BobcatAttack.com - For Fans of Ohio University Sports

Welcome Guest!
Create an Account

site search

about us

advertise with us

help

BobcatAttack.com Message Board

Ohio Football

Topic: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Topic: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Author

Message

Frank's Love Child
General User

Member Since: 8/13/2013
Post Count: 2

Status: Offline

3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/13/2013 9:42:04 PM

How about some unbiased analysis and predictions? Can we take Marshall for the third straight year? My biggest concern is how much better Cato will be this year. Otherwise, I think the Bobcats still have the upper hand.

Deciduous Forest Cat
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Ohio
Post Count: 4,466

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/13/2013 10:01:32 PM

Cato absolutely shredded us last year. He'd be hard-pressed to duplicate those stats, and they still only scored 24 on us. If we can just be a little effective at containing their throwing game, I could see us running away with it, because I don't see them holding us to 27 again.

That one crazy fan
General User

Member Since: 7/21/2010
Location: Iowa City, IA
Post Count: 489

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/13/2013 10:02:43 PM

My worry is if they have a runningback this year. If they have even a decent one it could cause problems for us with Cato's passing game combined with that.

The opposing team sucks!

Paul Graham
General User

Member Since: 1/18/2005
Location: The Plains, OH
Post Count: 1,424

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/13/2013 10:12:59 PM

Keep in mind that we were running with a really inexperienced secondary at Marshall. Hughes wasn't back yet...we had just lost Shaw and obviously Travis. Things should be much better this year.

Gallia Cat
General User

Member Since: 7/11/2010
Post Count: 938

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/13/2013 10:57:14 PM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

The Ohio secondary should be much stronger this year with the return of Carrie. I think Ohio will be a 7 point favorite and will cover at home.

C Money
General User

Member Since: 8/28/2010
Post Count: 3,420

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/13/2013 11:04:05 PM

I think I would probably make my season predictions now if it weren't for this game. Working in Herdistan, every year I hear, "This is the year! This is the year Marshall is back!" And it never is. Except that if it doesn't happen this year, it isn't going to happen for Holliday, the fan base will desert, and that's that. There's an added sense of urgency that I think Terd gets, so maybe they turn it up a notch on an emotional level.

That being said....we ALWAYS play Terd much better at home than in Huntington. Even in the Dark Days of the Brian Knorr Era, we came really close to knocking them off a couple of times in Athens when they were a borderline top 25 team.

If I had to guess right now, I'd say it comes down to who wins the battles up front on both sides of the ball. Like us, Terd's secondary will be the strong point of their defense this year, but their WR corps took a hit while ours should improve. Terd did develop a stronger running game towards the end of the year last year, but I really like how our D line is looking so far, and I don't think Terd has an answer for the three headed RB monster of Beau, Boykin, and Daz. If I had to pick right now, I think we win a 3-4 point ball game, with a slight edge to Terd in passing stats and moderate edge to us in rushing stats. Game ball to Boykin.

colobobcat66
General User

Member Since: 9/1/2006
Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO
Post Count: 4,547

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/13/2013 11:04:17 PM

Gallia Cat wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

The Ohio secondary should be much stronger this year with the return of Carrie. I think Ohio will be a 7 point favorite and will cover at home.

of course, the results of the first games for both teams will be factored in, but I'm guessing more like Ohio maybe a 3 point favorite. I'll give $100 to the Bobcat Club if we hold them under 30.

mf279801
General User

Member Since: 8/6/2010
Location: Newark, DE
Post Count: 2,472

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/14/2013 12:40:44 AM

We could start by not spotting them 14 points...

perimeterpost
General User

Member Since: 7/6/2010
Post Count: 3,165

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/14/2013 11:07:22 AM

colobobcat66 wrote:

Gallia Cat wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

The Ohio secondary should be much stronger this year with the return of Carrie. I think Ohio will be a 7 point favorite and will cover at home.

of course, the results of the first games for both teams will be factored in, but I'm guessing more like Ohio maybe a 3 point favorite. I'll give $100 to the Bobcat Club if we hold them under 30.

Marshall has only scored 30+ points in Athens twice in 28 attempts- 30pts in 1998 and 31pts in 1972. Get your checkbook ready.

