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  Message Not Read  Marshall's future in C-USA?
   Posted: 11/21/2012 9:42:01 AM 
I attended the Marshall-Houston game on Saturday.  Many fans around me said they hated C-USA and would like back in the MAC.  A major complaint is not being able to travel to see the team play.

Now, this morning I see the following column by Chuck Landon.  He's not quite ready to say "go back to the MAC," but read between the lines:

Chucky's Lament

Edit: I should have said "'Landon's Lament" -- much more alliterative.  I'm not on top of my game today.

Last Edited: 11/21/2012 12:09:11 PM by OhioCatFan


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  Message Not Read  RE: Marshall's future in C-USA?
   Posted: 11/21/2012 12:02:52 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I attended the Marshall-Houston game on Saturday.  Many fans around me said they hated C-USA and would like back in the MAC.  A major complaint is not being able to travel to see the team play.

Now, this morning I see the following column by Chuck Landon.  He's not quite ready to say "go back to the MAC," but read between the lines:

Chucky's Lament



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  Message Not Read  RE: Marshall's future in C-USA?
   Posted: 11/21/2012 2:53:32 PM 
I'll trade EMU for Marshall and move BG to the West. Done and done.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Marshall's future in C-USA?
   Posted: 11/21/2012 3:37:11 PM 
OCF, I "lament" it every time I read a column by Chucky.

And you don't have to "read between the lines" to know what Landon is saying.  He's saying Marshall should be positioned to move up in the conference pecking order, NOT to drop to the MAC.  

I'm positive Landon would throw up if someone mentioned the possibility of moving back to the MAC.

When we play Marshall, we always have some well informed Herdistan posters on here saying that there is NO WAY Marshall wants to come back to the MAC.  Maybe the fact that you seem to hear this frequently from Marshall fans is because your particular circle of Marshall friends may feel that way.  

I'd love to see Ohio and Marshall in the same league again, but I just don't see it happening.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Marshall's future in C-USA?
   Posted: 11/21/2012 4:56:30 PM 
From Atlanta waiting for a flight to Maine:

Jeff, these were not my friends.  These were unsolicited comments by people behind me and another group in front of me.  My friends were all in the same row.  I just overheard -- or should it be overHerd -- two separate conversations near me.  The only common denominator was that like Chuck and I these were all old farts.  I think you miss the downbeat nature of Chuck's column.  He sees Marshall's star as falling.  The MAC in his mind would fit right in, though he'd still fight it.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Marshall's future in C-USA?
   Posted: 11/22/2012 1:03:51 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
From Atlanta waiting for a flight to Maine:

Jeff, these were not my friends.  These were unsolicited comments by people behind me and another group in front of me.  My friends were all in the same row.  I just overheard -- or should it be overHerd -- two separate conversations near me.  The only common denominator was that like Chuck and I these were all old farts.  I think you miss the downbeat nature of Chuck's column.  He sees Marshall's star as falling.  The MAC in his mind would fit right in, though he'd still fight it.



OCF, I think those of us in our 60's understand the draw of Marshall to Ohio as a conference member. I'm sure a lot of older their fans see value in their being in the MAC as well. A lot of younger fans, on both sides, don't see it for whatever reason.  Marshall  would be a strong addition to the MAC.  Unfortunately, IMO Marshall will never come back to the MAC, because they think C-USA is better than the MAC and the money is better there.  With the changes coming next year, and they look out to who they will be playing, their perceptions may change. If the money stays more;however, they will probably stay in C-USA,.  At some time, perhaps after playing the new schedules for a few years and the TV contracts are renewed, they may start asking themselves if they are really in a "better" conference.  It will be interesting to see if C-USA keeps their 6 bowl spots in a few years.  Marshall has also had the best of both worlds the last few years by playing both Ohio and West Virginia every year.  WVU is now off their schedule into the foreseeable future.  If Ohio drops off, after this 6 year contract, we would both be hurt if the series were not continued.  Will it be?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Marshall's future in C-USA?
   Posted: 11/23/2012 12:33:49 AM 
The AD's at both schools would be out of their minds to not try to continue it.  Both schools have really good gate for those games.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Marshall's future in C-USA?
   Posted: 11/23/2012 8:44:22 AM 
11 of Marshall's next 16 OOC scheduled games are with MAC schools. Also, something better happen quick, because they already have 3 games scheduled out of conference in 2017,including 2 MAC schools and Ohio is not one of them. I'm with you, I don't know why they wouldn't sign another series,but maybe I'm missing something.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Marshall's future in C-USA?
   Posted: 11/23/2012 9:07:29 AM 
colobobcat66 wrote:
11 of Marshall's next 16 OOC scheduled games are with MAC schools. Also, something better happen quick, because they already have 3 games scheduled out of conference in 2017,including 2 MAC schools and Ohio is not one of them. I'm with you, I don't know why they wouldn't sign another series,but maybe I'm missing something.


Um...because we've won 2 out of 3? (and were a 2PT-conversion attempt away from being 3 for 3)
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  Message Not Read  RE: Marshall's future in C-USA?
   Posted: 11/23/2012 10:51:17 AM 
mf279801 wrote:
colobobcat66 wrote:
11 of Marshall's next 16 OOC scheduled games are with MAC schools. Also, something better happen quick, because they already have 3 games scheduled out of conference in 2017,including 2 MAC schools and Ohio is not one of them. I'm with you, I don't know why they wouldn't sign another series,but maybe I'm missing something.


Um...because we've won 2 out of 3? (and were a 2PT-conversion attempt away from being 3 for 3)
I'm sure Marshall is shaking in their boots. If won/loss considerations were all there is to go on, no MAC team would ever play Ohio State.
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