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Topic:  NCAA to eliminate need for bowl waiver for 6-7 teams?
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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  NCAA to eliminate need for bowl waiver for 6-7 teams?
   Posted: 4/24/2013 8:50:58 PM 
CBS says the NCAA board will vote May 2 on whether to eliminate the need for a bowl waiver for 6-7 teams that lost their conference championship game.  But, they say, there's a "mild push" by non-AQs and others to require a winning record.  With 124 teams now in 1A and more on the way, a winning record should be a must, even if the loss is in the conference championship.  6-6 shouldn't cut it, unless they're short on teams.

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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA to eliminate need for bowl waiver for 6-7 teams?
   Posted: 4/24/2013 9:37:00 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
CBS says the NCAA board will vote May 2 on whether to eliminate the need for a bowl waiver for 6-7 teams that lost their conference championship game.  But, they say, there's a "mild push" by non-AQs and others to require a winning record.  With 124 teams now in 1A and more on the way, a winning record should be a must, even if the loss is in the conference championship.  6-6 shouldn't cut it, unless they're short on teams.


There are just too many tourist attractions/bowls.  Many are meaningless.  If you can't go .750, your season should be over.  But in this era of "participation trophies," saying you played in a bowl is important no matter how much you had to pay to play in it.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA to eliminate need for bowl waiver for 6-7 teams?
   Posted: 4/25/2013 6:31:44 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
CBS says the NCAA board will vote May 2 on whether to eliminate the need for a bowl waiver for 6-7 teams that lost their conference championship game. But, they say, there's a "mild push" by non-AQs and others to require a winning record. With 124 teams now in 1A and more on the way, a winning record should be a must, even if the loss is in the conference championship. 6-6 shouldn't cut it, unless they're short on teams.


There are just too many tourist attractions/bowls. Many are meaningless. If you can't go .750, your season should be over. But in this era of "participation trophies," saying you played in a bowl is important no matter how much you had to pay to play in it.


Especially for coaches and ADs with bowl bonuses in their contract.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA to eliminate need for bowl waiver for 6-7 teams?
   Posted: 4/25/2013 12:44:30 PM 
why vote? They voted last year to not allow it and then GT cried like a little girl BEFORE they lost their conf championship game and they gave it to them anyways. 9-3 LaTech and 8-4 MTSU (who beat GT @GT by 21pts) had to sit out, either one deserved that spot more than GT.

what difference is voting going to do this time?

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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA to eliminate need for bowl waiver for 6-7 teams?
   Posted: 4/26/2013 9:34:12 AM 
perimeterpost wrote:
why vote? They voted last year to not allow it and then GT cried like a little girl BEFORE they lost their conf championship game and they gave it to them anyways. 9-3 LaTech and 8-4 MTSU (who beat GT @GT by 21pts) had to sit out, either one deserved that spot more than GT.

what difference is voting going to do this time?


I think that was Stenbrecher's point.  They have a rule but they grant waivers every year to the detriment of bowl eligible teams, so it guts the rule.  The proposed change only does away with the waiver process for 6-7 teams that lose their conference championship game.  Other teams (such as those who play 13 games because one game was at Hawaii) still need winning records, unless there aren't enough bowl-eligible teams to fill the slots or they get a waiver.  LaTech was the only team that was screwed by the GaTech waiver (and their own stupidity) last year.  MTSU didn't go because the Sun Belt Conf punished them for jumping to CUSA.

Last Edited: 4/26/2013 9:34:56 AM by Pataskala

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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA to eliminate need for bowl waiver for 6-7 teams?
   Posted: 4/26/2013 11:06:26 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
There are just too many tourist attractions/bowls.  Many are meaningless.  If you can't go .750, your season should be over.  But in this era of "participation trophies," saying you played in a bowl is important no matter how much you had to pay to play in it.

Alan, I think you miss the point of these bowls. They do not exist to be "participation trophies", they are "participation trophies" because they exist. They exist primarily because various communities are looking for tourism dollars. For the fans they also serve a purpose of providing a sunny vacation during winter months. For the players they provide extra practices. Because the games benefit the sponsors, the TV networks, the host cities, the fans, and the players, the games continue even though as far as the game itself, the results have no real significance.

Last Edited: 4/26/2013 11:12:52 AM by L.C.

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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA to eliminate need for bowl waiver for 6-7 teams?
   Posted: 4/26/2013 6:57:20 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
There are just too many tourist attractions/bowls.  Many are meaningless.  If you can't go .750, your season should be over.  But in this era of "participation trophies," saying you played in a bowl is important no matter how much you had to pay to play in it.

Alan, I think you miss the point of these bowls. They do not exist to be "participation trophies", they are "participation trophies" because they exist. They exist primarily because various communities are looking for tourism dollars. For the fans they also serve a purpose of providing a sunny vacation during winter months. For the players they provide extra practices. Because the games benefit the sponsors, the TV networks, the host cities, the fans, and the players, the games continue even though as far as the game itself, the results have no real significance.


LC, I agree with everything you say except the "sunny vacation".  Detroit, NYC, Boise and even southern places like Nashvul, Charlotte and Memphis generally don't offer a sunny vacation in late Dec.  The announced crowd of 39,000 who went to last year's Pinstripe Bowl froze their collective arses off in the Bronx snow.

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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA to eliminate need for bowl waiver for 6-7 teams?
   Posted: 4/26/2013 9:05:31 PM 
Certainly some are sunnier than others, but I'll agree. We'll just say that the fans get a vacation, which may or may not be sunny.

Last Edited: 4/26/2013 9:06:06 PM by L.C.

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