BobcatAttack.com - For Fans of Ohio University Sports

Welcome Guest!
Create an Account

site search

about us

advertise with us

help

BobcatAttack.com Message Board

Ohio Football

Topic: UAB to Drop Football

Topic: UAB to Drop Football

Author

Message

TWT
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Alexandria, VA
Post Count: 5,156

Status: Offline

UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 11/30/2014 3:16:32 PM

Head Coach says its all but official. I'm not sure if this is for next season or what but it sounds definite.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11959176/u...

Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended
2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round
2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl
2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086

TWT
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Alexandria, VA
Post Count: 5,156

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 11/30/2014 3:22:32 PM

"With UAB's football future hanging in the balance, a person close to the decision-making process told USA TODAY Sports that athletics director Brian Mackin has given indications the program will shut down this week and that Mackin is working on a separation agreement from the university."

"Barring a last-minute reversal in the decision-making process, it's unclear what shutting down football would mean for UAB's athletic future. Another person with direct knowledge of Conference USA matters told USA TODAY Sports that the league's commissioner, Britton Banowsky, did not have enough support among school presidents to keep UAB in the league without football."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2014/11/30/uab...

Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended
2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round
2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl
2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086

Victory
General User

Member Since: 3/10/2012
Post Count: 2,297

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 11/30/2014 7:27:08 PM

If they had done this last year I have to figure the A10 would have wanted UAB. The A10 added Davidson to get back to an even number. Maybe the MVC will take UAB. It is stretching far south for the MVC or Horizon to take them and far West for the Colonial. If they drop football to have more money for the rest of the University and presumably some for the rest of the Athletic Department then where do the rest of the sports go? A UAB basketball program at the level its been at wouldn't really fit in a conference like the Atlantic Sun or Southern or OVC.

We have seen how off balance a number 13 is. A conference can make 8. 9, 10, 11, 12, or 14 work but 13 is just messy. Maybe CUSA will add another school after they kick UAB out.

OUcats82
General User

Member Since: 1/9/2005
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Post Count: 1,877

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 11/30/2014 7:35:24 PM

Sunbelt maybe? I believe they have some non-football members.

Ohio-The State University

Pete Chouteau
General User

Member Since: 11/17/2004
Location: You Can't See Me
Post Count: 1,655

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 11/30/2014 7:35:57 PM

They'd fit in the new Big East.

Pataskala
General User

Member Since: 7/8/2010
Location: At least six feet away from anybody else
Post Count: 9,361

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 11/30/2014 9:57:54 PM

Summit. It's already spread out and they have an odd number of teams.

We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

Andrew Ruck
General User

Member Since: 12/22/2004
Location: Columbus, OH
Post Count: 5,196

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 12:31:35 AM

OK, I'll ask. Would Conference USA look at Ohio as a candidate to replace UAB? Would Ohio be interested?

Andrew Ruck
B.B.A. 2003

GoCats105
General User

Member Since: 1/31/2006
Location: Seattle, WA
Post Count: 7,418

Status: Online

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 7:41:19 AM

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-f...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solom...

That 2nd link shows a list of schools currently operating at a deficit. Ohio is on there. I wonder if that list takes into account the student fees?

Pete Chouteau
General User

Member Since: 11/17/2004
Location: You Can't See Me
Post Count: 1,655

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 8:28:42 AM

I think Conference USA would be interested in Akron, Buffalo, NIU, or Toledo before Ohio.

MedinaCat
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Lakewood, OH
Post Count: 743

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 8:39:28 AM

GoCats105 wrote:

So every MAC school save NIU is on the list. Some feel dropping a division would fix things, but I'd like to see the list of schools playing FCS(D1-AA) football that are operating at a loss as well. Anyone know what our subsidy rate is or where one can find it?

JSF
General User

Member Since: 1/29/2005
Location: Houston, TX
Post Count: 6,549

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 9:35:34 AM

I applaud this decision.

"Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season.

My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8

cc-cat
General User

Member Since: 4/5/2006
Location: matthews, NC
Post Count: 3,947

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 9:46:21 AM

JSF wrote:

I applaud this decision.

If it were a straight business decision on the part of the university I would agree. But the politics and personal vendettas behind the decision run deep.

BillyTheCat
General User

Member Since: 10/6/2012
Post Count: 10,378

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 10:26:47 AM

MedinaCat wrote:

GoCats105 wrote:

I believe there was an article a few years ago that had OHIO as the most subsidized program in America. I'm sure someone still has that link.

colobobcat66
General User

Member Since: 9/1/2006
Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO
Post Count: 4,542

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 10:36:57 AM

Pete Chouteau wrote:

I think Conference USA would be interested in Akron, Buffalo, NIU, or Toledo before Ohio.

