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FearLeon
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  Message Not Read  The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/8/2023 7:42:30 PM 
What is going on? Not playing again and in street clothes.

Marty said Boals told him there is no timetable for him to play. Huh??

This is ridiculous at this point.

Last Edited: 11/8/2023 9:42:56 PM by FearLeon


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/8/2023 9:49:45 PM 
As much as I don’t want to speculate - part of me feels it’s academic reason (similar to Mirambeaux at Fiami) or a team disciplinary issue. But, could also be he requested to sit due to family issues or other things. We just don’t know.

Last Edited: 11/8/2023 9:50:30 PM by Cellis033


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 8:55:11 AM 
Just... is this an injury or something else?
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 9:32:21 AM 
shabamon wrote:
Just... is this an injury or something else?


Nobody is talking about it. Boals was very vague to Marty. Extremely frustrating...I think we all felt he would contribute something this season...even if it was 5 minutes a game. Here we are 3 years later coming off a redshirt and he's not even dressed for games and he looks completely healthy in street clothes.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 9:46:53 AM 
He hasn't played since March of 2022. If it's not injury related, what exactly is the plan? Is he using a scholarship? I get that these are human beings but if academics are this big of an issue, why don't we bring in somebody else?
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 10:25:01 AM 
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
He hasn't played since March of 2022. If it's not injury related, what exactly is the plan? Is he using a scholarship? I get that these are human beings but if academics are this big of an issue, why don't we bring in somebody else?


I agree. We don't know the reason, but in this era of college basketball...you can't have guys like this taking up a scholarship for three years if they aren't going to have a chance of contributing. I really hope I'm wrong here about Ezuma. It's just disappointing because in the limited time he played, I really felt like he could develop into a key contributor off the bench....especially this season with the limited talent we have down low.

But right now...with zero information...this is venturing into Lundo McDay territory of mystery. Obviously, he's on the bench...so I'm not saying he's having whatever issues that Lundo was going through.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 10:33:50 AM 
He is not at a point where he can contribute. Simple as that. Wiz is better...which says a lot.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 10:34:26 AM 
Seemed like they alluded to him being used next year with Nicol... which is just insane considering we started a 6'3" PF on purpose.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 10:54:29 AM 
SBH wrote:
He is not at a point where he can contribute. Simple as that. Wiz is better...which says a lot.


If that's the definite case then I'm shocked he's still on the roster.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 10:58:39 AM 
SBH wrote:
He is not at a point where he can contribute. Simple as that. Wiz is better...which says a lot.


That's one thing. But he's on the bench and not even dressed. Estis and Corna aren't at a point where they can contribute and they're dressed.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 11:10:01 AM 
shabamon wrote:
SBH wrote:
He is not at a point where he can contribute. Simple as that. Wiz is better...which says a lot.


That's one thing. But he's on the bench and not even dressed. Estis and Corna aren't at a point where they can contribute and they're dressed.


My gut is really telling me it's a personal issue / team disciplinary reason for some cause. Crazy, because he's always come off as a great guy on my interactions with him on campus, but also think he's slightly immature in a way. If he is hurt - wonder if it's some sort of stress fracture on the same ankle he injured last year which caused him to sit out.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 11:10:02 AM 
shabamon wrote:
SBH wrote:
He is not at a point where he can contribute. Simple as that. Wiz is better...which says a lot.


That's one thing. But he's on the bench and not even dressed. Estis and Corna aren't at a point where they can contribute and they're dressed.


OU DESPERATELY needs size and if he can't find a chance NOW... when will he ever?

He came in and played immediately as a freshman, even starting a few games, to redshirting as a sophomore... to not even being dressed as a 3rd year player on a team starting four guards...

Give up the scholarship. Let's find someone over 6'6" and get them a jersey.

Last Edited: 11/9/2023 11:10:25 AM by M.D.W.S.T

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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 11:22:25 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
shabamon wrote:
SBH wrote:
He is not at a point where he can contribute. Simple as that. Wiz is better...which says a lot.


That's one thing. But he's on the bench and not even dressed. Estis and Corna aren't at a point where they can contribute and they're dressed.


OU DESPERATELY needs size and if he can't find a chance NOW... when will he ever?

He came in and played immediately as a freshman, even starting a few games, to redshirting as a sophomore... to not even being dressed as a 3rd year player on a team starting four guards...

Give up the scholarship. Let's find someone over 6'6" and get them a jersey.


