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OhioAlum
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  Message Not Read  What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 9:10:08 PM 
Sorry this isn't aimed at everyone but come on people... the lack of outrage on this board is sad. That was a horrible loss, especially the way it happened. To those who replied in the open letter to Coach Solich and TT thread, I agree that without their efforts, especially Frank, we wouldn't even be in a situation where we could be pissed about dropping from the rankings. I mean that unto itself is amazing for Bobcat football. And yes we still have a shot at a great record and perhaps one of the best years ever at the school. But why settle with just being happy at that? We had a once in a lifetime chance at a truly magical year. One that with upcoming changes to the BCS probably may never happen again.

The bottom line is that a somewhat questionable decision was made to take one more shot at a TD instead kicking a gimme and going to OT.  (I am not a coach and I don't have a playbook so I can't fully second guess but as I said in the stands in Oxford, I kick there 1000 times.) TT then makes a huge mental error in not getting rid of it. A terrible decision. I am beyond upset and all of you should be too. That doesn't take away from the fact that without Frank we aren't in this situation and without TT, probably don't even get down the field. At the same time, show from passion people!

I have heard many of you b#$ch and moan for years about tOSU on this board. If this happened to them, their fans would be burning down Columbus. I am not saying that is the right thing to do, nor do I want the truly fanatical approach that Buckeye fans have. I am just angry that we, as Bobcat fans, can't learn to expect more, take part in more and give more. We have had great crowds this year and recently yes but not at the level of commitment of those at other schools. I mean they are giving away free tickets to BSU and Kent for crying out loud. We were a top 25 team. Do you think Texas does that?

I am prOUd of our school and all that Coach Solich, his staff and players, and the athletic department folks have done to bring Ohio football to the level that it is. Horrible decisions happen, as do bad losses. I am just mad that we haven't gotten past our simply "happy to be not horrible" mentality as a fan base. Personally, I am sick as to what might have been. Sorry had to vent.


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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 9:18:50 PM 
The free tickets are to away games, not games at Ohio....


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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 9:21:44 PM 
I know the tickets are for away games. How many free tickets did Texas give out for its Big 12 road schedule or any other of the Top 25 schools?

Last Edited: 10/28/2012 9:21:56 PM by OhioAlum

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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 9:26:16 PM 
They were giving away tickets for this Thursday's home game, as well.
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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 9:38:35 PM 
We just blew a huge opportunity. We may have not remained undefeated all season, but should  have not lost to Miami.

I think I saw one poster say it was good we aren't in the top 25 in more. I wonder how much these people really want the program to succeed. 

Fans should be very disappointed the next couple of weeks. Hopefully the team won't and can still manage a 1 loss season.
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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 9:56:52 PM 
What should have been said in the huddle before the snap was, Tyler, try and get it in the endzone and if no one is open, throw it away.  Even if you get a penalty for intentional grounding, we are still close enough for a FG.  Let's beat their ass in OT!!

Now, I don't know exactly what was said and maybe that is what Frank told him, the fact is we could have still won that game.  I am still upset and will be until Thursday when we win again.  But, I keep telling myself and all you should too if you are not already, shoot we are 7-1 with a Bowl Bid already.  Let's go Bobcats!!!
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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 10:04:38 PM 
This isn't a "happy to be horrible" mentality, as you put it.  This is showing a level of maturity that you'll never find at a Big Tedozen school, or a Big Twelv school or an SEC school.  As you said, going for a TD was "questionable" -- which means it could've been right or it could've been wrong.  Some (like me) think it was the right thing to do.  You're inside the ten, you've got nine seconds left -- time for one more play -- and you're on the road, which usually means go for a win first instead of OT.  Yes, it didn't work, but that doesn't make it a wrong call.  As for the execution, yes T2 made a really bad decision.  But figuratively hanging him from a goalpost -- which would happen at most of the AQ schools -- isn't the solution.  Like you, I was really pissed at his performance; my wife and son have told me they've never heard me carrying on like I did after last night's game.  But you know, he's 20 or 21, human and is entitled to make mistakes.  He's also our best chance for taking care of last year's unfinished business this year and even next.  I'm sure he's feeling worse about yesterday than we ever could, so why rip him a second a**hole here?  Would it do him any good?  I know it wouldn't do me any good.  So why be one of those friggin morons that show up on others' websites, sports talk shows or in the Dispatch?  I understand your need to vent.  But I think the posters on this site tend to vent in more constructive ways than publicly ripping players.  We're still in the MAC race; yesterday wasn't the end of everything.

