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Topic:  Revenue sharing and on field performance
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  Revenue sharing and on field performance
   Posted: 4/21/2025 1:18:56 PM 
This could have gone on football or basketball but with the upcoming football season, that seemed like the logical place to put it.

With the dawn of revenue sharing just around the corner, I'm wondering what effect directly paying players will have on fan expectations and comments. Hypothetically, let's say a player gets $10,000 and throws a couple interceptions or fumbles twice or misses a few tackles. Will the fact that they are getting paid fuel the ire of hypercritical fans and increase the vitriol we already see on social media posts? Will there be criticism that "we're not getting our money's worth" be heard far and wide? I don't have a crystal ball but I'm not real confident that this is going to be a good thing for college sports.
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Jeff McKinney
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  Message Not Read  RE: Revenue sharing and on field performance
   Posted: 4/21/2025 3:30:50 PM 
Your concerns make sense.
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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  RE: Revenue sharing and on field performance
   Posted: 4/21/2025 4:21:45 PM 
Also, a player who's suspended a game or two for violating team rules should be docked 1/12 of the revenue sharing amount for each game missed.

Alan's scenario raises an issue that has come up occasionally in pro ball. If the revenue sharing includes some sort of performance incentive (number of yards, tackles, etc.), might a coach of a cash-strapped team -- or if the player gets in the coach's doghouse -- hold a player out or pull him early in a game at the end of the season to avoid paying the incentive?


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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: Revenue sharing and on field performance
   Posted: 4/21/2025 5:26:40 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
Also, a player who's suspended a game or two for violating team rules should be docked 1/12 of the revenue sharing amount for each game missed.

Alan's scenario raises an issue that has come up occasionally in pro ball. If the revenue sharing includes some sort of performance incentive (number of yards, tackles, etc.), might a coach of a cash-strapped team -- or if the player gets in the coach's doghouse -- hold a player out or pull him early in a game at the end of the season to avoid paying the incentive?


In the pros, the revenue share dictates the percentage of revenue that must go to players pay, but does not actually dictate the individual pay. That's done by contracts. Contracts often have clauses about injuries and performance.

Similar set up with the NIL, I'm sure.
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BobcatBurner
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  Message Not Read  RE: Revenue sharing and on field performance
   Posted: 4/22/2025 11:02:05 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
This could have gone on football or basketball but with the upcoming football season, that seemed like the logical place to put it.

With the dawn of revenue sharing just around the corner, I'm wondering what effect directly paying players will have on fan expectations and comments. Hypothetically, let's say a player gets $10,000 and throws a couple interceptions or fumbles twice or misses a few tackles. Will the fact that they are getting paid fuel the ire of hypercritical fans and increase the vitriol we already see on social media posts? Will there be criticism that "we're not getting our money's worth" be heard far and wide? I don't have a crystal ball but I'm not real confident that this is going to be a good thing for college sports.


We already had losers on here making fun of MBB players (Wiz), what's the difference? At least they're getting paid while Billy The Cat makes fun of him.

Last Edited: 4/22/2025 11:19:20 AM by BobcatBurner

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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Revenue sharing and on field performance
   Posted: 4/22/2025 10:25:45 PM 
BobcatBurner wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
This could have gone on football or basketball but with the upcoming football season, that seemed like the logical place to put it.

With the dawn of revenue sharing just around the corner, I'm wondering what effect directly paying players will have on fan expectations and comments. Hypothetically, let's say a player gets $10,000 and throws a couple interceptions or fumbles twice or misses a few tackles. Will the fact that they are getting paid fuel the ire of hypercritical fans and increase the vitriol we already see on social media posts? Will there be criticism that "we're not getting our money's worth" be heard far and wide? I don't have a crystal ball but I'm not real confident that this is going to be a good thing for college sports.


We already had losers on here making fun of MBB players (Wiz), what's the difference? At least they're getting paid while Billy The Cat makes fun of him.


I’ll bet you $1,000 you can’t find a single post when I ever made fun of Wiz. Take your agenda and at least be truthful. $1,000 to the athlete of your choice if you can find where I ever made fun of Wiz.

Last Edited: 4/22/2025 10:26:08 PM by BillyTheCat

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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: Revenue sharing and on field performance
   Posted: 4/23/2025 6:01:37 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
BobcatBurner wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
This could have gone on football or basketball but with the upcoming football season, that seemed like the logical place to put it.

