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mf279801
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Mea culpa

Posted: 6/18/2013 11:15:39 PM

As you may or may not remember, I’ve been a frequent and intentionally provocative critic of soccer on here. Mostly about how boring it is. Well, a few months ago I got new housemates, one of whom is a big soccer fan (played D1 in college). In that time, I’ve watched several soccer games. I’m not going to act like I care at all about the MLS or foreign Club games, but I’ve found myself getting into the US National games.

So to everyone who, or who’s sport, I belittled, mocked, or ridiculed, I’m sorry.

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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/18/2013 11:27:01 PM

Nothing quite like international soccer...my favorite

colobobcat66
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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/19/2013 9:29:49 AM

As I watch 200 kids, including my 5 year old grandson , at soccer camp in Raleigh, I see a great future for soccer in the US. I'll just have real trouble getting into it. To each their own.

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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/19/2013 11:04:49 AM

mf279801 wrote:

So to everyone who, or who’s sport, I belittled, mocked, or ridiculed, I’m sorry.

Welcome aboard.

Last night sure wasn't pretty.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/19/2013 11:38:06 AM

colobobcat66 wrote:

As I watch 200 kids, including my 5 year old grandson , at soccer camp in Raleigh, I see a great future for soccer in the US. I'll just have real trouble getting into it. To each their own.

No disrespect to those kids, especially your grandson, but a soccer boom based on numbers in toddler leagues has been predicted since I started coaching my own 5 year old, let's see now, that was 27 or 28 years ago.

Attendance at Columbus Crew games is a problem these days and interest in it beyond those who do still attend is almost nil (Euro soccer fans take note of the term). I just don't see it catching fire. In Columbus, I think lacrosse, even hockey, now rival both HS and pro soccer for the attention of fans, students and parents.

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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/19/2013 12:12:36 PM

I have grown to love soccer, even though I knew almost nothing about it until I had kids who were about 5. However, I still love football and appreciating soccer does not require liking other sports less.

One thing I LOVE most about watching soccer on TV versus other sports: No advertising other than half time. I have really gotten annoyed with the level of advertising in football and basketball games in the past few years. I'd love to see a content analysis of that. It seems like there is FAR more ads than there used to be. Advertising dictates way too much of the game. In my opinion, it's damaging the flow. How often you see a scenario like:
Fourth and goal
Timeout (advertising)
One play, touchdown and extra point,
(Advertising)
Kickoff
(Advertising)

colobobcat66
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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/19/2013 12:39:17 PM

I'm just going by kids who have been involved, not attendance at pro games or whatever. I have a feeling the number of kids who have at least played at some level has increased by large percentage .

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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/19/2013 12:58:32 PM

The big problem about soccer in the US is that it's simply not competitive compared to the other Euro leagues. We're use to having the best leagues for all of our sports (Football, basketball, hockey, baseball ect.), and the only way to become the best is to get more revenue in Major League Soccer, which most teams only make a meager amount.

There is a new club forming called New York FC that is backed by both the Yankees and Manchester City in the Premiere League, which has the potential to bring in some grade A athletes. As far as seeing the MLS cup on ABC prime time anytime soon? Don't expect it.

Last Edited: 6/19/2013 12:59:26 PM by KyleWvr13

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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/19/2013 1:31:52 PM

As I've mentioned before, I have been involved with soccer my entire life and I can't stand the MLS.

I think the MLS will see very nice growth the next couple years, but not what it could be. The Mexican League and English League are more popular than the MLS in US cities that don't have MLS teams...

If you aren't a soccer fan, just watch the national team. I become a huge fan of archery and curling every four years just because rooting for America is fun...

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/20/2013 5:00:04 PM

I would recommend anyone who can to get tickets for the US v Mexico game this September at Crew Stadium. I have been to 2 of the 3 games against Mexico that were held there and they were always amazing. One of the few games that you will basically be standing the entire time. The closest you can get to a college basketball style environment, except with way more drinking lol.

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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/20/2013 8:49:28 PM

No.

While I understand that some people enjoy this futbol for a period of their life, they will get over it And, yes, attending any live event (game, play at a theater, protest rally, etc) can be gripping if there's emotional, tight activity.

But generally--and I'm deadly serious--I'll bet that in 20 or so years football is more popular in nations which become exposed to it across the world than futbol becomes in America.

Unless they decide to incorporate slobberknockers and td's in futbol.

Last Edited: 6/20/2013 8:50:07 PM by Monroe Slavin

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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/20/2013 9:07:29 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

But generally--and I'm deadly serious--I'll bet that in 20 or so years football is more popular in nations which become exposed to it across the world than futbol becomes in America.

You know absolutely nothing about the popularity of soccer across the rest of the world do you?

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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/20/2013 9:27:47 PM

Please read what I said--I believe that the popularity growth of football in other nations will be greater than the popularity growth of futbol in the U.S. I don't see how your comment applies to that assertion.

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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/21/2013 1:59:02 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

My apologies, I did read it incorrectly, but I will still disagree with you on the point you are talking about.

Several countries have their own big time sport that is only really popular in a few countries. Canada and ourselves are really the only countries with pro football leagues. Baseball stays within North America and Japan. Hurling is massively popular in Ireland, but nowhere else. Cricket is huge in the UK, India, Australia, and other former British Empire nations. Rugby is very popular in several other European countries and South Africa. Australia also has its own "Aussie Rules" Football, which I can't even begin to grasp.

The point I'm making is that many nations don't really see the appeal to football, much like we don't see the appeal to other sports like i mentioned above. Soccer is a international phenomenon with almost every nation in the world having a men's national team. Soccer in the US already has a pretty firm foothold with a passionate fan base that statistical data will show that it has steadily gained support over the past decade, whereas football isn't on the radar with any countries outside North America.

To make an incredibly long story short, there simply is not enough intrest from countries outside the US to even think about beginning a pro league in any other country outside of North America, which is a crucial step for a sport to grow in popularity. While I don't think that soccer is going to surpass football, baseball, basketball, or hockey, it will definitely continue to steadily grow in the future.

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RE: Mea culpa

Posted: 6/21/2013 11:10:28 AM

I think Lacrosse has a better chance of succeeding as a growth sport than soccer in the US. All the highschool and middle schools in South Carolina are adding it and it at least has some interesting action and contact. Soccer may be fun to play but I'd rather watch paint dry.

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