Yes, the whole offseason I've thought this needs to be a put up or shut up season for IJ, AJC, and Gabe. If you transfer in and complete your degree or by the end of your third year in the program you're not making an impact, when will you? Consider also there's a 6'10 player incoming who turned down P5 offers. Though we should not expect Ayden Evans to come in and be a superstar, if he's serviceable and has a high ceiling, he's going to play. Heck, I'd be okay with earmarking this last scholly for another big, even if more open spots come available in the offseason.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 11:30:31 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
SBH wrote:
He is not at a point where he can contribute. Simple as that. Wiz is better...which says a lot.


If that's the definite case then I'm shocked he's still on the roster.


Unless he seriously regressed, I find it hard to believe he's that far behind he can't even dress. If you're on scholarship, you need to dress, plain and simple.

If not, Boals need to help him find a better situation for him.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 11:44:33 AM 
If he's not dressed, then he's either injured or otherwise ineligible for whatever reason. If it's grades, let's hope he hit the books this Fall and will be eligible soon.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 12:03:28 PM 
Cellis033 wrote:
shabamon wrote:
SBH wrote:
He is not at a point where he can contribute. Simple as that. Wiz is better...which says a lot.


That's one thing. But he's on the bench and not even dressed. Estis and Corna aren't at a point where they can contribute and they're dressed.


My gut is really telling me it's a personal issue / team disciplinary reason for some cause.


When Boals completely sidestepped the question regarding IJ in the postgame presser, I wondered the same.



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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 12:23:03 PM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
shabamon wrote:
SBH wrote:
He is not at a point where he can contribute. Simple as that. Wiz is better...which says a lot.


That's one thing. But he's on the bench and not even dressed. Estis and Corna aren't at a point where they can contribute and they're dressed.


OU DESPERATELY needs size and if he can't find a chance NOW... when will he ever?

He came in and played immediately as a freshman, even starting a few games, to redshirting as a sophomore... to not even being dressed as a 3rd year player on a team starting four guards...

Give up the scholarship. Let's find someone over 6'6" and get them a jersey.


Exactly.

Beyond frustrating. Unless something drastically changes, this is a swing and a miss for the coaching staff. Can't be wasting scholarships on bigs who don't play when we have more than enough playing time for a big this season. If a player on scholarship can't see the floor in three years, I don't see how you can keep that player around.

Last Edited: 11/9/2023 12:25:01 PM by FearLeon


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/9/2023 3:08:20 PM 
FearLeon wrote:
. . . But right now...with zero information...this is venturing into Lundo McDay territory of mystery. Obviously, he's on the bench...so I'm not saying he's having whatever issues that Lundo was going through.


I think you might be on to something with your comparisons to Lundo. Just a hunch on my part.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/12/2023 10:22:19 PM 
We desperately need his size and athleticism inside.

Whether it's rules, academics, whatever, he needs to get his crap figured out.

Or my 18-win season projection might need adjusted down a couple games.

Complete and utter failure by the staff in terms of NIL and $$$ to land more/better bigs for this team. But hey, we will always have Kurtis Rourke and a homecoming stomping by Fiami to remember with that money instead.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/13/2023 8:34:50 AM 
GraffZ06 wrote:
We desperately need his size and athleticism inside.

Whether it's rules, academics, whatever, he needs to get his crap figured out.

Or my 18-win season projection might need adjusted down a couple games.

Complete and utter failure by the staff in terms of NIL and $$$ to land more/better bigs for this team. But hey, we will always have Kurtis Rourke and a homecoming stomping by Fiami to remember with that money instead.


I posted this in game thread. Who knows what we were able to allocate for Foster or Brown. It might have come down to paying Evans for potentially a 4 year player instead of Foster or Brown for 2 at a certain price point.

Regardless; if we wanna have a dog in the NIL fight, it’s going to take us as fans donating to the collective to support the program.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/13/2023 9:54:12 AM 
GraffZ06 wrote:
We desperately need his size and athleticism inside.

Whether it's rules, academics, whatever, he needs to get his crap figured out.

Or my 18-win season projection might need adjusted down a couple games.

Complete and utter failure by the staff in terms of NIL and $$$ to land more/better bigs for this team. But hey, we will always have Kurtis Rourke and a homecoming stomping by Fiami to remember with that money instead.


Maybe it's a complete and utter failure by some of the cheapest fans in mid-major sports?