As for giving away free tickets, why not?  If you're not selling them anyway, why not encourage people to show up for a mid-week night road game in November and a game the day after Thanksgiving that'll likely be in the snow?  If we have a hundred or so people show up because of it, great.  That may be ten percent of the crowd.  AQ schools don't give away tix because they don't have to -- they have a large enough alumni base and/or alumni who are more willing to travel to such games (of course, they don't play such games -- they play on Saturdays, generally).  I'd like to see them maybe use some of the allotment to send the 110 to the games, if for no other reason than to play in the stands.  That would be really cool.


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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 10:07:11 PM 
sounds like you might be more comfortable rooting for Marshall where ever win is followed by talks of playing for a National Championships and every loss is consumed with witch hunts on which coach to blame and fire (hint: its usually all the coaches).

The lack of histrionics on this board is not because of apathy or a lack of passion, in fact its the opposite. Most on here bleed green and are truly disappointed about losing to Fiami and not being ranked but we're just not ready to freak the eff out over 1 loss, as big as it is. The MAC title is still the goal and has always been the goal.

And saying we're not like Buckeye fans is the highest compliment you can give us, thank you. Those kinds of fans usually have no direct affiliation with the school and only ride the bandwagon because it makes them feel like winners too. That's why they get so mad when they lose, there's no other part of their life where they are winners. That ain't us.


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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 10:12:54 PM 

 OhioAlum - "Passion" - you nailed it.

I was with a dozen others who were all at their 1st Ohio football game in 3 decades (all either alums or parents of Alums who live near Oxford).

One, my brother and also alum, said after the last play - "That was unacceptable, just plain unacceptable". He nailed it.

That was one of the top blunders in the history of the program - Especially since it happened at Fiami........... 

 


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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 10:32:33 PM 
TheGreenFever wrote:
What should have been said in the huddle before the snap was, Tyler, try and get it in the endzone and if no one is open, throw it away.  Even if you get a penalty for intentional grounding, we are still close enough for a FG. 


Actually, don't they run clock on intentional grounding?  Pretty sure a grounding penalty would've meant game over.  Maybe I'm wrong, but the spirit of grounding is to make it as though the sack occured (same reason grounding in the endzone is a safety).


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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 10:36:00 PM 
TheGreenFever wrote:
What should have been said in the huddle before the snap was, Tyler, try and get it in the endzone and if no one is open, throw it away.  Even if you get a penalty for intentional grounding, we are still close enough for a FG.  Let's beat their ass in OT!!

Now, I don't know exactly what was said and maybe that is what Frank told him, the fact is we could have still won that game.  I am still upset and will be until Thursday when we win again.  But, I keep telling myself and all you should too if you are not already, shoot we are 7-1 with a Bowl Bid already.  Let's go Bobcats!!!


I don't think there was a huddle.  We were out of timeouts and T2 just ran up and clocked the ball.  The play was signalled in from the sideline. 


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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 10:48:51 PM 
Unacceptable is losing the remainder of OUr games......even a fiami loss and dropping out of the top 25 won't make me jump off the Richland  Avenue bridge.

Let's wait until the season is over before we start the unacceptable stuff....some of us are sounding like the people who fired Frank after a 9-3 season.
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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 11:09:46 PM 
Doc Bobcat wrote:
Unacceptable is losing the remainder of OUr games......even a fiami loss and dropping out of the top 25 won't make me jump off the Richland  Avenue bridge.

