad when we have to have that stuff to get people to come to the games. Have you considered that you are in the minority in that respect? A new scoreboard, bringing the Convo slightly out of the 1970's, can improve the game experience for a lot of fans. Whether you like it or not, that matters to some people. Is more people in the building on game day not a good thing? Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,023 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/18/2018 3:22:36 PM  100%Cat wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Recovering Journalist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: No one said "do nothing." Here are several things that might attract not only students but more local fans. 1) Light the Convo up on game night. You can drive by the building at 7:00 on a game night and not even know a game is scheduled that night. 2) Let students in the front door instead of making them walk all the way around back. 3) Either get it together with the Ozone or open that seating to anyone who wants to sit there. Right now, it isn't working. 4) Hire/put someone in place who understands game flow as it relates to music played when time stops. We've had so many great runs killed because it was time to go to a stupid promo on the court. 5) I'm ducking on this one. Get rid of the presentation of the colors. It's a somber moment that kills whatever pregame excitement has been generated (sorry Lou). Give me a bit more time and I can come up with five more. To the point though, I new scoreboard with none of these things happening is going to change a thing. Not a single thing you mentioned is precluded by a new scoreboard, yet you've managed to bemoan the fact that we now offer something that virtually all of our MAC peers offer, and something that makes the game experience better for everyone who doesn't want to sit with a pencil, pad and abacus to keep score. Many folks, myself included, still find a way to enjoy good play on the court without all the added attractions. In essence it's sad when we have to have that stuff to get people to come to the games. Have you considered that you are in the minority in that respect? A new scoreboard, bringing the Convo slightly out of the 1970's, can improve the game experience for a lot of fans. Whether you like it or not, that matters to some people. Is more people in the building on game day not a good thing? On this board of course I'm in the minority. I have been on most topics when it comes to spending money. I've never said that I'm right and anyone else is wrong in that respect. I, and I suspect that there are others, just don't need all the bells and whistles to enjoy a well played game. The only thing I'm looking forward to with the new scoreboard complex is an improved sound system. Back to Top Joe McKinley General User Member Since: 11/15/2004 Post Count: 483 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/18/2018 5:52:12 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: While I disagree with virtually everything else that Alan has said in this thread I agree totally with two of his points: 1. We should light up the Convo on game nights, not make it look like some kind of deserted cave. 2. Make access by students (and others) easier. On #1 above: I have for some reason a very vivid memory back in the days when I was a graduate student at OHIO after returning from getting my masters at Fake Ohio. I was doing some work at the Computer Center (then located on the top floor of Clippinger); my wife came to join me and we walked over to the Convo for a game against, as I recall Loyola (Chi). The image of the lit up Convo as we walked over what was then mainly green space is vivid in my mind. It looked so inviting with the light streaming out of the huge glass area in the front of Convo. Now it looks more like a dungeon on game day. On #2: I realize that limiting of the ways you can access the Convo is largely due to security concerns, but I think there are other ways to achieve the proper level of security that are less restrictive. Our whole security protocol needs to be re-thought. Maybe a few sheriff deputies stationed in crucial spots with machine guns (as we've done at football games) would make it possible to allow people to walk the outside Convo circle again and allow students easier access to the Convo. Terrorists look for soft targets, and machine-gun armed police are certainly not a soft target. I do agree with the decision a few years ago to prevent parking under the Convo during games because of the remote possibility of a bomb in someone's trunk. But, keeping people from walking around the outside ring of the Convo is really stupid, when a little visible security would virtually erase any terrorist threat. I'm not a security expert, but all of the extra doors and glass around the Convo perimeter make it much easier for someone with a nefarious purpose to be let inside by a willing accomplice or break the glass to gain entry. Extending the perimeter allows for better communication about threats and a bit more time to address an emergency. Further, should a threat require the Convo to be evacuated, having a perimeter that is at least a little more secure helps with egress. Just my two cents. