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Topic: RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Marshall

Topic: RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Marshall

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greencat
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RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Marshall

Posted: 12/10/2023 11:09:55 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

bobcatsquared wrote:

If Albin's seat is getting hot according to some fans (I've never been part of that small group), shouldn't Boals' be getting at least a little balmy? In fact, could it be argued that he should be the target of more criticism than Albin?

Honestly, I've never been part of that extremely small minority of people that think Boals seat is balmy, but I would absolutely love to chuckle at someones argument.

He's 66-35 in the last three seasons with a MAC Championship and 1 NCAA Tournament W. Last season he dragged a team with NINE new players to 19 wins.

For comparison, during the same time frame Chris Holtmann at Ohio State is 64-31 also with one NCAA Tournament W.

Boals will rightfully take a some heat for failing to replace DW3, but his seat...? Since 1985, we have 4 NCAA Tournament wins. He has 1 of them.

Who else do you wanna do? Groce?

67-32... 1 MAC Championship... 0 NCAA Tournament Wins.

Senderoff?

72-29... 1 MAC Championship... 0 NCAA Tournament Wins.

Now that we've played this game, Mr. Balmy... whom do you think OU should bring in to replace Boals? Who is your current pillar of MAC supremacy you wish to use as a gauge?

Did Groce not have big dance wins over Georgetown and Michigan? I was in the second row behind the bench in Nashville when he beat Michigan. Pretty sure it happened.

GraffZ06
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RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Marshall

Posted: 12/11/2023 12:36:51 AM

greencat wrote:

Did Groce not have big dance wins over Georgetown and Michigan? I was in the second row behind the bench in Nashville when he beat Michigan. Pretty sure it happened.

X community notes say otherwise. You don't know.

I think he was just comparing over the same timeframe (i.e. last 4 seasons, not first 4 seasons in Athens).

bobcatsquared
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RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Marshall

Posted: 12/11/2023 9:56:27 AM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Now that we've played this game, Mr. Balmy... whom do you think OU should bring in to replace Boals? Who is your current pillar of MAC supremacy you wish to use as a gauge?

Why are you always so furious? A nice, thoughtful and mature response from FearLeon. Then your typical angry and immature reply. Calm down. It's OK to disagree with someone without the insults.

To be clear, I'm not calling for Boals' job, although I have had more than one PM from posters who do believe he isn't the right man for the job. I am asking what he's done to avoid the heat from some on here that are ready for Albin to be fired (and again, I am not one of those either).

M.D.W.S.T
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RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Marshall

Posted: 12/11/2023 10:36:57 AM

bobcatsquared wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Now that we've played this game, Mr. Balmy... whom do you think OU should bring in to replace Boals? Who is your current pillar of MAC supremacy you wish to use as a gauge?

I can't begin to imagine how fragile you have to be to see a simple list of Boals peers records over the same time frame and take it as "furious"(?????? lol), but when you get buried by facts and have absolutely no response, I can see how your defensive reaction and avoidance is the only response you could muster.

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RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Marshall

Posted: 12/11/2023 10:45:51 AM

greencat wrote:

Did Groce not have big dance wins over Georgetown and Michigan? I was in the second row behind the bench in Nashville when he beat Michigan. Pretty sure it happened.

I'm happy for you, truly. Maybe you should've stayed in Athens to take a reading class.

bobcatsquared
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RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Marshall

Posted: 12/11/2023 10:49:22 AM

Relax young man. Why always so angry and aggressive? It's OK to disagree with someone without replying in the manner you do. For example, see the Defiance game thread and take note of how cordial 2 people can be that might not see things the same way. Then, take a deep breath and relax.

Last Edited: 12/11/2023 10:49:38 AM by bobcatsquared

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RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Marshall

Posted: 12/11/2023 3:08:38 PM

Alan Swank wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

greencat wrote:

You can go back to the thread about the Otterbein "game" and see how there was concern about defending the dribble drive even back then. And how lack of size was allowing their 6-6 backup center to have some success against us.

It's all coming home to roost. Boals needs to have $$ saved up to go portal shopping. This no-legit-center thing is a failed experiment. While mid-major transfer big Malik Dia is averaging 16 & 6 per game. And since he transferred out of Vandy for non-academic reasons (i.e. - playing time)... my guess is he would be passing all of his classes. Probably on the dean's list.

UPDATE: Dia had 22 against MTSU last night in 24 minutes off the bench.

The three tallest guys that played for Ohio combined for 23 vs MTSU.

Somebody hasn't been evaluating the portal correctly for big guys.

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Condolences to people in the mid-state of TN who were slammed with a horrible weather event last night. A state of emergency has been declared in Clarksville where the Bobcats will be playing APSU soon.

I�m not sure if I missed it in portal thread, but did we pursue Malik Dia? If we had Myles Foster 10 points and 8 rebounds per game, this is probably a different discussion. Boals can sit here and complain about getting out-bid for a big man, but he really needed to figure it out as we all knew last spring this was going to be a massive problem. To not bring in one competent post presence is such a massive whiff.

According to this, we did.

https://247sports.com/college/vanderbilt/article/vanderbi... /

We did, and to the earlier poster, figuring it out cost $$$$, so donate today.

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RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Marshall

Posted: 12/12/2023 2:37:34 PM

In my best Forrest Gump impersonation:

That game was embarrassing. That's all I've got to say about that.

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RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Marshall

Posted: 12/13/2023 3:39:51 PM

OUcat wrote:

A few BB truisms ... and exceptions to the rule:

1) You win with guard play. This is true, a quality PG is worth his weight in gold. A solid/good PG who plays w/in his own strengths and weaknesses is solid silver. I'll take either.

1a) The exception to the rule is having a dominant offensive player at any perimeter position who can get his own any place, any time.

Fact: It's near impossible for a mid-major to get that elite gold PG, and a solid silver is hard to find as well, but doable. Dominant offensive perimeter players are just as hard to find.

2) Post players today aren't the dominant go-to players of yore like Shaq of the MAC and Brandon Hunter, especially in this league.

2a) The exception to the rule (at least so far this season) seems to be Akron and Kent State, who arguably have the two best post players in the league.

Fact: As Freeman/Akron and Payton/Kent prove (and Wilson last year) you don't have to be 6-10 to 7-foot to be a good post player. Both of those guys are 6-7ish, but know how to do their work around the basket.

THAT is where the recruiting comes in. Doesn't matter haw tall the post player is, just his ability to get his work done in the post. Even Toledo (arguably No. 3 team in the MAC) has a post presence, even if it is 6-2 Cochran.

I would argue, at this level, ... more than a PG and more than a dominant perimeter scorer, a good 'post' player may be the hardest player to recruit to this level.

The number #1 Truism is you when when you score more points! It�s really that simple.

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