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Author Message Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,074 Status: Offline     Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/15/2025 9:13:06 AM  Should Bobcat1996 be banned?   Yes No No, but a temporary suspension   Please Register or Login to Vote   Show Results Question is self-explanatory. I've never advocated for this with any other user in an embarrassingly long time on this board. But Bobcat1996 is making the board unreadable and turning every thread into the same -- literally exactly the same -- conversation about Albin and Cromer. People have tried to engage, addressed every question he's posed, and he poses the exact same questions multiple times a week. It seems irrelevant to me whether he's trolling, stupid, unwell, or what. He adds no value, and degrades the quality of discussion here in a way nobody else even approaches. Thoughts? Back to Top Taiwan BC General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Kaohsiung Post Count: 517 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/15/2025 10:29:14 AM  I voted no. I think he deserves some leeway. It's obvious the dude bleeds green. He's not broken any rules of the board, has he? I would urge him to try and be aware that not every thread is the place to air his grievances on the football coaching side of things. Just my two cents. Go Bobcats! Back to Top Kevin Finnegan General User Member Since: 2/4/2005 Location: Rockton, IL Post Count: 1,163 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/15/2025 10:39:55 AM  While I'd vote no for now as well, I cannot agree that Bobcat1996 bleeds green. In nearly every post, there is direct bashing of the AD and often indirect (though sometimes direct) trashing of Coach Boals. Boals is an alum who has found some success here as a coach and has always been a great ambassador of the university. I cannot believe that someone who is a true Bobcat would want to so openly disparage him on nearly every thread. He/she went into multiple complaints about Boals in a thread about the football schedule. Doesn't make any sense. I do really wish Bobcat1996 could get a course in what is fact and what is opinion. Constantly, 1996 says you can't handle the facts that I'm bringing you when often they're conjecture, assumptions, or opinions, but rarely facts. Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 5,417 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/15/2025 10:42:50 AM  I voted no. What I would like to see is other BA posters show the will power to ignore his ad nauseum posts. If we're lucky, that would have the same effect of a ban. Back to Top greencat General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 2,554 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/15/2025 10:57:26 AM  I voted "no" - but not because I agree or disagree with anything he posts, but because as debated last year, my preference would be an "ignore" button like 99% of sports forums have. That way anybody that anyone gets sick of, simple hit the button and no longer see their posts. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,267 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/15/2025 11:09:21 AM  Brooke Albin will eventually move on when/if Timmy wins a few games in Charlotte. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,074 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/15/2025 12:57:12 PM  Kevin Finnegan wrote: While I'd vote no for now as well, I cannot agree that Bobcat1996 bleeds green. In nearly every post, there is direct bashing of the AD and often indirect (though sometimes direct) trashing of Coach Boals. Boals is an alum who has found some success here as a coach and has always been a great ambassador of the university. I cannot believe that someone who is a true Bobcat would want to so openly disparage him on nearly every thread. He/she went into multiple complaints about Boals in a thread about the football schedule. Doesn't make any sense. I think it's perfectly reasonable to critique Boals' performance to-date. I've done so myself. 1996 isn't doing so in good faith though; he uses Boals' and the women's basketball coach as a strawman and pretends anybody who disagrees with him about Albin most automatically be pleased with Boals' performance and every other decision the AD has made. In reality, this past basketball season there was a lot of frustration with Boals' and discussion of whether he was on the hot seat. The general consensus is that this coming season is a very, very important one for Boals'. But 1996 ignores that and argues everything as zero sum. There's no actual discussion, no nuance, just the same posts over and over directed at nobody. Back to Top Pete Chouteau General User Member Since: 11/17/2004 Location: You Can't See Me Post Count: 1,659 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/15/2025 4:54:15 PM  No. But I'd chip in for an ignore button. