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Topic: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Topic: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

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JSF
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Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/21/2013 4:44:03 PM

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/40980196/

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/22/2013 12:21:24 PM

One very simple reason - money.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/22/2013 1:28:11 PM

How are they ignoring? This comes down to each and every institution and their medical staffs. The NATA has procedures and policies in place, and each school is in charge of policing themselves. And the Athlete has some responsibility in this issue as well. And from the looks of the injury report the past several years, it seems OHIO does a good job of managing concussions with all the student-athletes who seem to have missed time with reported concussion related issues. Who was the O-Lineman who missed the end of the year with a concussion.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/22/2013 1:36:59 PM

Carlotta. He had several concussions in his career, so its a good thing his playing time is over. I hope he has no further trouble from the ones he suffered.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/22/2013 4:04:20 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

Granted this is high school but check out the fourth paragraph in particular:

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/09/29/2375925/concussion-deaths-have-changed.html

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/22/2013 5:32:03 PM

They aren't.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/22/2013 7:14:09 PM

As the article mentioned, if you send a text message improperly the NCAA WILL LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED in its investigation. If you let a concussed player on the field? Nothing. To me, that's ignoring.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/22/2013 8:50:54 PM

JSF is pretty much right. The NCAA and NFL are not doing a whole lot, and I don't think that's a tenable position.

Like most American men, I enjoy football and usually stop channel surfing whenever I find a game. When it comes to the Bobcats, I travel to a few home and away games every year and I feel pretty invested in the team. That said, it's hard to ignore the damage the game does (and not just to brains). I am starting to wonder how much do we really care about these kids after they’ve put in their four years.

Some of the links off of the original link here are very thought provoking if you have an open mind. The players are getting faster and stronger and hitting harder, and the science is getting more and more compelling. How long can football survive if the simple act of playing the game causes brain trauma? How long will parents let their children play at any level?

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/22/2013 9:48:54 PM

An extremely thought provoking subject for sure. Start playing at older ages,shorten practices and seasons and get rid of secondary pro leagues. Besides the sideline medical decisions, both in games and practices, new helmet design,lots of more research to detect early damage, etc. seems much can be done if everybody on board. Not likely though until a lawsuit makes it happen.

Last Edited: 1/22/2013 9:50:37 PM by colobobcat66

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/23/2013 1:25:36 AM

colobobcat66 wrote:

I've always wondered why helmets can't be re-designed to be less of a weapon and to protect nearly completely. Would seem to be easy given the current state of materials and design technology.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/23/2013 9:38:01 AM

One school of thought is since most concussions are a result of helmet to helmet, if you revert back to leather, padded helmets, players would be much less likely to lead with their head. The helmet is currently as much a weapon as it is protection.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/23/2013 10:55:01 AM

cc cat wrote:

Interesting idea... The helmet also contributes to a general false security, a feeling of invincibility. I don't think a leather helmet is the answer though. How about a compressible foam one, like a bicycle helmet. It would get expensive as you'd have to replace them any time they got damaged, which could be multiple times a game, but it would provide head protection without either the feeling of invincibility or being useful as a weapon.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/23/2013 11:01:10 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

I've always wondered why helmets can't be re-designed to be less of a weapon and to protect nearly completely. Would seem to be easy given the current state of materials and design technology.

I saw a piece on the difficulties they are having in making a breakthrough in helmet design. They have been working on it without any real success so far. It didn't sound good, but hopefully they make progress soon.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/23/2013 12:18:16 PM

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cc cat wrote:

As I understand it, the concern with compressing helmets of the type you describe is that there is a risk that they'll "stick" rather than slide over each other as the hard shelled ones do. This is seen as radically increasing the risks of neck/spinal injuries while also leading to the adsportion of all of the kinetic energy of the hit: when hard-shelled helmets glance off of one another, most of the kinetic energy is not absorbed all at once, rather the player's muscles/body/arms absorb it as he comes to rest.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/23/2013 9:47:02 PM

On a related note, one of my pet peeves in terms of officiating is the fact that spearing seems not to be called much these days. I usually see several incidents of spearing in every game I go to that are not called.

From the NCAA rulebook:

SECTION 24. Spearing

ARTICLE 1. Spearing is the use of the helmet (including the face mask) in

an attempt to punish an opponent.

The only "helmet penalty" that seems to be called these days is helmet-to-helmet contact. Spearing is much broader than that and used to be interpreted as any helmet-first contact with another player. Contrary to what you might think spearing was originally made a penalty to protect the spearer more than the spearee. Leading with your helmet can, and has, caused broken necks and paralysis. We need to make any helmet-first contact a point of emphasis, not just helmet-to-helmet contact. If we don't do it now, we'll do it after some poor soul becomes a paraplegic as a result of spearing another player. I hope we can be proactive!

Last Edited: 1/23/2013 9:48:40 PM by OhioCatFan

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/24/2013 9:47:46 AM

JSF wrote:

Do you have any evidence that medical staffs are purposely letting concussed athletes compete?

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/24/2013 12:28:09 PM

I doubt that he has any proof, the medical staffs are professional and the ones I know take their jobs serious. When I was at Ohio, Skip Volser did an outstanding job keeping us healthy and taking care of our needs.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/24/2013 1:00:16 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

Exactly, they don't need to regulate it.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/24/2013 11:50:34 PM

SouthernCat wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

Exactly, they don't need to regulate it.

Uh, maybe. But these are young men with hero-complexes and there's not-so-subtle pressure to get out on the field. That's why the new helmet-knocked-off, miss-the-next-play rule is good. Removes any doubt or pressure. Sends a message.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/25/2013 7:32:23 AM

Agree on the spear enforcement. Start handing out 15 yard penalties every time a player leads with the top of his head, and incidents will drop off. Also, treat concussions like the government treats corporate fraud--fine head coaches if it is found that a player with a concussion was put into a game, whether or not he knew the player had a concussion.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/25/2013 7:14:14 PM

I don't see how it's possible to make a helmet that would prevent the brain from slamming into the skull.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 1/30/2013 2:40:23 PM

JSF wrote:

I don't see how it's possible to make a helmet that would prevent the brain from slamming into the skull.

It's not.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 2/14/2013 9:19:09 AM

Looks like the NCAA is addressing headshots on defenseless players with the additional sanction of ejection. That's a good change. Not only is the targeted headshot dangerous, it's poor fundamentally and shouldn't be taught or encouraged on any level for any reason. If the only defense you have against a guy is to try to knock him unconscious, you're doing it wrong.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 2/14/2013 10:00:28 AM

C Money wrote:

Yep, and the moment they eject an OHIO player for this the stands will be booing, and we will cry about what a sissy sport that football is becoming. There will also be a thread on here about how "they" the officials, are not letting them play. ESPN will criticize the play, and then in the offseason browbeat the NCAA and NFL for not taking the health of the players seriously.

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RE: Why is the NCAA Ignoring Concussions?

Posted: 2/14/2013 10:45:46 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

C Money wrote:

Exactly.

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