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/19/2018 3:31:52 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Recovering Journalist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: I guess you haven't been in the Convo for a game lately. The vast majority of people attending the games are not college-aged kids. So doing nothing to accommodate or attract them is the right answer? Brilliant. No one said "do nothing." Here are several things that might attract not only students but more local fans. 1) Light the Convo up on game night. You can drive by the building at 7:00 on a game night and not even know a game is scheduled that night. 2) Let students in the front door instead of making them walk all the way around back. 3) Either get it together with the Ozone or open that seating to anyone who wants to sit there. Right now, it isn't working. 4) Hire/put someone in place who understands game flow as it relates to music played when time stops. We've had so many great runs killed because it was time to go to a stupid promo on the court. 5) I'm ducking on this one. Get rid of the presentation of the colors. It's a somber moment that kills whatever pregame excitement has been generated (sorry Lou). Give me a bit more time and I can come up with five more. To the point though, I new scoreboard with none of these things happening is going to change a thing. AGREED on 1, and 2. Make it easy to come to a game. Make it known all day from sun up until the game is over. Maybe even the day before. And 4 & 5 could in a way be combined into one thought: Gameday flow and Gameday experience. So much could be done in this area as has been stated within here for the last few years. We'll never agree on music in this forum, but whatever music is played, needs to have variety for all age groups over the course of the season, and can't always be the 110. And for the love, dump this "stand for defense" nonsense in favor of something more exciting. Maybe the first Ohio made Three, and get a sponsor for that, and coupons rain from the rafters after that first made Three. I actually like the idea of changing the presentation of the colors. Don't ditch it altogether, but instead, do it FIRST. Present the colors, sign the Anthem, allow the colors to depart the floor. Ask everyone to remain standing, cut the lights, play a highlight video, and do player intros. Then play something - the same thing every single game - that pumps up the crowd. Not the 110, and something that leans more toward the students and young alumni. I've said for at least 3 years that the staff at Ohio could learn a bunch by going to take in a gameday experience at UD, UC, Xavier, Butler....etc. Steal ideas from what they do. Like Alan, I hope they change how they approach gameday to go along with the new scoreboard. Otherwise, it's just a fancy decoration in The Convo. Back to Top The Better Ohio Bobcat General User Member Since: 3/28/2017 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 196 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/19/2018 3:41:24 PM  OU_Country wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Recovering Journalist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: I guess you haven't been in the Convo for a game lately. The vast majority of people attending the games are not college-aged kids. So doing nothing to accommodate or attract them is the right answer? Brilliant. No one said "do nothing." Here are several things that might attract not only students but more local fans. 1) Light the Convo up on game night. You can drive by the building at 7:00 on a game night and not even know a game is scheduled that night. 2) Let students in the front door instead of making them walk all the way around back. 3) Either get it together with the Ozone or open that seating to anyone who wants to sit there. Right now, it isn't working. 4) Hire/put someone in place who understands game flow as it relates to music played when time stops. We've had so many great runs killed because it was time to go to a stupid promo on the court. 5) I'm ducking on this one. Get rid of the presentation of the colors. It's a somber moment that kills whatever pregame excitement has been generated (sorry Lou). Give me a bit more time and I can come up with five more. To the point though, I new scoreboard with none of these things happening is going to change a thing. AGREED on 1, and 2. Make it easy to come to a game. Make it known all day from sun up until the game is over. Maybe even the day before. And 4 & 5 could in a way be combined into one thought: Gameday flow and Gameday experience. So much could be done in this area as has been stated within here for the last few years. We'll never agree on music in this forum, but whatever music is played, needs to have variety for all age groups over the course of the season, and can't always be the 110. And for the love, dump this "stand for defense" nonsense in favor of something more exciting. Maybe the first Ohio made Three, and get a sponsor for that, and coupons rain from the rafters after that first made Three. I actually like the idea of changing the presentation of the colors. Don't ditch it altogether, but instead, do it FIRST. Present the colors, sign the Anthem, allow the colors to depart the floor. Ask everyone to remain standing, cut the lights, play a highlight video, and do player intros. Then play something - the same thing every single game - that pumps up the crowd. Not the 110, and something that leans more toward the students and young alumni. I've said for at least 3 years that the staff at Ohio could learn a bunch by going to take in a gameday experience at UD, UC, Xavier, Butler....etc. Steal ideas from what they do. Like Alan, I hope they change how they approach gameday to go along with the new scoreboard. Otherwise, it's just a fancy decoration in The Convo. What happened to “let’s get ready to rumble”? Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/19/2018 3:43:15 PM  Perfect example, and works great to me. Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,306 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/19/2018 3:57:38 PM  The better Ohio Bobcat wrote: OU_Country wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Recovering Journalist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: I guess you haven't been in the Convo for a game lately. The vast majority of people attending the games are not college-aged kids. So doing nothing to accommodate or attract them is the right answer? Brilliant. No one said "do nothing." Here are several things that might attract not only students but more local fans. 1) Light the Convo up on game night. You can drive by the building at 7:00 on a game night and not even know a game is scheduled that night. 2) Let students in the front door instead of making them walk all the way around back. 3) Either get it together with the Ozone or open that seating to anyone who wants to sit there. Right now, it isn't working. 4) Hire/put someone in place who understands game flow as it relates to music played when time stops. We've had so many great runs killed because it was time to go to a stupid promo on the court. 5) I'm ducking on this one. Get rid of the presentation of the colors. It's a somber moment that kills whatever pregame excitement has been generated (sorry Lou). Give me a bit more time and I can come up with five more. To the point though, I new scoreboard with none of these things happening is going to change a thing. AGREED on 1, and 2. Make it easy to come to a game. Make it known all day from sun up until the game is over. Maybe even the day before. And 4 & 5 could in a way be combined into one thought: Gameday flow and Gameday experience. So much could be done in this area as has been stated within here for the last few years. We'll never agree on music in this forum, but whatever music is played, needs to have variety for all age groups over the course of the season, and can't always be the 110. And for the love, dump this "stand for defense" nonsense in favor of something more exciting. Maybe the first Ohio made Three, and get a sponsor for that, and coupons rain from the rafters after that first made Three. I actually like the idea of changing the presentation of the colors. Don't ditch it altogether, but instead, do it FIRST. Present the colors, sign the Anthem, allow the colors to depart the floor. Ask everyone to remain standing, cut the lights, play a highlight video, and do player intros. Then play something - the same thing every single game - that pumps up the crowd. Not the 110, and something that leans more toward the students and young alumni. I've said for at least 3 years that the staff at Ohio could learn a bunch by going to take in a gameday experience at UD, UC, Xavier, Butler....etc. Steal ideas from what they do. Like Alan, I hope they change how they approach gameday to go along with the new scoreboard. Otherwise, it's just a fancy decoration in The Convo. What happened to “let’s get ready to rumble”? Oh god please no. it was embarrassing how long we kept that alive. Back to Top longtiimelurker General User Member Since: 2/2/2017 Post Count: 587 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/19/2018 5:00:23 PM  The better Ohio Bobcat wrote: Alan Swank wrote: How did we survive when we had to keep each player's score and number of fouls in the printed program and had to pay attention to the game? Fans must have been really smart back then. Are you serious because if so that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I don't know, have you ever searched his previous posts? Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,118 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/19/2018 7:53:02 PM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: The better Ohio Bobcat wrote: OU_Country wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Recovering Journalist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: I guess you haven't been in the Convo for a game lately. The vast majority of people attending the games are not college-aged kids. So doing nothing to accommodate or attract them is the right answer? Brilliant. No one said "do nothing." Here are several things that might attract not only students but more local fans. 1) Light the Convo up on game night. You can drive by the building at 7:00 on a game night and not even know a game is scheduled that night. 2) Let students in the front door instead of making them walk all the way around back. 3) Either get it together with the Ozone or open that seating to anyone who wants to sit there. Right now, it isn't working. 4) Hire/put someone in place who understands game flow as it relates to music played when time stops. We've had so many great runs killed because it was time to go to a stupid promo on the court. 