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Topic:  RE: Dispatch article on lower attendance at games
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TWT
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  Message Not Read  RE: Dispatch article on lower attendance at games
   Posted: 9/28/2014 4:46:15 PM 
One cheaper option would be to enlarge Victory Hill in a way that you could get another 2,000 or so in the stadium for high demand games. Another idea I have by the touchdown club is to sell a premium lawn seat where for $40 dollars or so you could have access to the touchdown club concessions and could sit on the lawn around the new academic center. The lawn may have to be redesigned to make it functional to support a crowd but with the new bathrooms they are putting in there it makes sense. The issue I see with adding more permanent seats to the stadium are as some have mentioned those mid week games which are going to be here to stay. If we start hitting 22,000 for Midweek games while overflow on the weekends then its time to put some more seats in.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Dispatch article on lower attendance at games
   Posted: 9/28/2014 4:46:35 PM 
I'll preface this by saying I realize this is just pie in the sky fantasy talk, but if Peden were to be rebuilt to a capacity somewhere around 30K-35K while maintaining its current shape (but properly connecting the endzone pieces of course) would there be enough room between the east side stands and the IPF to add a second tier at a later date?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Dispatch article on lower attendance at games
   Posted: 9/28/2014 4:50:32 PM 
L.C. wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Yesterday was 99% capacity with a crowd of over 23,000, we are averaging over capacity through our 1st two games! We need to expand now! How else will we get into a bigger conference where we belong?

While the sarcasm is thick here, the point is valid. Most likely the opportunity to move to a "bigger conference" will never come, but if it does, such a conference would require the addition of more seats. The point that I was trying to make above was not that seats should be added now (unless the cost was very low), but rather that changes being made anyway, like the academic center, should be done in a way that would be friendly to future expansion, just in case it was needed.


If you consider the AAC or CUSA bigger conferences more seats won't be required. They have schools with 25,000 seat stadiums.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Dispatch article on lower attendance at games
   Posted: 9/28/2014 7:47:47 PM 
Does anyone propose adding more good seats? Our stadium is too small to consider adding more shi++y seats in the endzones. What's the point of that?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Dispatch article on lower attendance at games
   Posted: 9/29/2014 9:45:58 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
Added thought: It's mind blowing to me that universities charge their students $235 to $280 to go to 5-6 home games.


We charge way more than that - way more than that. Here's the math - an all sports pass for those sports that charge other than football and men's basketball is $40. Add to that a Hoops action pack for $60 and $98 for a season football ticket, and that's only $198 to be able to see every game in every sport. The athletics portion of the student fee is many times that.


I was referencing students only. But the fee side of it isn't something I'd considered. I wonder what, if any fees, are charged at other schools that also charge a lot for tickets?


Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
Does anyone propose adding more good seats? Our stadium is too small to consider adding more shi++y seats in the endzones. What's the point of that?


This brings attention to the idea that the concessions/restrooms need upgraded first. My thought has always been to either demolish, or gut the underside of the student section side of the stadium when a true second deck is warranted.

Last Edited: 9/29/2014 9:57:27 AM by OU_Country

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  Message Not Read  RE: Dispatch article on lower attendance at games
   Posted: 9/29/2014 10:01:29 AM 
perimeterpost wrote:
I'll preface this by saying I realize this is just pie in the sky fantasy talk, but if Peden were to be rebuilt to a capacity somewhere around 30K-35K while maintaining its current shape (but properly connecting the endzone pieces of course) would there be enough room between the east side stands and the IPF to add a second tier at a later date?


Depending on how big you want that section to be, the light poles would need to be moved. As it is now, it looks like there is about a 25 foot gap between the end of the east stands and the light poles, which should be enough room to add a second deck. The architectural question I have is how would people get to that second deck? At the bottom of that gap is a driveway for deliveries, buses, etc.

I've always thought that if they want to add to the east stands, the current back walls could be demolished and another 12-15 rows could be added before the light poles are reached.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Dispatch article on lower attendance at games
   Posted: 9/29/2014 10:11:50 AM 
If any addition to Peden is made, it's going to have to be on the Victory Hill side. It's the only side that makes sense now that the Academic Center plans are underway. Flatten the hill, take down the old scoreboard, and build stands parallel with the back of the end zone with a bright and shiny new scoreboard attached to the top.

As much as I would like a second deck or to enclose the other side of the stadium, in my not-so-much of an architect opinion, the only one that works is Victory Hill.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Dispatch article on lower attendance at games
   Posted: 9/29/2014 4:29:36 PM 
Back in the Good Old Days victory hill had bleachers that were usually packed by students. Basically they got rid of those bleachers for the two additions on the other end of the field. I think the bleachers probably sat 3000 or so.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Dispatch article on lower attendance at games
   Posted: 9/29/2014 4:37:57 PM 
Casper71 wrote:
Back in the Good Old Days victory hill had bleachers that were usually packed by students. Basically they got rid of those bleachers for the two additions on the other end of the field. I think the bleachers probably sat 3000 or so.


I sat there for the VaTech game in the early '70s. Almost like the Dawg Pound.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Dispatch article on lower attendance at games
   Posted: 9/29/2014 6:11:34 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
If any addition to Peden is made, it's going to have to be on the Victory Hill side. It's the only side that makes sense now that the Academic Center plans are underway. Flatten the hill, take down the old scoreboard, and build stands parallel with the back of the end zone with a bright and shiny new scoreboard attached to the top.

As much as I would like a second deck or to enclose the other side of the stadium, in my not-so-much of an architect opinion, the only one that works is Victory Hill.


I hope we never build on victory hill, it would be a shame to block the scenic view to add seats that would be the last ones sold.


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