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  Message Not Read  Five possible Week 1 Upsets (outright) include Ohio
   Posted: 8/27/2013 12:26:15 PM 
at No. 2. BC goes down in the shock of the week to a FCS team:

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-football/2013/08/25/5-possible-upsets-for-week-1-of-the-college-football-season/
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  Message Not Read  RE: Five possible Week 1 Upsets (outright) include Ohio
   Posted: 8/27/2013 2:10:06 PM 
ohiopreps wrote:
at No. 2. BC goes down in the shock of the week to a FCS team:

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-football/2013/08/25/5-possible-upsets-for-week-1-of-the-college-football-season/


^  “This has outright upset written all over it for the Bobcats.”   


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  Message Not Read  RE: Five possible Week 1 Upsets (outright) include Ohio
   Posted: 8/27/2013 2:21:25 PM 
Uh, guys, we all want/hope for an upset.  But seriously?  If I was a betting guy I would stay away from this game even with 21 points.  I have a feeling we will score I just think Louisville will score a lot more given the losses on the defensive side (I know, we have guys coming back to action and ready to step in).  Still, Louisville is NOT Penn State from last year and I am sure they will NOT OVERLOOK OUr team.

Hope springs eternal though!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Five possible Week 1 Upsets (outright) include Ohio
   Posted: 8/27/2013 2:44:28 PM 
Casper71 wrote:
Uh, guys, we all want/hope for an upset.  But seriously?  If I was a betting guy I would stay away from this game even with 21 points.  I have a feeling we will score I just think Louisville will score a lot more given the losses on the defensive side (I know, we have guys coming back to action and ready to step in).  Still, Louisville is NOT Penn State from last year and I am sure they will NOT OVERLOOK OUr team.

Hope springs eternal though!


I agree that Louisville will be a tougher opponent. They have coaching continuity, a very good and experienced QB and a lot of returning starters. But last year, they beat only one FBS team (hello Temple) by more than 21 points. 

Date                 Opponent                Score 
Sep 02, 2012 KENTUCKY              W 32-14 
Sep 08, 2012 Missouri St.              W 35-7
Sep 15, 2012 NORTH CAROLINA W 39-34 
Sep 22, 2012 at FIU                         W 28-21 
Sep 29, 2012 at Southern Miss     W 21-17 
Oct 13, 2012  at Pitt                          W 45-35
Oct 20, 2012  USF                            W 27-25 
Oct 26, 2012  CINCINNATI             W OT 34-31 
Nov 03, 2012 TEMPLE                    W 45-17
Nov 10, 2012 at Syracuse               L 26-45 
Nov 24, 2012 UCONN                     L 3OT 20-23 
Nov 29, 2012 at #25 Rutgers         W 20-17 
Jan 2, 2013    at #3 Florida             W 33-23 


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  Message Not Read  RE: Five possible Week 1 Upsets (outright) include Ohio
   Posted: 8/27/2013 3:20:37 PM 
Ted Thompson wrote:
Casper71 wrote:
Uh, guys, we all want/hope for an upset.  But seriously?  If I was a betting guy I would stay away from this game even with 21 points.  I have a feeling we will score I just think Louisville will score a lot more given the losses on the defensive side (I know, we have guys coming back to action and ready to step in).  Still, Louisville is NOT Penn State from last year and I am sure they will NOT OVERLOOK OUr team.

Hope springs eternal though!


I agree that Louisville will be a tougher opponent. They have coaching continuity, a very good and experienced QB and a lot of returning starters. But last year, they beat only one FBS team (hello Temple) by more than 21 points. 

Date                 Opponent                Score 
Sep 02, 2012 KENTUCKY              W 32-14 
Sep 08, 2012 Missouri St.              W 35-7
Sep 15, 2012 NORTH CAROLINA W 39-34 
Sep 22, 2012 at FIU                         W 28-21 
Sep 29, 2012 at Southern Miss     W 21-17 
Oct 13, 2012  at Pitt                          W 45-35
Oct 20, 2012  USF                            W 27-25 
Oct 26, 2012  CINCINNATI             W OT 34-31 
Nov 03, 2012 TEMPLE                    W 45-17
Nov 10, 2012 at Syracuse               L 26-45 
Nov 24, 2012 UCONN                     L 3OT 20-23 
Nov 29, 2012 at #25 Rutgers         W 20-17 
Jan 2, 2013    at #3 Florida             W 33-23 


But Ted, they beat an SEC team in the Sugar Bowl! Granted, an SEC team that didn't wanna be there and played unmotivated football, but still! There's no way Ohio can win! Teddy Bear with throw all over us, blah blah blah.