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   Posted: 11/13/2023 11:19:55 AM 
A question about all this NIL money talk. I thought that NIL money could only be given for the use of the players name, image or likeness in some type of advertising by a third party. Now, it seems to be any money raised by anyone (including structures set up by the school itself) and paid directly to the player just to retain his or her services. If my perception is correct, then we already have players as employees, and a court would likely rule as such. Further, if true, we are now, in essence, running at least a semi-pro athletics program.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/13/2023 11:44:36 AM 
SBH wrote:
GraffZ06 wrote:
We desperately need his size and athleticism inside.

Whether it's rules, academics, whatever, he needs to get his crap figured out.

Or my 18-win season projection might need adjusted down a couple games.

Complete and utter failure by the staff in terms of NIL and $$$ to land more/better bigs for this team. But hey, we will always have Kurtis Rourke and a homecoming stomping by Fiami to remember with that money instead.


Maybe it's a complete and utter failure by some of the cheapest fans in mid-major sports?




That's distinctly possible. And if so it's on the AD and coaches to market and fundraiser better. Or it's possible we've reached donation levels that just are what they are, in which case tough decisions about football and basketball should really be made.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/13/2023 11:51:50 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
A question about all this NIL money talk. I thought that NIL money could only be given for the use of the players name, image or likeness in some type of advertising by a third party. Now, it seems to be any money raised by anyone (including structures set up by the school itself) and paid directly to the player just to retain his or her services. If my perception is correct, then we already have players as employees, and a court would likely rule as such. Further, if true, we are now, in essence, running at least a semi-pro athletics program.


It's a little of both. They are indeed paid for their name, image or likeness. The university can set up a general fund for businesses and donors to donate and provide access to the players. Now, the exchange of funds to a specific player can be as little as "put your name on a website or social media" or "show up for 15 minutes on a Saturday out of season". This is how they attempt to get around fully saying they are straight employees for the courts. I believe (correct me here if I'm wrong) that donors can either explicitly say I'm giving $X to player Y if they do Z. Or they can just donate an amount and the fund can make the player connections and distributions. This is how the pay for play for transfers comes in. You set up a NIL manager for the player (now common at all schools) and you promise them $X which is then on the manager and the fund to make good on.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Mystery That Is IJ Ezuma
   Posted: 11/13/2023 12:31:05 PM 

OhioCatFan wrote:
A question about all this NIL money talk. I thought that NIL money could only be given for the use of the players name, image or likeness in some type of advertising by a third party. Now, it seems to be any money raised by anyone (including structures set up by the school itself) and paid directly to the player just to retain his or her services. If my perception is correct, then we already have players as employees, and a court would likely rule as such. Further, if true, we are now, in essence, running at least a semi-pro athletics program. 

Well, that certainly was the spirit of the law. I belong to a group in Dayton that has ADs from Dayton, Wright St., Miami and UC speak each year. They were all in favor of true NIL. If a car dealership wanted to hire an athlete to make an appearance to help drive auto sales, then that was perfectly acceptable. But they ALL said they knew that's what this wasn't going to be. Add in the removal of sit-out year and you have free agency that has the pro sports leagues envious.

So now you have collectives raising millions of dollars and just giving to players (although players are often asked to make an appearance at charity events to legitimize the transaction). There is still true NIL. Ohio has a platform set up to allow you interact directly with athletes (INFLCR Exchange). Ohio's collective is 1804sportcollective.com. I understand that to be primarily focused on basketball but I could be wrong.

Just as the MAC has never joined the arms race in terms of facilities or coaching salaries, I don't see it being a huge player in NIL. Many schools are in small cities/towns with fanbases that can't generate meaningful money.

But the NIL money certainly changes the landscape at the Power 5 level. There was an article in today's Athletic about Pitino and the NIL at St. John's. He determined he would need around $2.3M to put together the team he wanted. So he went to about 30-40 fundraising events to get that money. Pitno said that, with NIL, St. John's is the same as Kentucky. The University of Dayton was on the verge of losing star big man DaRon Holmes. He had an offer of $1M to leave (presumably from Kansas who ended up giving Michigan's Hunter Dickinson $1M). Their collective, Dayton 6th, was able to give Holmes $500K (plus he had true NIL deals) and that was enough to get him to stay.

Many of the ADs feel you have to play the game right now to the extent you can. Although they all believe it will moderate. At some point, people will want ROI from NIL. Plus, universities will start trying to pull back donor dollars into their coffers vs it going to the players. At least in the very short-term, conference realignment and massive player movement doesn't seem to impact the popularity of college athletics. But you start to wonder about its future.


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