MY STATE. MY TEAM.

colobobcat66
General User

Member Since: 9/1/2006
Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO
Post Count: 4,547

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/14/2013 11:22:37 AM

perimeterpost wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

Gallia Cat wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

The Ohio secondary should be much stronger this year with the return of Carrie. I think Ohio will be a 7 point favorite and will cover at home.

of course, the results of the first games for both teams will be factored in, but I'm guessing more like Ohio maybe a 3 point favorite. I'll give $100 to the Bobcat Club if we hold them under 30.

Marshall has only scored 30+ points in Athens twice in 28 attempts- 30pts in 1998 and 31pts in 1972. Get your checkbook ready.

it is ready, I hope I have to pay

The Situation
General User

Member Since: 7/12/2010
Location: Columbus, OH
Post Count: 957

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/14/2013 11:37:07 AM

Paul Meyerburg pegged this Marshall team for the highest expectations in a decade. That's saying something.

Am I overstepping when I say IF (big IF) we beat Louisville this Marshall game will be the biggest non-conference game ever played in Peden? (Consider the signifcantly reduced potential of reaching a BCS bowl moving forward).

Whether or not we're undefeated heading into this game, I just love playing the Herd.

Pataskala
General User

Member Since: 7/8/2010
Location: At least six feet away from anybody else
Post Count: 9,363

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/14/2013 12:50:02 PM

The Situation wrote:

Am I overstepping when I say IF (big IF) we beat Louisville this Marshall game will be the biggest non-conference game ever played in Peden? (Consider the signifcantly reduced potential of reaching a BCS bowl moving forward).

I'm thinking the North Texas game may be the biggest OOC game of the season. That's a trap game waiting to happen -- a short week, right after L'ville, right before Terd. Ouch.

Can we beat Terd? Of course. Will be beat Terd? Dunno. We may have to bring our A game for this one. Terd may be much improved. USAT has Terd 40th and Ohio 39th. CBS actually ranks them ahead of us (although I don't buy Ohio at 79). This one may come down to the final minutes (although I'd like to see us blow them out like '11).

We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

colobobcat66
General User

Member Since: 9/1/2006
Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO
Post Count: 4,547

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/14/2013 12:56:22 PM

In case you haven't noticed Cato is pretty good and not a freshman anymore. The chance of a repeat of 2011 is zero

MUsince96
General User

Member Since: 6/15/2012
Post Count: 23

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/15/2013 11:16:58 AM

That one crazy fan wrote:

My worry is if they have a runningback this year. If they have even a decent one it could cause problems for us with Cato's passing game combined with that.

When we played last year we were still trying to fit a round peg into a square hole with Travon Van. It wasn't until the next game at Rice we began using the rotation of Grooms, Butler, and Watson that our running game really took off. Those are 3 excellent backs, and the rushing game is right on par with the passing game.

Last Edited: 8/15/2013 11:18:05 AM by MUsince96

Brufus
General User

Member Since: 12/13/2011
Location: Wherever Miami and Michigan suck
Post Count: 416

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/15/2013 11:50:36 AM

colobobcat66 wrote:

In case you haven't noticed Cato is pretty good and not a freshman anymore. The chance of a repeat of 2011 is zero

I think that 2011 game would've gone much differently had Rakeem not thrown a pick on the third play of the game. But I digress...

Right now I'm thinking Marshall will keep it close for 3 quarters, but Ohio will run away with it in the fourth. But if we get down 14-0 like last year, anything can happen...

perimeterpost
General User

Member Since: 7/6/2010
Post Count: 3,165

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/15/2013 12:50:03 PM

Marshall's problems with Ohio the last couple of years in both football and basketball hasn't come from a lack of physical talent but from a lack of mental toughness.

Last year Marshall's neanderthal coaches thought it was a good idea to break boards over their backs during pregame to get the team hyped. It worked. too well. Marshall came out strong in the first quarter but the dancing and the posturing and showboating after every single play drained all of their adrenaline. They went flat in Q2 and Ohio put up 17 unanswered points and Marshall never recovered. In 2011 they didn't have the mental toughness to overcome the early mistakes. They were only down 10-7 at the end of the 1st but had already thrown 3 INTs and looked lost and timid. In the 2nd they had 3 turnovers and a punt while giving up 24 on defense and that was the ball game, the second half was just a formality.

