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There is no reason our three "big men" are jacking up threes. And tell Stevie he's no DJ. Cut the 25-footer crap. Stevie should only shoot threes when his toes are right behind the line and he's wide open. I said a couple of years ago that Stevie isn't a 27-32 minute guy. Really liked his energy coming off the bench behind DJ. He's going to have to really step up if this team wants to do some damage. #BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT Back to Top 100%Cat General User Member Since: 1/17/2013 Post Count: 2,491 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 7:25:49 AM  I'm not surprised, and I guess I'm also not that alarmed like some of you. FGCU is a good team, projected to be an NCAA tourney team with a pair of experienced and talented senior guards. We went into a hostile environment with two freshmen and a soph center with very limited experience, expecting them all to play big minutes and roles. Early in the year in that situation, I expected a tough night and I do not think it's a sign of bad things to come. We lost to a good team on the road, get over it and get ready for the next one. Back to Top Pete Chouteau General User Member Since: 11/17/2004 Location: Nowinsky Country Post Count: 1,611 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 8:04:05 AM  Sincere props to whatever it is FGCU is doing to pack that house on a Wednesday in November. The atmosphere seemed to be in late season form. Those who think we need to put a leash on the bigs getting out and shooting threes have not been listening to what our coach says and/or don't understand the tenets of #SaulBall. Get on board, because you're going to keep seeing it. If Tony Campbell wasn't supposed to be in that spot taking the first three threes that he missed, he wouldn't have been in the game to make the fourth. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 8:21:20 AM  Pete Chouteau wrote: Sincere props to whatever it is FGCU is doing to pack that house on a Wednesday in November. The atmosphere seemed to be in late season form. Those who think we need to put a leash on the bigs getting out and shooting threes have not been listening to what our coach says and/or don't understand the tenets of #SaulBall. Get on board, because you're going to keep seeing it. If Tony Campbell wasn't supposed to be in that spot taking the first three threes that he missed, he wouldn't have been in the game to make the fourth. I would add that the bigs were the only ones that were actually square to the basket when they shot the threes. There should never ever be an off-balance or contested three taken when there is still 20 seconds left on the shot clock. And our ball movement was so slow that their bigs were able to keep our bigs from catching the ball anywhere near the basket. The man receiving the pass should know where his teammates are before the ball gets to him. We aren't very hard to defend when we play like we did last night. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,920 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 9:03:36 AM  Didn't catch the game last night, but from what I've read it just looks like the offense wasn't doing what it's designed to do. It's Game 2 guys, 3 if you count Marietta. It's a process that might take a while. I don't think Saul ever said he was gonna come in here a be a magician and take us to the Final Four from Day One. Patience is a virtue this year. Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,706 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 9:24:45 AM  I understand what you are saying Van as The concept of off balance vs set and ready to shoot is what I perceive you are getting at. I have seen the saying "square to shoot" or "square the feet" many times on a few boards recently. Lets put that to rest. Anyone who wants to understand shooting should view this as if they were a student of the game. It does change how you watch guys taking shots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqjKTDhvPjQ&list=PLwTAc-h... Bonus points to anyone who can name the gym and why it is famous. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 9:27:37 AM  GoCats105 wrote: Didn't catch the game last night, but from what I've read it just looks like the offense wasn't doing what it's designed to do. It's Game 2 guys, 3 if you count Marietta. It's a process that might take a while. I don't think Saul ever said he was gonna come in here a be a magician and take us to the Final Four from Day One. Patience is a virtue this year. I don't think anyone is saying the season is a lost cause. It was just a really bad game mentally by us. I agree that it is a process. Nick Kellogg's presence was sorely missed last night and I don't mean his shooting. We need someone to step into his leadership role. FGCU got it from their Seniors. We get down by 10 and toss up a horrible off-balance contested three early in the shot clock. Their hobbled Senior PG then drives and dishes for a wide open three and that's all she wrote. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 9:30:37 AM  bornacatfan wrote: I understand what you are saying Van as The concept of off balance vs set and ready to shoot is what I perceive you are getting at. That is what I'm trying to say. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 9:38:02 AM  FearLeon wrote: lovebobcat wrote: Saul, first order of business: Establish a rule that no one taller than 6'3" can shoot a three-pointer. There is no reason our three "big men" are jacking up threes. And tell Stevie he's no DJ. Cut the 25-footer crap. Stevie should only shoot threes when his toes are right behind the line and he's wide open. I said a couple of years ago that Stevie isn't a 27-32 minute guy. Really liked his energy coming off the bench behind DJ. He's going to have to really step up if this team wants to do some damage. His game concerned me a little last night, but I'm generally with those in the it's early, and it's a work in progress camps. Khari has only practiced for a couple weeks, and we've not yet even seen Thomas, who was expected to be a key veteran role player. Back to Top boydhallbobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 277 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 9:41:01 AM  3 games in (including Marietta). No need to panic yet, but we HAVE to make adjustments. WAYYYYY too much 1-1 street ball going on out there. We need to set up our offense. Ndour needs to get involved. I like the idea of posting him up lower and getting it to him quicker. He has a really hard time creating his own shot from anywhere outside of 8 feet. Bigs chucking up 3's shows laziness to me. They don't want to get in there and mix it up with other bigs and just want to throw it up from beyond the perimeter. I still trust in Saul. I'm not expecting miracles this season, but I'm really excited to see what types of recruits he brings in. I think this is where he'll shine as a coach. Back to Top A-townBound General User Member Since: 3/31/2012 Location: Georgetown, KY Post Count: 663 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 9:51:47 AM  bornacatfan wrote: Bonus points to anyone who can name the gym and why it is famous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier_Gym Bleed Green and GO OHIO!! Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,920 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 10:19:21 AM  bornacatfan wrote: I understand what you are saying Van as The concept of off balance vs set and ready to shoot is what I perceive you are getting at. I have seen the saying "square to shoot" or "square the feet" many times on a few boards recently. Lets put that to rest. Anyone who wants to understand shooting should view this as if they were a student of the game. It does change how you watch guys taking shots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqjKTDhvPjQ&list=PLwTAc-h... Bonus points to anyone who can name the gym and why it is famous. Interesting point. The only shooter I can remember who squares his feet almost all the time, or maybe it's just his form that's so pure that makes it look that way, is Ray Allen. He has the most fluid motion I've ever seen. Back to Top Casper71 General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Post Count: 2,895 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 10:20:26 AM  Guys, we all know that in the MAC only March really counts. Let's just chalk this one up as the one that lost our at large bid and get over it! We sucked big time. Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,118 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 10:27:02 AM  Casper71 wrote: Guys, we all know that in the MAC only March really counts. Let's just chalk this one up as the one that lost our at large bid and get over it! We sucked big time. Yep, we could go 30-1 the rest of the way, have a top 25 RPI, and the selection committee would still point to that mid-November loss to one of the top teams in its respective conference. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 10:58:28 AM  Have no idea about the gym, but I'll guess Muncie Central. ;-) Thanks for posting the video on the squaring up myth. It gave me some personal pointers. Never too old to learn. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,706 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 11:19:59 AM  Muncie Central is so much bigger. This gym is famous. Still play one game a year there with all the outgoing seniors. Usually a show and tix are few and hard to come by Oden, COnley, harangody, and a number of Indiana all stars and college stars played their last game in Indiana there. Good to know the old dogs is still open to new tricks. Sometime when I am in Athens I have no preblem getting you in shorts and soing a shooting work out (abbreviated and slowed down of course) to make you a star in the sunday am game never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,920 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 11:31:33 AM  bornacatfan wrote: Muncie Central is so much bigger. This gym is famous. Still play one game a year there with all the outgoing seniors. Usually a show and tix are few and hard to come by Oden, COnley, harangody, and a number of Indiana all stars and college stars played their last game in Indiana there. That would be a bucket list item to go see a game actually played there. That's incredible they still do that. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,047 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 12:02:52 PM  FearLeon wrote: 4 Bean technical FTs to pull within 10 and then Stevie jacks up an off-balance 25 footer. #TurningPoint Completely agree. It also led to a transition opportunity for FGCU. You just don't expect to see a senior PG do that. It seemed to take the wind out of our sails. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,047 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 12:06:26 PM  bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote: lovebobcat wrote: Saul, first order of business: Establish a rule that no one taller than 6'3" can shoot a three-pointer. There is no reason our three "big men" are jacking up threes. And tell Stevie he's no DJ. Cut the 25-footer crap. Stevie should only shoot threes when his toes are right behind the line and he's wide open. Weird, no one was complaining about the shots when they were going in against Appy State. Eliminate the bad shots, shoot the wide open ones. I have no problem with that. Campbell has a nice looking stroke, I don't mind him shooting the occasional open look. I agree with bigtilly on this. Our bigs need to be shooting perimeter shots if it comes in the flow of the offense. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,047 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 12:14:07 PM  boydhallbobcat wrote: 3 games in (including Marietta). No need to panic yet, but we HAVE to make adjustments. WAYYYYY too much 1-1 street ball going on out there. We need to set up our offense. Ndour needs to get involved. I like the idea of posting him up lower and getting it to him quicker. He has a really hard time creating his own shot from anywhere outside of 8 feet. Bigs chucking up 3's shows laziness to me. They don't want to get in there and mix it up with other bigs and just want to throw it up from beyond the perimeter. I still trust in Saul. I'm not expecting miracles this season, but I'm really excited to see what types of recruits he brings in. I think this is where he'll shine as a coach. I agree we need to share the ball more and take better shots, but in a motion offense, I don't think you "set up the offense" as if you're running set plays. The success of the motion offense comes from players making right decisions on the floor depending on what the defense is doing. Back to Top boydhallbobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 277 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 12:42:14 PM  Jeff McKinney wrote: boydhallbobcat wrote: 3 games in (including Marietta). No need to panic yet, but we HAVE to make adjustments. WAYYYYY too much 1-1 street ball going on out there. We need to set up our offense. Ndour needs to get involved. I like the idea of posting him up lower and getting it to him quicker. He has a really hard time creating his own shot from anywhere outside of 8 feet. Bigs chucking up 3's shows laziness to me. They don't want to get in there and mix it up with other bigs and just want to throw it up from beyond the perimeter. I still trust in Saul. I'm not expecting miracles this season, but I'm really excited to see what types of recruits he brings in. I think this is where he'll shine as a coach. I agree we need to share the ball more and take better shots, but in a motion offense, I don't think you "set up the offense" as if you're running set plays. The success of the motion offense comes from players making right decisions on the floor depending on what the defense is doing. Well..I guess what I meant by "set up the offense" is to get guys to move without the ball. There is way too much standing around watching. 5 assists last night? Stevie didn't even have one. We've got to move.. We look lazy right now. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 12:59:02 PM  bornacatfan wrote: Muncie Central is so much bigger. This gym is famous. Still play one game a year there with all the outgoing seniors. Usually a show and tix are few and hard to come by Oden, COnley, harangody, and a number of Indiana all stars and college stars played their last game in Indiana there. Good to know the old dogs is still open to new tricks. Sometime when I am in Athens I have no preblem getting you in shorts and soing a shooting work out (abbreviated and slowed down of course) to make you a star in the sunday am game Sounds like a good deal -- but it's Saturday AM game that I'm shooting for (pardon the bad pun). Also, play Tuesday and Thursday evenings once we get back to 7:00 p.m. starts, right now it's like 9:00 p.m., which is just too late for me to make a regular appearance. Darm AMS kids think they own the gym or something. ;-) Your offer also means you are getting better, which is very good news! :-) The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top cbarber357 General User Member Since: 9/9/2012 Location: Pickerington, OH Post Count: 744 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 1:10:56 PM  I don't know who said it, but somebody somewhere on here said Bernard Thompson could not score... Back to Top D.A. General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Georgetown, ME Post Count: 1,174 Status: Offline     RE: Official Game 2 Thread: Florida Gulf Coast    Posted: 11/20/2014 2:50:27 PM  Sincere question here from a basketball novice: through the first three games, I haven't really seen a significant difference in our zone regarding ball movement/screens/etc in the Bo Ryan template that I expected. Am I just stupid and not nuanced enough to see the change that is actually present, or am I correct in my interpretation that we have yet to see a significant implementation of a new scheme? And thanks in advance for no personal attacks on my BB IQ. The Few, The Proud, The Bobcats! And for the record, I hate tOSU, and Ricordati and Torgerson are DB's. "This isn't just another walkover from the MAC." 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