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He was making comments about the Rutgers situation with the arrest/expulsion of several current and former palyers as well as the arrest/suspension the reinstatment of their top reciever. Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,481 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/13/2015 10:00:33 PM  rpbobcat wrote: Don't know about Ohio,but Vedder has been interviewed on the N.Y.C. CBS News radio station quite a bit lately. He was making comments about the Rutgers situation with the arrest/expulsion of several current and former palyers as well as the arrest/suspension the reinstatment of their top reciever. So now he's a NYC tool for Jersey bashing also? RS Bobcat Back to Top Panda General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Post Count: 280 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/14/2015 2:17:33 PM  What does Vedder know about Rutgers other than what everyone else reads. Anytime he can get ink or radio time he will make himself as an authentic source. This has been his history for many years. Panda Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,546 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/14/2015 2:59:31 PM  Panda wrote: What does Vedder know about Rutgers other than what everyone else reads. Anytime he can get ink or radio time he will make himself as an authentic source. This has been his history for many years. I I'm sure the reporter reached out to him based on his expertise. Nothing unusual about that. And what he says has a great deal of of validity, frankly. Our priorities are all screwed up in higher education. Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 5,698 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/14/2015 4:45:06 PM  Meanwhile, another Vedder seems to be enjoying life a whole lot more. http://www.stereogum.com/1837335/eddie-vedder-celebrates-... / Sorry Cards. Back to Top WishIWasAtLuckys General User Member Since: 7/31/2014 Post Count: 160 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/14/2015 5:14:06 PM  I love Bobcats sports as much as the next guy but what he has to say about higher-education costs is not wrong. Rich is also hilarious and good for the soul. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,707 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/15/2015 11:23:57 AM  SBH wrote: Panda wrote: What does Vedder know about Rutgers other than what everyone else reads. Anytime he can get ink or radio time he will make himself as an authentic source. This has been his history for many years. I I'm sure the reporter reached out to him based on his expertise. Nothing unusual about that. And what he says has a great deal of of validity, frankly. Our priorities are all screwed up in higher education. + 1 Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,322 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/15/2015 11:52:23 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: SBH wrote: Panda wrote: What does Vedder know about Rutgers other than what everyone else reads. Anytime he can get ink or radio time he will make himself as an authentic source. This has been his history for many years. I I'm sure the reporter reached out to him based on his expertise. Nothing unusual about that. And what he says has a great deal of of validity, frankly. Our priorities are all screwed up in higher education. + 1 The problem is that too many posters get the message confused with the messenger. Many folks have some very good things to say but other folks just can't get by who is saying it. Back to Top jpmo General User Member Since: 12/14/2005 Post Count: 61 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/15/2015 2:12:44 PM  In response to Panda... Not sure what you mean by saying "...trying to make himself an authentic source." The man has done a huge amount of research on the cost of higher education that goes back many years. He is constantly sought out for his views. I also think he knows a bit more about the athletics situation at Rutgers than you think. Let me do your research for you... http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2015/04/02/losing-at-a-d... / Last Edited: 10/15/2015 2:13:50 PM by jpmo You don't have to outrun the bear...just the other guy. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/15/2015 2:17:21 PM  Alan Swank wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: SBH wrote: Panda wrote: What does Vedder know about Rutgers other than what everyone else reads. Anytime he can get ink or radio time he will make himself as an authentic source. This has been his history for many years. I I'm sure the reporter reached out to him based on his expertise. Nothing unusual about that. And what he says has a great deal of of validity, frankly. Our priorities are all screwed up in higher education. + 1 The problem is that too many posters get the message confused with the messenger. Many folks have some very good things to say but other folks just can't get by who is saying it. Seriously? On the threads on this website? Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,744 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/16/2015 8:57:21 AM  Monroe Slavin wrote: Alan Swank wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: SBH wrote: Panda wrote: What does Vedder know about Rutgers other than what everyone else reads. Anytime he can get ink or radio time he will make himself as an authentic source. This has been his history for many years. I I'm sure the reporter reached out to him based on his expertise. Nothing unusual about that. And what he says has a great deal of of validity, frankly. Our priorities are all screwed up in higher education. + 1 The problem is that too many posters get the message confused with the messenger. Many folks have some very good things to say but other folks just can't get by who is saying it. Seriously? On the threads on this website? I would just say that there are different ways to present a message and some people have not figured that out yet. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/16/2015 10:38:42 AM  This board is boring, dull, dull, dull without opinions that are different from the mainstream. That some are rigid in their thinking and can't conceive of viewpoints other than their own--especially when the facts don't support their viewpoint, well, I'm not taking any blame for that. I suppose if I post at great length with somewhat made up numbers according to criteria which I choose..and which don't prove much..then I'd be okay with most here. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,161 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/16/2015 12:27:30 PM  We have to ask what presuppositions people bring to their analysis and discussions. Part of this is a matter of values...those who support athletics have an emotional commitment to college sports because it helps create a sense of identify and also it's just entertaining. We also point to some data suggesting benefits to universities. Rich Vedder brings a different set of values to his analysis. He's entirely concerned with a rational approach to creating value in the private and public sectors. He thinks the costs of financing collegiate athletics exceeds the value created. He just has a different set of values. So, his conclusions based on his values may be rational, but some of us will still disagree because we bring different values. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,707 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/16/2015 12:40:20 PM  Jeff, as cost has escalated the way they have the past 20 years, Dr. Vedder's view becomes more relevant to many. I love my sports, but there is a tipping point. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,322 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/16/2015 12:59:01 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: Jeff, as cost has escalated the way they have the past 20 years, Dr. Vedder's view becomes more relevant to many. I love my sports, but there is a tipping point. Many great colleges and universities have continued to grow and prosper without buying into the big time college athletics model. When a college is identified by it's sports teams first I'd say that school is past the tipping point of what college is supposed to be about. Take osu for example. If you played word association with the man on the street and you said ohio state chances are that they would say football. If that's what you want, fine. But if I said OU I'd hope the other person would say something non-sports related and certainly something other than party school. As to what they would say, I'm not sure. Back to Top Paul Graham General User Member Since: 1/18/2005 Location: The Plains, OH Post Count: 1,424 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/16/2015 2:12:16 PM  BTW, If anyone has Netflix they might want to check out "Schooled: The Price of College Sports." It raises some interesting moral/financial/legal questions around college athletics. Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,744 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/16/2015 5:42:39 PM  Monroe Slavin wrote: This board is boring, dull, dull, dull without opinions that are different from the mainstream. That some are rigid in their thinking and can't conceive of viewpoints other than their own--especially when the facts don't support their viewpoint, well, I'm not taking any blame for that. I suppose if I post at great length with somewhat made up numbers according to criteria which I choose..and which don't prove much..then I'd be okay with most here. Some of your posts are dull and boring, perhaps you might try a different communication technique that might get through to some of us Neanderthals, but neither thing is likely. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/16/2015 10:52:43 PM  colobobcat66 wrote: Monroe Slavin wrote: This board is boring, dull, dull, dull without opinions that are different from the mainstream. That some are rigid in their thinking and can't conceive of viewpoints other than their own--especially when the facts don't support their viewpoint, well, I'm not taking any blame for that. I suppose if I post at great length with somewhat made up numbers according to criteria which I choose..and which don't prove much..then I'd be okay with most here. Some of your posts are dull and boring, perhaps you might try a different communication technique that might get through to some of us Neanderthals, but neither thing is likely. Good call. This board needs a little spice and vitriol to offset the general boringosity from almost all speaking in the same voice. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,481 Status: Offline     RE: Richard Vedder    Posted: 10/16/2015 11:13:07 PM  colobobcat66 wrote: Monroe Slavin wrote: This board is boring, dull, dull, dull without opinions that are different from the mainstream. That some are rigid in their thinking and can't conceive of viewpoints other than their own--especially when the facts don't support their viewpoint, well, I'm not taking any blame for that. I suppose if I post at great length with somewhat made up numbers according to criteria which I choose..and which don't prove much..then I'd be okay with most here. Some of your posts are dull and boring, perhaps you might try a different communication technique that might get through to some of us Neanderthals, but neither thing is likely. The sometimes incomprehensible, and often stream of consciousness/psychedelic/beat posts (albeit often knee-jerk, rote, and abbreviated) have kinda grown on me. The Kerouac/Burroughs of BA....... Our "Jane" ("you ignorant slut") for all the "Dan's" also - Who was right more often - Jane or Dan? 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