Marshall is good but they'll need to be mentally tough to win in Athens.

MY STATE. MY TEAM.

Beat Michigan
General User

Member Since: 8/15/2013
Location: Almost Heaven
Post Count: 245

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 8/15/2013 3:14:39 PM

If you look at all the games at Peden since they started playing again in 97 Ohio has either won or Marshall won by 7 once and 3 twice. I expect a tough close game that could really go either way. I don't expect of repeat of 2011 but something more similar to 98, 2002 or 2004.

Frank's Love Child
General User

Member Since: 8/13/2013
Post Count: 2

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 9/9/2013 9:54:52 PM

After the crowd we had against North Texas, I can only imagine what it will be like this week and how pumped everyone will be! Thanks for the predictions and Go Bobcats! I can hardly wait for Saturday!!!

Beat Michigan
General User

Member Since: 8/15/2013
Location: Almost Heaven
Post Count: 245

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 9/9/2013 10:06:23 PM

but out of the 24,000 this week 5 to 8 thousand of them will be Marshall fans. I believe Ohio has to give Marshall 5000 tickets plus another couple thousand probably bought em from the Ohio ticket office.

Last I saw Marshall is 7 point favorites.

colobobcat66
General User

Member Since: 9/1/2006
Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO
Post Count: 4,547

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 9/9/2013 10:07:45 PM

Frank's Love Child wrote:

the big difference will be 3000-4000 Marshall fans versus 50 N Texas had.

goherd25
General User

Member Since: 5/17/2012
Post Count: 143

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 9/9/2013 10:26:54 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

Frank's Love Child wrote:

the big difference will be 3000-4000 Marshall fans versus 50 N Texas had.

3 to 4 won't touch it. And our D and running game is vastly improced since last year, and based on the first 2 games, I believe Ohio to be not as good a team as last year. Herd by 21.

Bobcat110alum
General User

Member Since: 7/7/2010
Location: Columbus, OH
Post Count: 470

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 9/9/2013 10:34:58 PM

goherd25 wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

Frank's Love Child wrote:

the big difference will be 3000-4000 Marshall fans versus 50 N Texas had.

3 to 4 won't touch it. And our D and running game is vastly improced since last year, and based on the first 2 games, I believe Ohio to be not as good a team as last year. Herd by 21.

Herd could pull it out, but not by 21. Not in Athens. We need to take the handcuffs off the offense and let em get wild.

B.S. Journalism, 2012.

bobcat72
General User

Member Since: 7/2/2011
Location: Athens, OH
Post Count: 540

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 9/9/2013 10:55:22 PM

Chris_PHS89 wrote:

I talked with my sales team "account rep" last week to order a couple more tickets to the game and learned that Marshall's sales are way below expectations. Apparently they were given 3,000 tickets but returned about 1,800 of them unsold. That's not to say that some Marshall fans won't be purchasing through Ohio...but it doesn't sound like a Herd invasion.

KyleWvr13
General User

Member Since: 11/9/2010
Location: Pottstown, PA
Post Count: 501

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 9/9/2013 11:11:44 PM

bobcat72 wrote:

Chris_PHS89 wrote:

If that's the case, Marshall's turnout won't be nearly as impressive as 2 years ago.

What a shame...

OhioCatFan
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Athens, OH
Post Count: 14,744

Status: Offline

RE: 3-In-A-Row Over Marshall... Or not???

Posted: 9/9/2013 11:42:15 PM

I have some anecdotal evidence that would seem to point in the direction of a lower Herd turnout than two years ago. We have friends in Huntington (both Ohio grads) who usually come to Athens with a bunch of Marshall fans and we have a pre-game party at our house. When we go to Huntington to a game (not always just an Ohio game) we always go to the in-home tailgate that this group throws so we return the favor when they come here. However, this year only the two Ohio grads are coming (and staying overnight with us), the rest of this herd is not coming to see their Herd. That's like in zilch, nada, none of them.

The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA

"It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right."

Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org

Showing Replies:	1 - 25 of 68 Posts
Jump to Page:	1 \| 2 \| 3 Next >

View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics

There are 270 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com

268 Guests
2 Registered Users:
	M.D.W.S.T, Kevin Finnegan

There are no other users looking at this page.