With the dawn of revenue sharing just around the corner, I'm wondering what effect directly paying players will have on fan expectations and comments. Hypothetically, let's say a player gets $10,000 and throws a couple interceptions or fumbles twice or misses a few tackles. Will the fact that they are getting paid fuel the ire of hypercritical fans and increase the vitriol we already see on social media posts? Will there be criticism that "we're not getting our money's worth" be heard far and wide? I don't have a crystal ball but I'm not real confident that this is going to be a good thing for college sports.


We already had losers on here making fun of MBB players (Wiz), what's the difference? At least they're getting paid while Billy The Cat makes fun of him.


I’ll bet you $1,000 you can’t find a single post when I ever made fun of Wiz. Take your agenda and at least be truthful. $1,000 to the athlete of your choice if you can find where I ever made fun of Wiz.


Amazing how a poster in less than two weeks has reviewed all of the posts you've made and come to the conclusion that you've bashed players.

Anyway, he missed my point that paying players may very well ratchet up the criticism of the player and those who paid them on boards like this and in pubs across America not to mention conversations in the dorms and rental houses of current students who are paying these players

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M.D.W.S.T
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  Message Not Read  RE: Revenue sharing and on field performance
   Posted: 4/24/2025 10:37:09 AM 
BobcatBurner wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
This could have gone on football or basketball but with the upcoming football season, that seemed like the logical place to put it.

With the dawn of revenue sharing just around the corner, I'm wondering what effect directly paying players will have on fan expectations and comments. Hypothetically, let's say a player gets $10,000 and throws a couple interceptions or fumbles twice or misses a few tackles. Will the fact that they are getting paid fuel the ire of hypercritical fans and increase the vitriol we already see on social media posts? Will there be criticism that "we're not getting our money's worth" be heard far and wide? I don't have a crystal ball but I'm not real confident that this is going to be a good thing for college sports.


We already had losers on here making fun of MBB players (Wiz), what's the difference? At least they're getting paid while Billy The Cat makes fun of him.


We're not allowed to be critical? You are calling people losers. That seems pretty hypocritical of you, Mrs Wiznitzer.
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Revenue sharing and on field performance
   Posted: 4/24/2025 12:49:14 PM 
Yes, Alan, they totally whiffed at your post. A post that does ask a legitimate question.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: Revenue sharing and on field performance
   Posted: 4/24/2025 2:30:58 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:


Anyway, he missed my point that paying players may very well ratchet up the criticism of the player and those who paid them on boards like this and in pubs across America not to mention conversations in the dorms and rental houses of current students who are paying these players



It may. It probably will, in fact. But if you think the criticisms aren't already pretty damn loud, you've missed his point. It's not hard to find a bunch of sports bettors publicly threatening players for their performances and the NCAA already did a study of abuse of players on social media: https://www.ncaa.org/news/2024/10/10/media-center-ncaa-ca...

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MiamiBlowsChunks
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  Message Not Read  RE: Revenue sharing and on field performance
   Posted: 4/24/2025 4:22:20 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
This could have gone on football or basketball but with the upcoming football season, that seemed like the logical place to put it.

With the dawn of revenue sharing just around the corner, I'm wondering what effect directly paying players will have on fan expectations and comments. Hypothetically, let's say a player gets $10,000 and throws a couple interceptions or fumbles twice or misses a few tackles. Will the fact that they are getting paid fuel the ire of hypercritical fans and increase the vitriol we already see on social media posts? Will there be criticism that "we're not getting our money's worth" be heard far and wide? I don't have a crystal ball but I'm not real confident that this is going to be a good thing for college sports.


I mean yeah. Don't cash the checks if you can't take the heat. This is business and results are expected. Now throw in gambling and those degenerates will really light up the workers (quit saying student-athletes).


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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Revenue sharing and on field performance
   Posted: 4/24/2025 4:38:38 PM 
MiamiBlowsChunks wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
This could have gone on football or basketball but with the upcoming football season, that seemed like the logical place to put it.

With the dawn of revenue sharing just around the corner, I'm wondering what effect directly paying players will have on fan expectations and comments. Hypothetically, let's say a player gets $10,000 and throws a couple interceptions or fumbles twice or misses a few tackles. Will the fact that they are getting paid fuel the ire of hypercritical fans and increase the vitriol we already see on social media posts? Will there be criticism that "we're not getting our money's worth" be heard far and wide? I don't have a crystal ball but I'm not real confident that this is going to be a good thing for college sports.


I mean yeah. Don't cash the checks if you can't take the heat. This is business and results are expected. Now throw in gambling and those degenerates will really light up the workers (quit saying student-athletes).


You ain’t wrong. But those degenerates were doing that before NIL.
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