Let's wait until the season is over before we start the unacceptable stuff....some of us are sounding like the people who fired Frank after a 9-3 season.


"Unacceptable" is an objective statement based on the facts of the instance. Nobody said anything about firing anybody (at least not Frank).


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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 11:15:53 PM 
I just like a lot of people on here am disappointed by the outcome as well, but this could be a blessing in disguise. Beating Miami but losing to Kent? Sure that would stink but the excuse of Kent being a very strong team would still be available. But losing to a hated rival in which you dominated for six years, when you are ranked, and undefeated? This team better be spitting fire for the next four games. There were times when I wondered if the team was either sleep walking, or very distracted. Hopefully this will be what cranks up the intensity. EMU will be a good barometer for the rest of the season. If we smack them up and down the field? We might be back to OOC form. Close game? Worry some. Loss? Houston we have a problem.  Just trying to offer some optimistic perspective.  
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   Posted: 10/28/2012 11:39:04 PM 
What I'm going to miss is the hoopla talk of BCS possibilities, rankings, media buzz, etc..  Considering the BSC stuff was probably a pipe dream, this team still has every other goal out in front of them.  We can still get the buzz and ranking back with a flawless finish (4-0) and probably still get the exact same bowl game we would've got had we won Saturday.

Don't get me wrong, I'm as bumped as I've ever been as an OHIO fan, just trying to get back to even-keel as we start another work week.  But I must admit, the hype of being undefeated, ranked, etc... is what was making this all too fun.  Hate that we lost all that stuff and was hoping it would come down to @Kent State and Detriot.  Yet still, the realistic goals are all still there.

I'm trying guys...
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  Message Not Read  RE: What is wrong with you people
   Posted: 10/28/2012 11:54:29 PM 
I like the passion.  We all know what should have happened on that play; no need to further discuss.

No more talk of being ranked.  Let's take the games one at a time.  If we do that, we can still have a very fine season.

I'm waiting for, hopefully, two or three of OUr yOUng men to step up.  I can't point to anyone on the roster who has been really good, game after game.  I haven't attended a game yet this season so my 'tv camera' view certainly could mean that I'm missing rising stars.  But I want to see the next Keller or the next LaVon or the next Carrie.  I want to see some of our guys make their mark in an NFL-draft quality way.  A way that just tilts the game as you have to accOUnt for these guys on every play.  Wanna see some step forward game changers.  Some spark.

Player(s) like that will keep the fanbase locked in and still growing.


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   Posted: 10/29/2012 4:41:38 AM 
Regarding running one more play with 9 seconds left -- I think you could poll all 124 FBS football coaches, and maybe three or four would tell you they'd kick in that situation.  Maybe.  It could be zero.

Tettleton made a mistake, he knows it.  The guy has earned the right to make some mistakes.  I think a supportive fan base in this situation is better than an outraged one.

The top 25 rankings and BCS hoopla -- I don't know.  That was never what it was about for me personally.  If Ohio wins out, probably Miami drops another one to Kent and that would put the Bobcats in the MAC championship game.  Win there and it's back in the top 25, but more importantly, win there and you're 12-1 with a conference championship, and that is a great, great achievement.

But first -- beat EMU.  The best news is we only have to wait a few more days for the next game.
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   Posted: 10/29/2012 8:13:02 AM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
TheGreenFever wrote:
What should have been said in the huddle before the snap was, Tyler, try and get it in the endzone and if no one is open, throw it away.  Even if you get a penalty for intentional grounding, we are still close enough for a FG. 


Actually, don't they run clock on intentional grounding?  Pretty sure a grounding penalty would've meant game over.  Maybe I'm wrong, but the spirit of grounding is to make it as though the sack occured (same reason grounding in the endzone is a safety).


Right you are Andrew, there would have been a 10-second runoff including the penalty. So, game over.
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   Posted: 10/29/2012 8:23:06 AM 
OhioAlum wrote:

I have heard many of you b#$ch and moan for years about tOSU on this board. If this happened to them, their fans would be burning down Columbus. I am not saying that is the right thing to do, nor do I want the truly fanatical approach that Buckeye fans have.


