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Even if he's just bridging the gap for the last minute before a media timeout to give others a longer break, play him. We have a 6'8'' decently athletic scholarship player in the middle of his second year in the program. It's time to see what he can do. Play him. Unfortunately, I didn't hear Saul mention his name during the 'what now' segment of the coaches show. Back to Top FearLeon General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 4,147 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/19/2017 8:07:02 PM  shabamon wrote: Even if it's for just five minutes a game. Even if he's just bridging the gap for the last minute before a media timeout to give others a longer break, play him. We have a 6'8'' decently athletic scholarship player in the middle of his second year in the program. It's time to see what he can do. Play him. Unfortunately, I didn't hear Saul mention his name during the 'what now' segment of the coaches show. If the coaches believed Ellis could help, don't you think we would have seen some minutes out of him by now...even before Campbell injury? Not sure why so many are wanting to see him play. Obviously, he hasn't panned out. #BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,555 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/19/2017 8:09:45 PM  I never realized FearLeon was a class of 71 guy until recently. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top FearLeon General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 4,147 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/19/2017 8:47:17 PM  The Optimist wrote: I never realized FearLeon was a class of 71 guy until recently. Ha...not class of '71...but that's a good one. I'm just being a realist. I'm sure there is a reason why this guy only sees time when we are up 30 against Urbana. Maybe I'm dead wrong. Maybe Saul will unleash him come MAC Tourney time. This way no one has any scout tape on him. That's sarcasm there. But up to this point, he's obviously not ready. Just speaking the truth from what we observe from the outside. I'm sure someone closer to the program on this board can fill us in on when EDoz will be ready to play meaningful minutes in his career. #BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/19/2017 9:44:42 PM  We should see what he can do. Hopefully we get a lead and can give him some minutes. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top Chicken George General User Member Since: 1/2/2005 Post Count: 762 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/19/2017 10:04:01 PM  Totally not fair to Ellis with such a small sample size, but if what we're seeing during the very limited time he plays in games is any indication of what the coaches are seeing in practice daily---then he's not getting in for a reason. Back to Top OhioBobcat General User Member Since: 1/20/2006 Post Count: 1,551 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/20/2017 9:23:58 AM  Chicken George wrote: Totally not fair to Ellis with such a small sample size, but if what we're seeing during the very limited time he plays in games is any indication of what the coaches are seeing in practice daily---then he's not getting in for a reason. This Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/20/2017 9:54:22 AM  Chicken George wrote: Totally not fair to Ellis with such a small sample size, but if what we're seeing during the very limited time he plays in games is any indication of what the coaches are seeing in practice daily---then he's not getting in for a reason. Yep. Not a knock against Ellis but I live in the county he played his high school career and when he signed with us I had never heard of him. That very well may be on me since his school is in a different conference than our high school but I knew all about Mo Pearson before he signed with us. I've always viewed him as a project. But you never know. This might be his opportunity to get some minutes on occasion. Back to Top 100%Cat General User Member Since: 1/17/2013 Post Count: 2,492 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/20/2017 10:45:50 AM  I do not miss a minute of home games when I'm in attendance. I've seen Ellis come in at mop-up time in a few games this year. I see a raw, freak of an athlete. Very lanky, very long, great ups. I haven't seen a real solid looking shot or offensive game. For what it's worth, he seems to be the first bench guy to enter when we secure a big lead. I think he's going to need to develop a little further before he sees serious PT. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/20/2017 12:18:01 PM  100%Cat wrote: I do not miss a minute of home games when I'm in attendance. I've seen Ellis come in at mop-up time in a few games this year. I see a raw, freak of an athlete. Very lanky, very long, great ups. I haven't seen a real solid looking shot or offensive game. For what it's worth, he seems to be the first bench guy to enter when we secure a big lead. I think he's going to need to develop a little further before he sees serious PT. My thought would be, and I don't know the answer to this: Can he defend and rebound well enough to spell guys for 5-8 minutes a game? If he can, I'm guessing we'll see more of him. Back to Top Danny's Knee General User Member Since: 11/30/2005 Post Count: 605 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/21/2017 9:46:38 AM  Dozier is listed at 6'8" but looks to be about 6'4" by the way he slouches on the court .. He is sooooooo timid when brought into a game .. It seems as though we have several players on scholarship that are not capapble of playing at the D1 MAC level .. BANG ? check out my avatar, it's "REALLY DO ORIGINAL" !!!! Back to Top FearLeon General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 4,147 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/21/2017 10:38:37 AM  Danny's Knee wrote: Dozier is listed at 6'8" but looks to be about 6'4" by the way he slouches on the court .. He is sooooooo timid when brought into a game .. It seems as though we have several players on scholarship that are not capapble of playing at the D1 MAC level .. BANG ? +1 ^^^ Too many people on this board are afraid to say what they truly see when it comes to evaluating players up to this point in their careers. D-Knee is correct....we have too many scholarship players sitting on the bench that Saul can't even consider throwing out there for even 2 meaningful minutes. I'll say it again....if EDoz could play 5 meaningful minutes per game, don't you think we would have seen it by now....before TC injury? I'm pretty sure Saul would have done it by now if he believed EDoz was ready. #BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT Back to Top FearLeon General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 4,147 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/21/2017 10:40:10 AM  Last Edited: 1/21/2017 10:40:26 AM by FearLeon #BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/21/2017 12:44:52 PM  FearLeon wrote: Too many people on this board are afraid to say what they truly see when it comes to evaluating players up to this point in their careers. Or..at least in other sports..may see what they want to see instead of what is really there. #iwillnowbekicked Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top FearLeon General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 4,147 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/21/2017 6:39:53 PM  3 games without Campbell.......0 minutes for Dozier. Don't see that changing the rest of the season. How much more evidence do people need to see that he won't be a factor this season and was never going to be? The numbers don't lie. Last Edited: 1/21/2017 6:56:55 PM by FearLeon #BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT Back to Top Danny's Knee General User Member Since: 11/30/2005 Post Count: 605 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/21/2017 7:47:31 PM  he'll never play more than mop up role minutes .. BANG !! .. Oh BABY what a BIG TIME non factor !! i'd rather see jaylin mc donald get minutes check out my avatar, it's "REALLY DO ORIGINAL" !!!! Back to Top greencat General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 2,077 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/22/2017 2:25:23 AM  What happens when your schollies are taken up by guys who can't play? You miss out on transfers from BIG d-1 programs such as JaCorey Williams who helped mid-major MTSU beat Michigan State in the big dance or Jabari McGhee at WKU who had 14 rebounds against Ohio not long ago. Want to miss out on the next KK? It's going to happen. Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/22/2017 7:31:34 AM  greencat wrote: What happens when your schollies are taken up by guys who can't play? You miss out on transfers from BIG d-1 programs such as JaCorey Williams who helped mid-major MTSU beat Michigan State in the big dance or Jabari McGhee at WKU who had 14 rebounds against Ohio not long ago. Want to miss out on the next KK? It's going to happen. We should send him to JUCO, he will keep falling behind. It is ultimately up to him, but since he redshirted, he could go to a JUCO and play his sophomore year. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,501 Status: Online     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/22/2017 1:32:55 PM  allen wrote: greencat wrote: What happens when your schollies are taken up by guys who can't play? You miss out on transfers from BIG d-1 programs such as JaCorey Williams who helped mid-major MTSU beat Michigan State in the big dance or Jabari McGhee at WKU who had 14 rebounds against Ohio not long ago. Want to miss out on the next KK? It's going to happen. We should send him to JUCO, he will keep falling behind. It is ultimately up to him, but since he redshirted, he could go to a JUCO and play his sophomore year. It's not a farm system, you don't "send" players down. As another poster commented, just stop Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/22/2017 4:53:39 PM  It happens, ultimately it is the kids decision. Solich has sent football players to Fort Scott, who did not qualify. Gary Waters at CSU sends players elsewhere all the time. It is a poor precedent if it is used often, but if you have a talented player that can't get minutes, you can have a discussion with that player and put him in a position where he can go somewhere and play and work out his kinks. Some schools even have JV teams. http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/i... Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,501 Status: Online     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/22/2017 7:07:37 PM  allen wrote: It happens, ultimately it is the kids decision. Solich has sent football players to Fort Scott, who did not qualify. Gary Waters at CSU sends players elsewhere all the time. It is a poor precedent if it is used often, but if you have a talented player that can't get minutes, you can have a discussion with that player and put him in a position where he can go somewhere and play and work out his kinks. Some schools even have JV teams. http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/i... Players who did not qualify is not the same as a kid currently on the roster. Take a kids scholarship and you will get beat up on the recruiting trail and maybe a shot at National News for doing so. I wish Mr Dozier nothing but the best experience he can have and I hope he enjoys his time here as a Bobcat. You sir are the poster child for having an aptitude test before you are allowed access to a keyboard. Back to Top Danny's Knee General User Member Since: 11/30/2005 Post Count: 605 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/22/2017 7:09:28 PM  BANG !! .. Oh BABY what a BIG TIME hot topic !! check out my avatar, it's "REALLY DO ORIGINAL" !!!! Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/22/2017 7:44:12 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: allen wrote: It happens, ultimately it is the kids decision. Solich has sent football players to Fort Scott, who did not qualify. Gary Waters at CSU sends players elsewhere all the time. It is a poor precedent if it is used often, but if you have a talented player that can't get minutes, you can have a discussion with that player and put him in a position where he can go somewhere and play and work out his kinks. Some schools even have JV teams. http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/i... Players who did not qualify is not the same as a kid currently on the roster. Take a kids scholarship and you will get beat up on the recruiting trail and maybe a shot at National News for doing so. I wish Mr Dozier nothing but the best experience he can have and I hope he enjoys his time here as a Bobcat. You sir are the poster child for having an aptitude test before you are allowed access to a keyboard. What is so hard to understand that it is the kid's decision. Nobody said Yank his scholarship, even though coaches do that all the time. You need a reading comprehension class. READ and let go of all of our previous beefs or you will continue taking losses. We can take a GMAT or LSAT right now if it is that deep to you, inbox me. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top Danny's Knee General User Member Since: 11/30/2005 Post Count: 605 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/22/2017 8:36:34 PM  allen wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: allen wrote: It happens, ultimately it is the kids decision. Solich has sent football players to Fort Scott, who did not qualify. Gary Waters at CSU sends players elsewhere all the time. It is a poor precedent if it is used often, but if you have a talented player that can't get minutes, you can have a discussion with that player and put him in a position where he can go somewhere and play and work out his kinks. Some schools even have JV teams. http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/i... Players who did not qualify is not the same as a kid currently on the roster. Take a kids scholarship and you will get beat up on the recruiting trail and maybe a shot at National News for doing so. I wish Mr Dozier nothing but the best experience he can have and I hope he enjoys his time here as a Bobcat. You sir are the poster child for having an aptitude test before you are allowed access to a keyboard. What is so hard to understand that it is the kid's decision. Nobody said Yank his scholarship, even though coaches do that all the time. You need a reading comprehension class. READ and let go of all of our previous beefs or you will continue taking losses. We can take a GMAT or LSAT right now if it is that deep to you, inbox me. BANG !! .. Oh BABY what a BIG TIME opportunity to implement more TESTING !! check out my avatar, it's "REALLY DO ORIGINAL" !!!! Back to Top GraffZ06 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Dayton, OH Post Count: 1,924 Status: Offline     RE: Play Ellis Dozier    Posted: 1/22/2017 8:50:25 PM  FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PUT BRIDGEWATER IN! Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 25  of 50 Posts Jump to Page:   1 | 2    Next > View Other 'Ohio Basketball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 212 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 210 Guests 2 Registered Users:   BillyTheCat, OUbobcat9092 There are no other users looking at this page.

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