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Author Message Brufus General User Member Since: 12/13/2011 Location: Wherever Miami and Michigan suck Post Count: 416 Status: Offline     Who sees Ohio doing this in the future?    Posted: 1/26/2015 1:16:51 PM  North Carolina & Wake Forest have agreed to a home-and-home series in 2019 and 2021 that WON'T count toward the ACC standings, would be "non-conference." http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12230742/a... They're in separate divisions, but either way, I have to wonder, what if Ohio or other MAC schools did this? Last Edited: 1/26/2015 1:19:51 PM by Brufus Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 5,179 Status: Offline     RE: Who sees Ohio doing this in the future?    Posted: 1/26/2015 1:51:59 PM  I think this comes about as a result of traditional rivals being put in separate divisions of a mega conference. The ACC is basically up to 15 teams (with ND), so they will only play the cross-division teams every 4 years or so in conference. If the MAC expanded to 16 and Miami (or even BG/Kent/Akron) ended up in the other division, I would consider something like this or at least view it as not ridiculous. But in the present set up, no thanks. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top Y-CityCatFan General User Member Since: 7/28/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 139 Status: Offline     RE: Who sees Ohio doing this in the future?    Posted: 1/26/2015 2:23:49 PM  I see this as a way for the power conference teams to schedule less G5 competition. For example, OSU could put Iowa (B1G West) on the "non conference" schedule in place of a MAC team and "boost" their schedule strength. I don't like where this could go. Back to Top UpSan Bobcat General User Member Since: 8/30/2005 Location: Upper Sandusky, OH Post Count: 3,812 Status: Offline     RE: Who sees Ohio doing this in the future?    Posted: 1/26/2015 2:36:57 PM  Y-CityCatFan wrote: I see this as a way for the power conference teams to schedule less G5 competition. For example, OSU could put Iowa (B1G West) on the "non conference" schedule in place of a MAC team and "boost" their schedule strength. I don't like where this could go. I think that'd be pretty unlikely. Ohio State can schedule anyone and make the same profit. They sell out every game. They can buy a MAC school and generally get an easy win. For North Carolina and Wake Forest, they'll have a much higher attendance playing each other rather than playing some other random team. That substantial extra revenue is more important to them than an easy win. In addition, if you read the story, they were going to go seven years without playing each other. There were only be three or four years tops between games in the Big Ten. Back to Top Y-CityCatFan General User Member Since: 7/28/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 139 Status: Offline     RE: Who sees Ohio doing this in the future?    Posted: 1/26/2015 3:07:29 PM  UpSan Bobcat wrote: Y-CityCatFan wrote: I see this as a way for the power conference teams to schedule less G5 competition. For example, OSU could put Iowa (B1G West) on the "non conference" schedule in place of a MAC team and "boost" their schedule strength. I don't like where this could go. I think that'd be pretty unlikely. Ohio State can schedule anyone and make the same profit. They sell out every game. They can buy a MAC school and generally get an easy win. For North Carolina and Wake Forest, they'll have a much higher attendance playing each other rather than playing some other random team. That substantial extra revenue is more important to them than an easy win. In addition, if you read the story, they were going to go seven years without playing each other. There were only be three or four years tops between games in the Big Ten. I understand that. I wasn't talking about this being for the money, but rather for the "perceived" boost to their schedule strength. If they can schedule another conference team and call it non-conference, some of these teams may start to go that route. I do totally understand why these two teams did this though. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,357 Status: Offline     RE: Who sees Ohio doing this in the future?    Posted: 1/27/2015 11:56:30 AM  I really don't see this being widespread. B12 has each team playing everybody else in the conference. Pac-12 is already playing a 9-game conference schedule, and SEC will soon follow, so they'll be able to handle rivalries. B10 is able to accommodate nearly all the old rivalries with an 8-game schedule. This looks like an anomaly. I think we have more concern over them scheduling fewer G5 teams in favor of adding more OOC snob-conference teams. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top OUcats82 General User Member Since: 1/9/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,874 Status: Offline     RE: Who sees Ohio doing this in the future?    Posted: 1/29/2015 10:45:19 AM  Pataskala wrote: I really don't see this being widespread. B12 has each team playing everybody else in the conference. Pac-12 is already playing a 9-game conference schedule, and SEC will soon follow, so they'll be able to handle rivalries. B10 is able to accommodate nearly all the old rivalries with an 8-game schedule. This looks like an anomaly. I think we have more concern over them scheduling fewer G5 teams in favor of adding more OOC snob-conference teams. That is an interesting point you raise about schools wanting to go almost all P5 instead of G5. I wonder what the economic fallout might be for smaller schools who are heavily dependent on "money games" to make ends meet. Will they now need to look elsewhere? There was an extreme example a few years back where Savannah State played a murderers row because I think they needed the cash and the P5 schools were willing to schedule. I don't see that happening anymore. Where Florida State or Alabama might have played Murray State or Austin Peay, maybe now they will go more for BG, Tulane, or even a historically weak P5 like Wazzu or Indiana. I think it will be mostly business as usual for the back half of P5 schools who know that they will still want to just get wins any way they can. Ohio-The State University Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,482 Status: Offline     RE: Who sees Ohio doing this in the future?    Posted: 1/29/2015 12:48:43 PM  OUcats82 wrote: ...Where Florida State or Alabama might have played Murray State or Austin Peay, maybe now they will go more for BG, Tulane, or even a historically weak P5 like Wazzu or Indiana. I think it will be mostly business as usual for the back half of P5 schools who know that they will still want to just get wins any way they can. You raise a great point. It seems likely that the FCS schools will take a major hit. A win over BG or Tulane may not help Alabama much, but it will still mean much more than a win over Murray State or Tennessee Tech. I can easily imagine the P5 schools reducing or eliminating FCS games, but still wanting/needing 7-8 home games, and thus continuing to buy G5 games. If this is right, and I suspect it is, now that I think about it, the G5 schools will end up about where they are. They will still be able to get paydays from money games, but they will have some extra expenses from increasing the scholarships to cover out of pocket expenses. Meanwhile the FCS schools will really get hit hard, losing most of their big money game deals with P5. There will still be a few money games paid for by G5 teams like Ohio, but there will be a lot more teams looking for them than there are G5 teams buying games, so the price could very easily fall. We've seen a huge rush of schools in recent years trying to escape FCS, where the economics have all the negatives of Division I without any of the positives. That seems likely to increase. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 8  of 8 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 190 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 190 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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