5) I'm ducking on this one. Get rid of the presentation of the colors. It's a somber moment that kills whatever pregame excitement has been generated (sorry Lou). Give me a bit more time and I can come up with five more. To the point though, I new scoreboard with none of these things happening is going to change a thing. AGREED on 1, and 2. Make it easy to come to a game. Make it known all day from sun up until the game is over. Maybe even the day before. And 4 & 5 could in a way be combined into one thought: Gameday flow and Gameday experience. So much could be done in this area as has been stated within here for the last few years. We'll never agree on music in this forum, but whatever music is played, needs to have variety for all age groups over the course of the season, and can't always be the 110. And for the love, dump this "stand for defense" nonsense in favor of something more exciting. Maybe the first Ohio made Three, and get a sponsor for that, and coupons rain from the rafters after that first made Three. I actually like the idea of changing the presentation of the colors. Don't ditch it altogether, but instead, do it FIRST. Present the colors, sign the Anthem, allow the colors to depart the floor. Ask everyone to remain standing, cut the lights, play a highlight video, and do player intros. Then play something - the same thing every single game - that pumps up the crowd. Not the 110, and something that leans more toward the students and young alumni. I've said for at least 3 years that the staff at Ohio could learn a bunch by going to take in a gameday experience at UD, UC, Xavier, Butler....etc. Steal ideas from what they do. Like Alan, I hope they change how they approach gameday to go along with the new scoreboard. Otherwise, it's just a fancy decoration in The Convo. What happened to “let’s get ready to rumble”? Oh god please no. it was embarrassing how long we kept that alive. It was really cool when the O Zone was jumping around going nuts as it played. It's lame when they sit on their hands. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,504 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/20/2018 6:42:44 AM  OU_Country wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Recovering Journalist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: I guess you haven't been in the Convo for a game lately. The vast majority of people attending the games are not college-aged kids. So doing nothing to accommodate or attract them is the right answer? Brilliant. No one said "do nothing." Here are several things that might attract not only students but more local fans. 1) Light the Convo up on game night. You can drive by the building at 7:00 on a game night and not even know a game is scheduled that night. 2) Let students in the front door instead of making them walk all the way around back. 3) Either get it together with the Ozone or open that seating to anyone who wants to sit there. Right now, it isn't working. 4) Hire/put someone in place who understands game flow as it relates to music played when time stops. We've had so many great runs killed because it was time to go to a stupid promo on the court. 5) I'm ducking on this one. Get rid of the presentation of the colors. It's a somber moment that kills whatever pregame excitement has been generated (sorry Lou). Give me a bit more time and I can come up with five more. To the point though, I new scoreboard with none of these things happening is going to change a thing. AGREED on 1, and 2. Make it easy to come to a game. Make it known all day from sun up until the game is over. Maybe even the day before. And 4 & 5 could in a way be combined into one thought: Gameday flow and Gameday experience. So much could be done in this area as has been stated within here for the last few years. We'll never agree on music in this forum, but whatever music is played, needs to have variety for all age groups over the course of the season, and can't always be the 110. And for the love, dump this "stand for defense" nonsense in favor of something more exciting. Maybe the first Ohio made Three, and get a sponsor for that, and coupons rain from the rafters after that first made Three. I actually like the idea of changing the presentation of the colors. Don't ditch it altogether, but instead, do it FIRST. Present the colors, sign the Anthem, allow the colors to depart the floor. Ask everyone to remain standing, cut the lights, play a highlight video, and do player intros. Then play something - the same thing every single game - that pumps up the crowd. Not the 110, and something that leans more toward the students and young alumni. I've said for at least 3 years that the staff at Ohio could learn a bunch by going to take in a gameday experience at UD, UC, Xavier, Butler....etc. Steal ideas from what they do. Like Alan, I hope they change how they approach gameday to go along with the new scoreboard. Otherwise, it's just a fancy decoration in The Convo. 1.My wife and I got to go men's BB season opener last year. It was almost like it was a secret. Around here every school (grammar,high and college) have large digital message boards announcing everything going on. How about installing on of those in front of the Convo,and other locations around campus for that matter. Around here they also sell advertising. 2.We walked past the Convo when there was a women's BB game or a volleyball game. Again you'd never know it. The place was not only dark,but looked empty. Why not light it up ? If you use high quality LED's it would be extremely cost effective. You could also get a "light package" that changes lighting patterns. 3.I understand the concept of moving the presentation of colors to before player introductions. That could open up a whole can of worms about the players not being on the floor for that and the National Anthem. It also doesn't seem to be a "downer" for football games. I think they could just go from the National Anthem into something like "lets get ready to rumble". Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,624 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/20/2018 9:54:21 PM  I have a client who coached in the Horizon league and I attended many games at YSU. They have the kind of scoreboard that some of you think is necessary. https://www.google.com/search?q=beeghly+center&ie=UTF-8&o... what? They barely have 1k in the stands and they suck. Not worth the coin. Back to Top Bleed Green & White General User Member Since: 12/27/2004 Location: Driving on US 33 Post Count: 164 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/22/2018 5:00:43 PM  giacomo wrote: I have a client who coached in the Horizon league and I attended many games at YSU. They have the kind of scoreboard that some of you think is necessary. https://www.google.com/search?q=beeghly+center&ie=UTF-8&o... what? They barely have 1k in the stands and they suck. Not worth the coin. It’s not that a scoreboard will magically solve attendance woes, or make play better, but it’s a piece. If I remember correctly the current scoreboards were paid for by Pepsi, so they were ‘free’ and if we go another 15 years or so, all the pixels end up being a pretty good bargain. Alan, while not wanting to spend the money, he makes some good points about there being a variety of things to improve the game day experience, not just one. The fact is, today it’s way easier to watch & follow the bobcats without stepping foot in the Convo. If we don’t make improvements, it’ll only be easier for me to not drive 2 hours round trip every game and save money (spend it elsewhere). With all the changes over the last few years (floor & table seats, endless on court promos, increases in required donations and ticket prices), this is another that no doubt can be chalked up to increasing revenue. Sure, I don’t need the instrument panel or radio to work in my car but it’s pretty nice to know some things and be entertained. Oh and my wife really, really appreciates those too. "we are bound to win the fray..." Don't let anyone block your pride. BSC '06 Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,699 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/27/2018 9:07:42 AM  I just wish we could have found a scoreboard for $1,999,000 and spent the 1k savings on new hand dryers. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top OUs LONG Driver General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Copley, OH Post Count: 653 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/27/2018 9:54:45 AM  Andrew Ruck wrote: I just wish we could have found a scoreboard for $1,999,000 and spent the 1k savings on new hand dryers. Speaking of hand dryers....I attended a wedding reception in the DC area about a month ago and the hand dryers blew my mind. Hold on to your shorts gents....hand dryers were built into the faucets, which were sort of a T shape. That's right, wash your hands in the center then simply spread your hands apart slightly and the dryer kicks on. No dripping hands making for a wet floor as you walk to the nearby wall. Genius. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,504 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/27/2018 10:00:45 AM  OUs LONG Driver wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: I just wish we could have found a scoreboard for $1,999,000 and spent the 1k savings on new hand dryers. Speaking of hand dryers....I attended a wedding reception in the DC area about a month ago and the hand dryers blew my mind. Hold on to your shorts gents....hand dryers were built into the faucets, which were sort of a T shape. That's right, wash your hands in the center then simply spread your hands apart slightly and the dryer kicks on. No dripping hands making for a wet floor as you walk to the nearby wall. Genius. My problem with the new hand dryers is that the nozzle doesn't rotate,so there's no way to dry your face. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,699 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/27/2018 10:08:59 AM  rpbobcat wrote: My problem with the new hand dryers is that the nozzle doesn't rotate,so there's no way to dry your face. Kids these days just don't see the value in a good face dry. It's sad, really. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,552 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/27/2018 10:36:01 AM  OUs LONG Driver wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: I just wish we could have found a scoreboard for $1,999,000 and spent the 1k savings on new hand dryers. Speaking of hand dryers....I attended a wedding reception in the DC area about a month ago and the hand dryers blew my mind. Hold on to your shorts gents....hand dryers were built into the faucets, which were sort of a T shape. That's right, wash your hands in the center then simply spread your hands apart slightly and the dryer kicks on. No dripping hands making for a wet floor as you walk to the nearby wall. Genius. That knocked my socks off. We may need to take out a home equity line on the Convo to afford those, but it'd be worth it. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,624 Status: Offline     RE: Convo scoreboard    Posted: 7/27/2018 4:32:50 PM  Not many things are worth "it". Certainly not hand dryers in the restroom. Some are easily amused and parted with their money. 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