They lost to a bad UConn team at home last year, and a Syracuse program that's been in the basement for 15 years until recently. They are very beatable, I don't care who their QB is.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Five possible Week 1 Upsets (outright) include Ohio
   Posted: 8/27/2013 3:56:24 PM 
I watched that Sugar Bowl game and was VERY impressed. I really like Charlie Strong and what he has accomplished at Louisville (and kudos to them for being able to hang on to him). But I'm currently reading Bill Connelly's Football Study Hall book and he doesn't believe they've quite hit elite yet.  They benefited greatly from turnovers last year and that typically turns around on you the following year. He estimates that in a turnover-neutral environment they would have been a .500 team last year.

The following is an excerpt from his Louisville preview that shows what the Sugar Bowl win did to 2013 expectations:
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/8/21/4636558/2013-louisville-football-schedule-roster-preview-teddy-bridgewater/in/4403817

Excerpt:

Heading into the Sugar Bowl with Florida, Louisville ranked 21st in the BCS standings, 22nd in the AP poll. Despite a solid record (10-2), this felt about right -- the Cardinals had lost two of three to finish the regular season and beaten pretty bad FIU, Southern Miss, and USF teams by a combined 13 points. They were supposed to take their beating against Florida in New Orleans, fall out of the final polls, and then, with quite a bit returning from the 2012 squad, begin the 2013 season somewhere in the No. 20-25 range, perhaps No. 15-20 if you're being aggressive (or just really like Teddy Bridgewater).

Then Louisville beat Florida. Bridgewater, hobbled in November, was back to firing perfect passes into tiny windows 15 yards downfield, and with an early lead, the Cardinals and their solid pass defense had their way with Florida and its shaky passing offense. Louisville won, 33-23; it was a lovely cap to an 11-win season that, computer rankings be damned, was an 11-win season.

Bowl games are in no way predictive of success the following year. Winning a bowl game does not depend on the same specific set of skills as winning a regular season game; it is as much about motivation, rust, and keeping your players out of trouble (legal or grades) during the break as it is about the pure quality of your team overall. Bowls can finish seasons on sharp or sour notes, but they have next to no bearing on the next season. In that regard, they count like any other game.

For Louisville, though, the win completely and totally changed their offseason perceptions. Instead of getting voted into the No. 20-25 range, the Cardinals are eighth in the USA Today coaches' poll and ninth in the Sports Illustrated rankings and AP poll. The win over Florida was worth 10-15 spots. And with a ridiculously friendly schedule, Louisville is generally considered a darkhorse BCS title game contender (or, hell, not even a darkhorse).

 


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  Message Not Read  RE: Five possible Week 1 Upsets (outright) include Ohio
   Posted: 8/27/2013 6:05:26 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Ted Thompson wrote:
Casper71 wrote:
Uh, guys, we all want/hope for an upset.  But seriously?  If I was a betting guy I would stay away from this game even with 21 points.  I have a feeling we will score I just think Louisville will score a lot more given the losses on the defensive side (I know, we have guys coming back to action and ready to step in).  Still, Louisville is NOT Penn State from last year and I am sure they will NOT OVERLOOK OUr team.

Hope springs eternal though!


I agree that Louisville will be a tougher opponent. They have coaching continuity, a very good and experienced QB and a lot of returning starters. But last year, they beat only one FBS team (hello Temple) by more than 21 points. 

Date                 Opponent                Score 
Sep 02, 2012 KENTUCKY              W 32-14 
Sep 08, 2012 Missouri St.              W 35-7
Sep 15, 2012 NORTH CAROLINA W 39-34 
Sep 22, 2012 at FIU                         W 28-21 
Sep 29, 2012 at Southern Miss     W 21-17 
Oct 13, 2012  at Pitt                          W 45-35
Oct 20, 2012  USF                            W 27-25 
Oct 26, 2012  CINCINNATI             W OT 34-31 
Nov 03, 2012 TEMPLE                    W 45-17
Nov 10, 2012 at Syracuse               L 26-45 
Nov 24, 2012 UCONN                     L 3OT 20-23 
Nov 29, 2012 at #25 Rutgers         W 20-17 
Jan 2, 2013    at #3 Florida             W 33-23 


But Ted, they beat an SEC team in the Sugar Bowl! Granted, an SEC team that didn't wanna be there and played unmotivated football, but still! There's no way Ohio can win! Teddy Bear with throw all over us, blah blah blah.