Bingo!  We aren't those fans and I am d%$# proud of it.  The people you see showing restraint here are the same ones who have been patient with this program for years and kept supporting it with season tickets, gifts to the OBC, etc.  We have yet to attract, hopefully never will, the fans who have invested nothing but a Saturday afternoon in front of the TV and are usually the same ones going bananas in the papers and on message boards about "their" team.

It'll be OK, I promise. We've survived much worse.

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   Posted: 10/29/2012 8:29:49 AM 
TheGreenFever wrote:
What should have been said in the huddle before the snap was, Tyler, try and get it in the endzone and if no one is open, throw it away.  Even if you get a penalty for intentional grounding, we are still close enough for a FG.  Let's beat their ass in OT!!

Now, I don't know exactly what was said and maybe that is what Frank told him, the fact is we could have still won that game.  I am still upset and will be until Thursday when we win again.  But, I keep telling myself and all you should too if you are not already, shoot we are 7-1 with a Bowl Bid already.  Let's go Bobcats!!!

We are bowl eligible but I doubt we will see a bowl game with anything worse than a 9-3 record
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   Posted: 10/29/2012 8:43:58 AM 

Love the passion OhioAlum.  Keep that fire burning.  

There were some tough plays at the end of that game.  Tough to watch for sure.  But I believe in Solich and his staff's passion and commitment, and Tettleton and his fellow players' passion and commitment.  Burning couches and ripping on people on talk radio and the internets just ain't for me.




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   Posted: 10/29/2012 9:17:28 AM 
Rowdy Rufus wrote:
TheGreenFever wrote:
What should have been said in the huddle before the snap was, Tyler, try and get it in the endzone and if no one is open, throw it away.  Even if you get a penalty for intentional grounding, we are still close enough for a FG.  Let's beat their ass in OT!!

Now, I don't know exactly what was said and maybe that is what Frank told him, the fact is we could have still won that game.  I am still upset and will be until Thursday when we win again.  But, I keep telling myself and all you should too if you are not already, shoot we are 7-1 with a Bowl Bid already.  Let's go Bobcats!!!

We are bowl eligible but I doubt we will see a bowl game with anything worse than a 9-3 record


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   Posted: 10/29/2012 10:06:58 AM 
TheGreenFever wrote:
What should have been said in the huddle before the snap was, Tyler, try and get it in the endzone and if no one is open, throw it away.  Even if you get a penalty for intentional grounding, we are still close enough for a FG.  Let's beat their ass in OT!!

Now, I don't know exactly what was said and maybe that is what Frank told him, the fact is we could have still won that game.  I am still upset and will be until Thursday when we win again.  But, I keep telling myself and all you should too if you are not already, shoot we are 7-1 with a Bowl Bid already.  Let's go Bobcats!!!


Actually a grounding penalty would have ended the game, per the 10 sec run-off rule that the NCAA has.  Any play had to be a 1 step or 3 step drop to the corner of the endzone, where ball is either caught up high, or a back shoulder throw, or incomplete.
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   Posted: 10/29/2012 10:18:47 AM 
Let's be honest with ourselves, we have played ONE team with a winning record, and one team that is .500. 

We have built our 7-1 record on the backs of some pretty poor teams, the test of this team will be down the stretch, with three of our final four opponents having winning records.

PSU - 5-3
NMSU - 1-7
MU - 3-5
NFSU - 2-7
UMass - 0-8
UB - 1-7
UA - 1-8

That is a record of 13-45

Miami was at .500. 

The test of this team will be the next month of the season.
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   Posted: 10/29/2012 11:41:26 AM 
I could not agree more. The loss at Miami falls not only on Tettleton, but on the coaching staff, Solich, the o coordinator especially. THEY HAVE TO REMIND TETTLETON THEY HAVE NO TIMEOUTS LEFT.  Just an awful way for undefeated season to end.
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