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,267 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/15/2025 8:28:19 PM  Many are saying he should deported. Back to Top Bobcat1996 General User Member Since: 1/2/2017 Post Count: 1,096 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/15/2025 9:48:56 PM  SBH wrote: Brooke Albin will eventually move on when/if Timmy wins a few games in Charlotte. SBH- you make me laugh! I have told you many times, I am not related to Coach Albin. However, you are permitted to criticize and berate me when you disagree with the facts I give you. I'm guessing you spread this baloney to your students if you are still in the education business? You continue to bash Coach Albin, who by the way is the most successful football coach in the last 55 years in Athens. Can we say that about Boals? Can we say that about the womens coach who you continue to support? The records speak for themselves. Should you be banned from this board for delivering baloney about how the administration can do no wrong? Is this board a "good ole boys" board where only you and your like minded friends are allowed to participate? Last Edited: 7/15/2025 9:54:07 PM by Bobcat1996 Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,074 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/15/2025 10:33:55 PM  Bobcat1996 wrote: Is this board a "good ole boys" board where only you and your like minded friends are allowed to participate? I'm the one who started this thread, not SBH. I explained why, and I stand by it. You've made this board substantially worse, and it's not about your opinion, it's because of how you state it and state nothing else. Back to Top cbarber357 General User Member Since: 9/9/2012 Location: Pickerington, OH Post Count: 952 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/15/2025 11:49:36 PM  Bobcat1996 wrote: SBH wrote: Brooke Albin will eventually move on when/if Timmy wins a few games in Charlotte. SBH- you make me laugh! I have told you many times, I am not related to Coach Albin. If you aren’t ACTUALLY related to him, you’re going to have a hard time convincing me that you haven’t photoshopped yourself into some Albin family photos. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 2,834 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/16/2025 9:12:18 AM  cbarber357 wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: SBH wrote: Brooke Albin will eventually move on when/if Timmy wins a few games in Charlotte. SBH- you make me laugh! I have told you many times, I am not related to Coach Albin. If you aren’t ACTUALLY related to him, you’re going to have a hard time convincing me that you haven’t photoshopped yourself into some Albin family photos. He's the family dog Back to Top BobcatBurner General User Member Since: 4/12/2025 Post Count: 58 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/16/2025 9:17:25 AM  Bobcat1996 wrote: SBH wrote: Brooke Albin will eventually move on when/if Timmy wins a few games in Charlotte. SBH- you make me laugh! I have told you many times, I am not related to Coach Albin. However, you are permitted to criticize and berate me when you disagree with the facts I give you. I'm guessing you spread this baloney to your students if you are still in the education business? You continue to bash Coach Albin, who by the way is the most successful football coach in the last 55 years in Athens. Can we say that about Boals? Can we say that about the womens coach who you continue to support? The records speak for themselves. Should you be banned from this board for delivering baloney about how the administration can do no wrong? Is this board a "good ole boys" board where only you and your like minded friends are allowed to participate? He did the bit in a thread about himself. What a loser. Back to Top mid70sbobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 749 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/16/2025 10:24:45 AM  I vote he should (1) get a temporary suspension (2) get some counseling (3) learn the difference between facts and opinions and (4) have any post that is essentially a cut and paste of prior drivel deleted (which would remove 95% of his posts). I guess if we get bored, we can go back and compare Jim Snyder with Bill Hess and determine, who, if either, was overpaid based on current salary, win-loss percentages and then throw in some cherry-picked other coaches just like Mr. 1996 does. Then we can criticize Bill Rohr, or maybe not, since he's not female. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,754 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/16/2025 10:36:26 AM  Another "no" voted for free speech. Heck, I've been advocating to bring Monroe back. Wouldn't head-to-head competition between the two them be fun to watch? The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top cbarber357 General User Member Since: 9/9/2012 Location: Pickerington, OH Post Count: 952 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/16/2025 12:05:20 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Another "no" voted for free speech. Heck, I've been advocating to bring Monroe back. Wouldn't head-to-head competition between the two them be fun to watch? One could argue that their continued smearing of the first Athletic Director to oversee a MAC title on the football field in half a century is defamation, so not protected free speech. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,074 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/16/2025 12:46:10 PM  From the Posting Policy published here defining inappropriate posts: -- "Baiting (responding to relevant post with non-relevant, flame post)" -- "Any rumor spreading, however implicit, regarding legal issues (where charges have not been filed) or personal lives of athletes or coaches." Bobcat1996 has posted the same thing -- more or less word for word -- in dozens of threads, whether relevant or not. Seems pretty clear that's 'Baiting.' He also has publicly accused Julie Cromer of sexism without any basis or support for his stance and stated that she fails to treat her employees with dignity. That feels an awful lot like rumor spreading to me. At minimum, it's classless and cowardly. Either way, the quality around here would improve if he either 1) were gone or 2) were capable of turning the page on Albin and his feelings about Cromer. Back to Top IceCat76 General User Member Since: 12/5/2016 Location: Byfield, MA Post Count: 278 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/16/2025 