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Ted Thompson
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Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/3/2012 9:40:23 PM

Use this thread to talk about anything game-related. For away games, we'll have a separate travel thread.

Date: November 7th, 2012 8:00 PM

Opponent: Bowling Green   (6-3, 4-1 MAC)

Site: Peden Stadium

TV: ESPN2

Radio:  Ohio Radio

Webcast: WatchESPN

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/3/2012 9:51:01 PM

Over on Ay Ziggy Zoomba they think that they should win this game. I think we will - if we score at least 32.....................

RS Bobcat

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/4/2012 2:25:30 AM

I think it'll be a close game with Ohio squeaking out the win. BG is definitely good enough to beat us and has a very good defense.

The one thing I will say that is annoying me recently is how everyone has been criticizing OU's schedule and how they've been in a lot of close games vs. bad teams. If you look at Toledo, they beat UB and EMU by 5 points each but we don't talk about them winning close games vs. bad teams.

BG has been beating a bunch of nobodies outside of Miami, and hasn't really shown an explosive offense.

And the same could be said for Kent outside of their win over Rutgers which was very impressive in my mind.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the battle for the top of the MAC is wide open right now between Toledo, NIU, Kent and Ohio with BG and Ball State a small step behind.

For anyone that says any of the top 4 teams are at a level above one another right now would be incorrect in my opinion right now based on how all four teams have played this year.

I'd say it's a dead heat and these next few weeks will be exciting as hell. Go Bobcats.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/4/2012 7:57:51 AM

buffalobobcatfan wrote:

For anyone that says any of the top 4 teams are at a level above one another right now would be incorrect in my opinion right now based on how all four teams have played this year.

I'd say it's a dead heat and these next few weeks will be exciting as hell. Go Bobcats.

I'd say at this point, NI, appears to be the top dog. At this point they have the top quarterback who is making all the right decisions and a team that hasn't to this point seen nearly the injuries that some others have experienced.

Considering NI are reining MAC Champions and kicked "A" in their bowl game last season, only a very close loss to a BigTen mares NI's 1 and a half year resume.

Go Bobcats, Beat Bowling Green State University and keep the string going of winning against the feathered mascots of Eagles, Falcons, and Cardinals. Then we'll smoke Kent and knock the Flashes on their Ashes.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/4/2012 9:02:58 AM

The magic number is 20- our last 3 losses have been by a score of 23-20, if we score more than 20 we'll be fine. I think we'll see a game plan similar to Penn State, negate their D with hurry up and quick slants.

Our first 9 opponents have 22 wins, our next 3 have 20. We're about to find out how good we really are.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/4/2012 5:49:51 PM

RSBobcat wrote:

Over on Ay Ziggy Zoomba they think that they should win this game. I think we will - if we score at least 32.....................

Yeah.....callin Tyler a she......sounds like locker room fodder to me.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/4/2012 6:08:17 PM

We open as 5.5pt favorites.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/4/2012 8:32:43 PM

Good guess by you. That's a lot higher than I expected. I'd be happy with a 5 point win, for sure.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/4/2012 9:07:07 PM

At this time of year, with this much at stake, against these teams, I'll take a W by any margin.

No matter the count, if we defend the eyepatch, then everything will be good.

off topic--supposedly were about 900 media members at lsu/alabama yesterday. what's the max ever at Peden?

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/4/2012 9:16:31 PM

I'm getting this feeling that TO's and points off them are going to be a decisive factor in this game......................

RS Bobcat

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/4/2012 9:24:54 PM

Vegas Sportsbook has already dropped it to -3.5. You're probably right LC, this game will probably kick-off as a pick-em.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/4/2012 10:09:48 PM

Last year's game went down to the last play, so we probably shouldn't expect less this year. The don't score a lot (23 ppg) but they're also really stingy -- just 15 ppg, which puts them 9th in 1A. I think they're banking on a good defense beating a good offense. We're +1 per game on turnover margin compared to them (+15 to +6), but they've forced almost as many turnovers as we have (20-17). Offensively, they rely more on the pass than the run, but not overly so (216 ypg to 170). They're almost as stingy as we are on giving up sacks, and are better at pressuring the QB (almost 3 sacks per game). With their defense being one of the best in the country, the shorter the field our has in front of them, the better. Turnovers will likely be key in this one.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/4/2012 10:26:09 PM

Pataskala wrote:

Penalties too. They tend to hurt themselves. TO, field position, penalties. Ohio plays clean, takes advantage, runs the ball, stops the run and wins the game.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/4/2012 10:52:05 PM

I have been concerned about this game because of the 3 games in 12 days. How did Ohio fare when they have done this before?

2007 - Beat @BG 38-27, Beat Temple 23-7, Lost @Akron 48-37
2011 - Beat @CMU 43-28, Beat @BG 29-28, Beat Miami 21-14
2012 - Lost @Miami 23-20, Beat EMU 45-14,

In 2007 I remember that both the BG and Temple games were very physical, and while Ohio was better than Akron, they just looked spent, and couldn't get it done. Last year they managed to get through the schedule better, so I'd say that the coaches learned from the 2007 experience. It no doubt helped last year, and will held this year, that the third game is at home.

This year the EMU game was not nearly as physical as the middle game in 2007 or 2011, and the coaches substituted early and often. The team looked pretty relaxed at the end, and the fact that it wasn't close also had to help. Also, Landon Smith was the only injury I recall from the game, so with the exception of the many players gone for the season, everyone else should be reasonably healthy. I think Ohio will play well, and not tired.

My thinking is that Ohio is moving into another gear here for the stretch run. Against EMU they put together their most complete game since Penn State, and I look for more of the same.