Based on city size which is big to them or what?

OhioCatFan
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Athens, OH
Post Count: 14,723

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 10:45:10 AM

colobobcat66 wrote:

Pete Chouteau wrote:

I think Conference USA would be interested in Akron, Buffalo, NIU, or Toledo before Ohio.

Based on city size which is big to them or what?

C-USA is trying to setup good rivals for each school. Ohio would be a natural choice in that regard. However, C-USA as it is now, is too "southern" for my liking. If they somehow managed to add Ohio, Akron and Toledo together, I might be more interested. However, as has been stated here, I don't think the powers-that-be care what I think, or even what Jeff McKinney thinks, as hard as that might be to contemplate. ;-)

The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA

"It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right."

Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org

Ohio69
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Post Count: 3,061

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 6:16:49 PM

So, it will be interesting to see if enrollment or annual giving is impacted negatively. I'm guessing they never had much annual giving to begin with, but what do I know?

Who was the last division I team to give up? I know several I-AA/FCS schools have done so in the last 10-15 years.

We still have any scholarships open?

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

Victory
General User

Member Since: 3/10/2012
Post Count: 2,297

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 6:50:26 PM

Ohio69 wrote:

It was Pacific in the old Big West 1A football confernce in about 1994. I think it was Cal State Fullerton dropped from the Big West 3 or 4 years earlier.

catfan28
General User

Member Since: 6/11/2011
Location: Athens, OH
Post Count: 1,503

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 7:41:02 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

I believe there was an article a few years ago that had OHIO as the most subsidized program in America. I'm sure someone still has that link.

Exaggeration much? The article cited here proves that isn't true.

And NIU should be on the list, clearly they are subsidized by student fees too. Not sure why they are not...unless they just didn't provide any information.

catfan28
General User

Member Since: 6/11/2011
Location: Athens, OH
Post Count: 1,503

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 7:43:35 PM

JSF wrote:

I applaud this decision.

You may like the outcome, but do you truly applaud the process? If we were under O$U's board of trustees and they railroaded our university at every opportunity, I hope you wouldn't be applauding it. Read more into the story. It's about much more than football. UAB has been held back by the Alabama-centric board for decades. It's absolutely sickening.

shabamon
General User

Member Since: 11/17/2006
Location: Cincinnati
Post Count: 6,830

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 8:39:35 PM

Ohio69 wrote:

So, it will be interesting to see if enrollment or annual giving is impacted negatively.

Yes, absolutely will enrollment be affected negatively or they will have to adjust their pitch or programming keep the numbers they are used to. Take it from a guy who has stood behind the Ohio University table at college fairs. Division 1 football legitimizes your school to a lot of prospective students.

UpSan Bobcat
General User

Member Since: 8/30/2005
Location: Upper Sandusky, OH
Post Count: 3,812

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 9:00:28 PM

catfan28 wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

I believe there was an article a few years ago that had OHIO as the most subsidized program in America. I'm sure someone still has that link.

The list just shows schools that spend more money on football than they make on it, and the difference. Where the money comes from to make up the difference can vary.

catfan28
General User

Member Since: 6/11/2011
Location: Athens, OH
Post Count: 1,503

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 9:48:04 PM

Using the term deficit = subsidy. How else are they covering the deficit? Whether it's via student fees or tuition $$$...same thing.

Last Edited: 12/1/2014 9:48:40 PM by catfan28

Alan Swank
General User

Member Since: 12/11/2004
Location: Athens, OH
Post Count: 7,203

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 10:09:32 PM

http://collegead.org/college-athletic-department-budgets/

BillyTheCat
General User

Member Since: 10/6/2012
Post Count: 10,378

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 10:24:57 PM

catfan28 wrote:

Using the term deficit = subsidy. How else are they covering the deficit? Whether it's via student fees or tuition $$$...same thing.

Deficit does not equal subsidy!,,

BillyTheCat
General User

Member Since: 10/6/2012
Post Count: 10,378

Status: Offline

RE: UAB to Drop Football

Posted: 12/1/2014 10:27:14 PM

[QUOTE=Alan Swank]http://collegead.org/college-athletic-department-budgets/...]

Great link Alan! Do you have that going back a few years. We are clearly in the upper 25th %. But seems we are getting better.

Showing Replies:	1 - 25 of 94 Posts
Jump to Page:	1 \| 2 \| 3 \| 4 Next >

View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics

There are 197 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com

195 Guests
2 Registered Users:
	oldkatz, GoCats105

There are no other users looking at this page.