1:01:00 PM  Pete Chouteau wrote: No. But I'd chip in for an ignore button. +1 Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,218 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/16/2025 3:45:18 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: From the Posting Policy published here defining inappropriate posts: -- "Baiting (responding to relevant post with non-relevant, flame post)" -- "Any rumor spreading, however implicit, regarding legal issues (where charges have not been filed) or personal lives of athletes or coaches." Bobcat1996 has posted the same thing -- more or less word for word -- in dozens of threads, whether relevant or not. Seems pretty clear that's 'Baiting.' He also has publicly accused Julie Cromer of sexism without any basis or support for his stance and stated that she fails to treat her employees with dignity. That feels an awful lot like rumor spreading to me. At minimum, it's classless and cowardly. Either way, the quality around here would improve if he either 1) were gone or 2) were capable of turning the page on Albin and his feelings about Cromer. What would improve the quality would be for posters to use their real names. Back to Top ShoreCat General User Member Since: 3/10/2011 Location: Avon Lake, OH Post Count: 218 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/17/2025 1:56:15 PM  I voted no but would rather Bobcat1996 be forced to reveal his/her true identity. If those comments about the current AD are going to continue, stand by them and reveal yourself. Don't be an internet tough guy/gal and post knowing that your true identify won't be revealed. I would be interested if that happened if those types of posts would continue. I'm guessing not. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,754 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/17/2025 2:47:42 PM  cbarber357 wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: Another "no" voted for free speech. Heck, I've been advocating to bring Monroe back. Wouldn't head-to-head competition between the two them be fun to watch? One could argue that their continued smearing of the first Athletic Director to oversee a MAC title on the football field in half a century is defamation, so not protected free speech. Depends on whether the AD is a public figure under Times v. Sullivan and its progeny. Though there are signs the current SCOTUS is posed to lessen the bar for the proof of defamation when public figures are involved, it’s always difficult to predict these things. It seems to me that one likely possibility is the narrowing of the category of those covered by Times. At first it was just elected pubic officials, then it got expanded in many subsequent rulings to what some justices, in dissent, thought ridiculous lengths. I remember one dissent that called the current state of affairs “bootstrap” logic. What he meant as that any newsworthy event focusing on a particular person made that person a “public figure” and therefore covered under the Times doctrine that requires proof not only of defamation, per se, but that the person being sued either knew the statements were false or had reckless disregard for their truth or falsity. As of right now, Bobcat1996 is likely protected as a good defense attorney could probably successfully argue that Julie would qualify as a public figure under the current loose definition. I just put the question of university administrators being covered under Times to my favorite AI Bot, who should not be confused with an actual lawyer (nor should I): “Yes, university presidents and athletic directors can be considered public figures under the New York Times Co. v. Sullivan standard. This ruling established that public figures, including those in prominent positions within public institutions, must meet a higher burden of proof in defamation cases. Since university presidents and athletic directors often engage in public discourse, make decisions that affect the university community, and are frequently covered by the media, they are seen as having voluntarily entered the public arena. As a result, if they are defamed, they would need to demonstrate ‘actual malice’ —that the false statement was made with knowledge of its falsity or with reckless disregard for the truth. This classification helps protect free speech while balancing the need for accountability for false statements about individuals in positions of authority.” Last Edited: 7/17/2025 2:52:34 PM by OhioCatFan The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,074 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/17/2025 2:57:03 PM  Yeah, it's not defamation. It's just cowardly. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,754 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/17/2025 3:14:31 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Yeah, it's not defamation. It's just cowardly. On this I agree. I know I’ve not been her biggest fan, and I’ve even agreed with a few of Bobcat1996’s statements about her, but I don’t harp on it 24/7. I’m also not paranoid about Tim getting a raw deal, when it’s clear TA acted rashly and is mostly to blame for what transpired at the end of last season. On a related issue, I would not be against a BA rule that would say that your real name had to be listed in your profile. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,218 Status: Offline     RE: Should Bobcat1996 be banned?    Posted: 7/17/2025 7:14:11 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Yeah, it's not defamation. It's just cowardly. How is it any more cowardly than posting comments and criticism under a handle? It's exactly the same thing. Say it, own it! 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