Last Edited: 11/4/2012 10:52:43 PM by L.C.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/5/2012 9:07:45 AM

Even though this thought may not be scientific, I will be interested in the quotes this week from Frank.
The words he uses along with how he speaks these words will indicate to me his level of confidence.
He clearly stated before the EM game that Tyler was over the Miami game and he was not concerned as to any hangover for him. As we all know TT came out and played great.
1 more point on last week....As bad as EM is our 2nd teamers didn't allow a score late in the game like we did in the other games against 1 or 2 win teams. In addition our O continued to score and as Frank stated in his after game quotes he was pleased that we were able to separate ourselves as the game went on.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/5/2012 10:25:59 AM

I think we win by two touchdowns. Our "D" is taking care of Business. It is Senior Night, Blackout , Expect good weather and a nice crowd.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/5/2012 11:36:17 AM

Non OHIO alum are asking me about tickets to the BGSUcks game here in Columbus, this seems amazing to me! Can not wait to see Pedan rocking on a week night..Lets put the hammer down and show all these other MAC schools that are not showing us any respect that we mean business to finish the year off!!!

Last Edited: 11/5/2012 11:37:16 AM by Bobcat Mac

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/5/2012 11:53:31 AM

Bobcat Mac wrote:

I trust they're not BGSUcks alums, either.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/5/2012 2:24:15 PM

The big win over EMU was great, but we'll see if we're really "back" this week. Their offense isn't very dynamic, but the defense is tough. Great barometer for the culmination of this season.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/5/2012 7:27:30 PM

We bobcatattackers know what has comprised Ohio's 8-1 record. But how about BG's 6-3 record?

It includes a 27-14 loss to Florida, albeit a Gators team with a mediocre offense.

Of BG's 6 wins, 5 have come from certifiably weak teams - Idaho (by only 7 at home), Rhode Island, Akron, UMass and EMU. Its 6th win was over Miami.

In its 6 wins, BG has averaged 29 points and given up 7.6.

In Ohio's 6 wins agains weak opponents - New Mexico State, Norfolk State, UMass, Buffalo, Akron and EMU - the Bobcats have averaged 41.5 points but surrendered 23.5.

On the one hand that 5.5-pt Vegas spread is sort of surprising. But perhaps the oddsmakers haven't forgotten that BG was drilled by 37 by a surprisingly mediocre Virginia Tech that is 4-5 and has lost 4 of its last 5 by an average of 14 points a game.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/5/2012 8:49:20 PM

This will get you ready for Wednesday!

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Last Edited: 11/5/2012 8:51:25 PM by Buster

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/5/2012 9:43:35 PM

Inspired by Mike, I looked at BG's stats for the year. I find that their defense excels at shutting down bad offenses. I found the following patterns:
1. When they played offenses that for the year have averaged under 25 points, they held those teams to about 1/3 their normal points. When they played teams with averages over 25 points, the teams got about 90% of their normal points. Ohio averages 35.56 points.
2. BG is exceptionally good at shutting down 1-dimensional teams that rely on passing. Against teams that normally get over 40% of their offense from rushing, out of four, the only team they shut down was EMU, whereas they shut down all teams that normally get over 60% of their offense from passing. Ohio is averaging getting 48% of its yards rushing.
3. Bowling Green is 0-3 when giving up over 100 yards on the ground, and 6-0 when holding the foe to under 100 yards. Ohio's lowest rushing outputs for the year was 149 against Buffalo, and 162 against Miami.

My conclusion is that, if Ohio can establish the run, they will win. If they can't run the ball, and are forced to be one-dimensional, it will be a tough game to win. I think Solich will find a way to run the ball, and therefore, that Ohio will be fine.

I found one other startling bit of info - of the top 34 Rushing offenses in the country, 6 of them are in the MAC. Those are #11 NIU, #19 Ohio, #21 Kent, #27 Ball State, #31 Toledo, and #34 Buffalo, and comprise 5 of the 6 bowl eligible teams in the MAC. The other bowl eligible team, BG, isn't bad at Rushing, either, coming in at #56. Not so long ago the MAC was known primarily for their passing, so I was kind of surprised to see this, but I suspect it is a good part of the reason why the MAC has more wins now against BCS teams than ever before.

Last Edited: 11/6/2012 12:35:29 AM by L.C.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/5/2012 11:26:44 PM

L.C.

I'd love to see a rotation of Beau, Ryan and Daz ... keep 'em fresh and IMO Daz has been given enough time on the field to warrant some real quality time. I think we should be able to establish the run against BGSU.

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/6/2012 6:32:26 AM

Jerry86 wrote:

As important as the rotation of backs would be having Herman, Carlotta, Allen, Lechner, Bales, Prior, McGrath, Hiil and Roback, Knight all 100% ready to go. They have Chris Jones at DT who is 1st team MAC, Def POY type. Might be best to let our guards tee off on him with lots of running plays instead of letting him tee off on them passing.

Last Edited: 11/6/2012 9:04:12 AM by Bcat2

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RE: Official Game 10 Thread: Bowling Green

Posted: 11/6/2012 8:51:53 AM

Bcat2 wrote:

Jerry86 wrote:

As important as the rotation of backs would be having Herman, Carlooa, Allen, Lechner, Bales, Prior, McGrath, Hiil and Roback, Knight all 100% ready to go. They have Chris Jones at DT who is 1st team MAC, Def POY type. Might be best to let our guards tee off on him with lots of running plays instead of letting him tee off on them passing.

McQueen has been playing a bunch as well on the OL.....the kid is a legit 6'5"-310 and is quicks as a ....dare I say....a Cat.

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