They lost to a bad UConn team at home last year, and a Syracuse program that's been in the basement for 15 years until recently. They are very beatable, I don't care who their QB is.

Also a First Play Pick 6 and quick 2nd score on top of learning they would be going to the Sugar Bowl may have been enough to take Florida completely out of that game very early on. 

Last Edited: 8/27/2013 6:08:55 PM by Rowdy Rufus

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  Message Not Read  RE: Five possible Week 1 Upsets (outright) include Ohio
   Posted: 8/27/2013 7:30:20 PM 
Ted Thompson wrote:


I agree that Louisville will be a tougher opponent. They have coaching continuity, a very good and experienced QB and a lot of returning starters. But last year, they beat only one FBS team (hello Temple) by more than 21 points. 

Date                 Opponent                Score 
Sep 02, 2012 KENTUCKY              W 32-14 
Sep 08, 2012 Missouri St.              W 35-7
Sep 15, 2012 NORTH CAROLINA W 39-34 
Sep 22, 2012 at FIU                         W 28-21 
Sep 29, 2012 at Southern Miss     W 21-17 
Oct 13, 2012  at Pitt                          W 45-35
Oct 20, 2012  USF                            W 27-25 
Oct 26, 2012  CINCINNATI             W OT 34-31 
Nov 03, 2012 TEMPLE                    W 45-17
Nov 10, 2012 at Syracuse               L 26-45 
Nov 24, 2012 UCONN                     L 3OT 20-23 
Nov 29, 2012 at #25 Rutgers         W 20-17 
Jan 2, 2013    at #3 Florida             W 33-23 


I posted these two thoughts somewhere else, but they're worth repeating.  First, this ain't gonna be Penn St.  L'ville isn't in disarray like Unhappy Valley was and thy won't have that huge rush of emotion that the Lions did.  They are a very good team that won't lose steam midway through the 2nd Q.

Second, on the other hand, they've tended to overlook non-AQ opposition early in the season under Strong.  It showed in the FIU and Southern Miss games last season (Southern Miss was 0-12 last year but lost by 4), and other games in previous years.  They're going to give us some chances and we need to capitalize on every one.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Five possible Week 1 Upsets (outright) include Ohio
   Posted: 8/28/2013 12:08:44 AM 
I have been reading the Louisville forum posts for the past several weeks. The Cardinal fans are convinced that this is their special, magic year. They genuinely feel that (1) they will beat OHIO convincingly in the opening game, perhaps outscoring the Bobcats by as much as 30 points in the first half, (2) they will beat UK even more convincingly on September 14th, (3) they will win their conference championship, (4) they will win every game and go undefeated in the regular season, (5) they will win by an average margin of 30 points each game, (6) they will play in the BCS National Championship (probably against Alabama or tOSU), (7) they will win the national championship in football (to go with their NCAA basketball title), (8) Charlie Strong will be named coach of the year, and (9) Teddy Bridgewater will win the Heisman trophy. Seriously. They are hardly considering this Sunday's game as any sort of challenge at all, looking completely past it. 

I don't know if all this optimism is shared by the Louisville players themselves. However, they are rated in the top ten, without having run a play or having defended a play in a game yet. It is possible that they are also somewhat full of themselves.

I do know that from what I have seen on Bobcat Attack, OUr fans are, for the most part, very cautious and pragmatic about the possibility of a pleasant and surprising upset. Coach Solich and OUr players are respectful of Louisville, while at the same time fully confident in themselves and their preparedness. There are no delusions among us. We all simply know that this game must be won by the victor on the field, on Sunday.

Now, Go Bobcats!


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  Message Not Read  RE: Five possible Week 1 Upsets (outright) include Ohio
   Posted: 8/28/2013 11:50:10 PM 
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Date                 Opponent                Score 
Sep 22, 2012 at FIU                         W 28-21 
Sep 29, 2012 at Southern Miss     W 21-17  


They also had less than impressive wins early against two very bad teams last year..  both were on the road but against those two that shouldn't have mattered.. 

Last Edited: 8/28/2013 11:51:37 PM by Beat Michigan

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