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Topic: OT - Dave Clawson to Wake Forest

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Eagle66
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OT - Dave Clawson to Wake Forest

Posted: 12/10/2013 9:40:21 AM

http://www.journalnow.com/sports/wfu/football/article_1a096476-6143-11e3-a378-0019bb30f31a.html?mode=jqm

Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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RE: OT - Dave Clawson to Wake Forest

Posted: 12/10/2013 11:42:51 AM

Wake Forest really likes meat and potato type of coaches, don't they? Grobe and now Clawson.

Probably smart given their place in the college football world. Just do things right, hire a guy who won't get you in trouble with the NCAA and hopefully win some games here or there before basketball season starts and everybody stops paying attention.

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RE: OT - Dave Clawson to Wake Forest

Posted: 12/10/2013 3:09:20 PM

Just saw that TE coach/Special Teams Coordinator Adam Scheier will be interim HC for the Pizza Bowl. Always disagreed with a coach leaving a team before the bowl game (which we saw with Dave Doeren last year)

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RE: OT - Dave Clawson to Wake Forest

Posted: 12/11/2013 11:35:16 AM

Wake Forest is the type of job where if a coach had any success (like Jim Grobe did when he went to the Orange Bowl), a decision would have to be made: if the coach is very ambitious to be upwardly mobile, he would have to get out of Dodge right away because you can't sustain success at Wake Forest.

OTOH...if a coach was further along in life, maybe not as ambitious for vertical mobility...Winston Salem would be a great place to be for about 10 years or so. After that, the coach could retire or if forced out could take a mid major head coaching job somewhere...

Wake Forest is a fine school in a great place to live.

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RE: OT - Dave Clawson to Wake Forest

Posted: 12/11/2013 2:40:23 PM

Sadly the first thing I thought after I saw BG win the MAC on Friday night was "well their coach is going to be gone now." I had a feeling last year that he was on his way out of town soon enough. Frank is kind of against the trend for most MAC coaches (in my opinion at least) as he views his job as a curtain call, not a step up the ladder.

Whoever takes over the helm for them will have some big expectations to maintain. Here's to hoping he Knorrs it up like the last coach who followed someone who left for Wake!

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colobobcat66
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RE: OT - Dave Clawson to Wake Forest

Posted: 12/11/2013 2:45:17 PM

The same thing happens all the time in the MAC. You win there, you move on, sometimes successfully, sometimes not. IMO, one if the reasons Frank has been rather consistent while other teams ebb and flow with their coaching carousel.

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RE: OT - Dave Clawson to Wake Forest

Posted: 12/12/2013 10:51:54 AM

This seems like a ripe research assignment for L.C. How have coaches from the MAC that have moved up fared during Solich's tenure? Of course Brian Kelly has done fine for himself (Hoke has a high-paying job, but that may change in the near future), but others (Hazell's first year at Purdue was 1-11, Haywood never coached a game for Pitt, Al Golden has been iffy) have had less than stellar results. What's it look like for coaches who move up? Are they choosing the right job to move up, or are they just doing it for the sake of moving up?

L.C.
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RE: OT - Dave Clawson to Wake Forest

Posted: 12/12/2013 1:10:36 PM

I know Gill didn't do well at Kansas, but Kill is doing fine at Minnesota (except from a health standpoint). If I have time, I'll do more research.

One thing about Clawson disappointed me. As seems to be becoming more common, he abandoned his team before their bowl so that he could get an earlier start on recruiting. I'd like to point out, by way of contrast, that not all coaches do that. Craig Bohl, and NDSU, announced that he would continue to coach NDSU until their playoff run is completed, and would not start at Wyoming until his current job was completed.

Last Edited: 12/12/2013 1:11:37 PM by L.C.

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